re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Actually I can see the SCOTUS or whoever ruling in favor of Trump on the emergency. Congress gave the president the power to declare emergencies based on an extremely vague set of guidelines. If congress is unhappy with that, they should repeal or change the law.
re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by Koss
No it doesnt. It just gives deplorables an opportunity to spike the football, but ultimately affects nothing.
People use stories like that to delegitimize real ones and it becomes a problem; see: every rape ever because one or two girls made up a story about being raped.
re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
People use stories like that to delegitimize real ones and it becomes a problem; see: every rape ever because one or two girls made up a story about being raped.
re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
It shouldn't be made a big deal over. Idgaf what people say on 2p2. That doesn't matter. But no elected officials or pundits should be writing editorials about how bad this dude is and how it delegitimizes the legitimate. Normally I'd assume that the difference between posting on 2p2 and writing editorials for the NYT is obvious, but some people around here can't tell.
re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
lol silence is golden
Can't tell if sarcastic, but it's not inherently a big story. It's a tabloid piece. There's no reason to make a big deal about it and the derposphere will not congratulate anyone on their honesty and reconsider whether or not the MAGAs are all sweet, lovable people.
re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Pence strikes me as a man who hasn't actually thought about anything his entire life. Everything he does or believes in comes from the bible, his political party or what is popular in his socio-ethnic group.
re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
Actually I can see the SCOTUS or whoever ruling in favor of Trump on the emergency. Congress gave the president the power to declare emergencies based on an extremely vague set of guidelines. If congress is unhappy with that, they should repeal or change the law.
Harry Truman tried to head off an imminent strike by the steel industry by calling a national emergency. Under that emergency, the government could nationalize the steel industry and force them back to work. Truman claimed that it was necessary for them to work as national defense would be weakened without steel being produced. This attempt at seizing private steel companies was declared unconstitutional in a 6-3 vote.
The rules for national emergency might be vague but there is precedent for stopping them if they are being exploited in order to perform unconstitutional actions.
re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Harry Truman tried to head off an imminent strike by the steel industry by calling a national emergency. Under that emergency, the government could nationalize the steel industry and force them back to work. Truman claimed that it was necessary for them to work as national defense would be weakened without steel being produced. This attempt at seizing private steel companies was declared unconstitutional in a 6-3 vote.
The rules for national emergency might be vague but there is precedent for stopping them if they are being exploited in order to perform unconstitutional actions.
re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
the UN laughingstock incident was great too, i still think fondly on it. but trump's a narcissist who convinced himself that they were laughing with him. stone silence while he's standing there waiting for an applause break is downright coldblooded. there is no greater feeling of doom for a public speaker than stone cold silence when you expect a reaction.
re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
People use stories like that to delegitimize real ones and it becomes a problem; see: every rape ever because one or two girls made up a story about being raped.
Those people didnt need a false accusation to delegitimize a real assault. Will they use it as an example? Of course. But they never cared about actual victims in the first place.
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You could tell in the moment he knew it was at him. And with all the stupid things trump has said in his life im sure he is used to dead silence as a response. Either ones good though. There should be much more of that.