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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter

02-16-2019 , 09:58 AM
Yeah, yesterday, MSNBC said Republicans are divided about the President's declaration of a national emergency, but first, here's a Democrats in disarray story about creeping Socialism. ****ing mother****ers.

Also ANN COULTER = A LONER ****
02-16-2019 , 10:09 AM
Top notch grifters Diamond and Silk. Respect.

02-16-2019 , 11:13 AM
Diamond & Silk call themselves Diamond & Silk but they're not made of Diamond & Silk.
Chessmate
02-16-2019 , 11:46 AM
What’s the female version of an Uncle Tom?

Asking for a friend
02-16-2019 , 11:48 AM
Aunt Jemima
02-16-2019 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
Aunt Jemima


So good.
02-16-2019 , 12:34 PM
I've been thinking about this national emergency declaration and the House's ability to start the 18 day clock on the Senate to vote on the termination. Are there any downsides to the House doing so? Like some hidden Judicial gotcha later on where this particular national emergency declaration threads the needle and 5-4s through a non precedent setting ruling, and then if a Democratic president declares climate change a national emergency and the judiciary points to democratic opposition to again 5-4 the other way on it?

I'm trying to think through all the permutations of Democratic opposition to this, it seems like a multi-pronged approach(courts, legislative, court of public opinion) is correct, but I feel like given the setup of the country there is a gotcha I'm not seeing.

Thanks for thoughtful replies!
02-16-2019 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
What’s the female version of an Uncle Tom?

Asking for a friend
Michelle Wolf already answered that one, Aunt Coulter.
02-16-2019 , 12:44 PM

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02-16-2019 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
The Supreme Court would never endorse suspending elections as some in this thread are suggesting.
I'm suggesting that Trump would try it, NOT that the Supreme Court would uphold it... But if he declares a national emergency and suspends elections or throws out the results, regardless of how SCOTUS rules, I think there will be widespread unrest. We're too divided and both sides are too convinced of their ownership of facts.

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Originally Posted by fatkid
Top notch grifters Diamond and Silk. Respect.

No Americans can be against the wall, because we all live in houses and rooms with walls. Only homeless people can oppose the wall.

And they're presumably getting rich for this ****?
02-16-2019 , 01:17 PM
02-16-2019 , 01:57 PM
If Trump/GOP intentionally throw the case and scotus rules they can't declare a national emergency, is this the only high profile intelligent thing the trump presidency has done?

It gets them everything they actually want, they don't even need to waste money on the wall they get just talk about it which is just as effective in controlling immigration. The wall could be their next roe v wade for next couple decades if they just ensure it is never actually built.
02-16-2019 , 02:05 PM
There is no strategy beyond


Chaos



To take eyes off of

Treason


For a little while
02-16-2019 , 02:40 PM
Yep; stop saying trump has strategy; he doesn’t

He is tactical and just does whatever he think wins in that moment
02-16-2019 , 02:52 PM
Hillary vs Trump was like when good players complain they can't win in play money games on PokerStars-- it's hard for smart people to deal with opponents that don't think at all.

Trump runs at zero level thinking 90% of the time, and negative level thinking the remaining 10%.
02-16-2019 , 02:53 PM
Edit. Whoops. Wrong thread.
02-16-2019 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
If Trump/GOP intentionally throw the case and scotus rules they can't declare a national emergency, is this the only high profile intelligent thing the trump presidency has done?

It gets them everything they actually want, they don't even need to waste money on the wall they get just talk about it which is just as effective in controlling immigration. The wall could be their next roe v wade for next couple decades if they just ensure it is never actually built.
How about the democrats pick the least favourable court and lose and appeal so they get to the Supreme Court and if the Republican majority court rules in Trumps favour now they have the right to do the same.

Plus all those Republican states that are going to lose those $$$ for military construction projects that are approved are going to be pissed
02-16-2019 , 02:58 PM
If the SCOTUS rules in favour of Trump, 99% chance it will be narrowly tailored to this specific situation so if the Dems try it for a liberal cause, it will get insta-struck down.
02-16-2019 , 03:05 PM
Won’t need SC on our side in a few decades when Miami is underwater to get Climate Change to be taken seriously

Of course, by that point, the pain and cost of dealing with it will be 134884747x worse
02-16-2019 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Feldman
Hillary vs Trump was like when good players complain they can't win in play money games on PokerStars-- it's hard for smart people to deal with opponents that don't think at all.

Trump runs at zero level thinking 90% of the time, and negative level thinking the remaining 10%.
lol swing and a miss, the nonthinking opponents are the best kind

anybody who claims to hate or have trouble playing vs them is categorically horrible at poker (and, fittingly, hillary is categorically horrible at politics)
02-16-2019 , 03:20 PM
Bill Shine's wife, in anti-vaccine rant, says "bring back our childhood diseases"


https://twitter.com/DarlaShine/statu...80122194182144

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Shine’s tweets made the rounds as a grim report emerged from Madagascar: More than 900 children and young adults have died from measles over the past four months, Reuters reported.
02-16-2019 , 03:32 PM
Hillary should've moved up to where they respected her arguments.
02-16-2019 , 03:41 PM

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02-16-2019 , 03:43 PM
He's all out of material?
02-16-2019 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
That's the great thing about Twitter. Any ****wit with fingers can ramble on about **** they know nothing about.

Measles is BAD - I was doing my peds rotation at Childrens in Chicago when we had an outbreak (Ethiopean refugees) and a bunch of kids ended up in the ICU - can't remember if any died.

Also had a pregnant woman check in at 6p, intubated at 7p dead at 9p due to chickenpox pneumonia - pregnant women have some degree of immune dysfunction for physiologic reasons and can die kind of dramatically.

The mumps in kids is mostly an annoyance - in adults, not so much. Men get a charming condition called orchitis, where your testicles swell up like cantaloupes and hurt like hell. No thanks.

As usual with this stuff, there's a tiny bit of possible relevance buried in the bull**** - there's pretty good evidence that a lot of childhood disease (asthma/eczema/reactive airway disease) is related to little Bobby staring at his smartphone all day instead of eating dirt/getting grubby/screwing around outside like kids have always done until about 30 years or so ago. But that has NOTHING to do with immunizations.

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