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Old 02-15-2019, 09:27 PM   #8001
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Moar like An Culter, amirite?
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:56 PM   #8002
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So...if the courts approve his emergency that means that the president can do basically anything they want unless Congress has a veto proof majority to stop them? Looks like we'll be getting that green new deal via the climate emergency declared by President Harris. Then we'll get gun control via the shooting emergency, and we can finally restore voting rights to people via the electoral emergency.

So I think we can trade 1 wall for all of that stuff. Trump really does have the art of the deal.
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:01 PM   #8003
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TIL about the Gish Gallop, and Trump has mastered it

https://speakingofresearch.com/2012/09/11/gish-gallop/
Trump has been doing this since he started his campaign. It's why it's impossible to speak to deplorables about politics. They act exactly the way he does.

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So...if the courts approve his emergency that means that the president can do basically anything they want unless Congress has a veto proof majority to stop them? Looks like we'll be getting that green new deal via the climate emergency declared by President Harris. Then we'll get gun control via the shooting emergency, and we can finally restore voting rights to people via the electoral emergency.

So I think we can trade 1 wall for all of that stuff. Trump really does have the art of the deal.
That'll never happen.

If this national emergency goes through, there won't be another POTUS for a long time. Trump will call voter fraud a national emergency and delay/cancel elections in 2020 so he can remain POTUS indefinitely.

If SCOTUS allows this national emergency, it's time to GTFO.
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:02 PM   #8004
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So...if the courts approve his emergency that means that the president can do basically anything they want unless Congress has a veto proof majority to stop them? Looks like we'll be getting that green new deal via the climate emergency declared by President Harris. Then we'll get gun control via the shooting emergency, and we can finally restore voting rights to people via the electoral emergency.

So I think we can trade 1 wall for all of that stuff. Trump really does have the art of the deal.
Lol one can wish, but realistically no single dem will ever 'abuse' this power. Instead they will say some stuff to heal the country, bla bla bla.

The dems suck so hard by trying to play nice instead of trying to fix the mess the repubs have been making for the last 40+ years.
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:05 PM   #8005
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...the other possibility is that the courts will approve the emergency, but on some bull**** narrow reasoning that doesn't set a precedent. Like with what the SCOTUS did in the 2000 election. I forget specifically how they did it but it was basically worded like "these specific circumstances only apply to this one case and you can't use it as a precedent for future cases."
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:08 PM   #8006
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GOP elite types, which includes Roberts and Alito, don’t care about the wall at all.

They care about money, money, abortion (for the rubes), and money.
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:31 PM   #8007
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Probably not what youíd call famous, but as a game show nerd, I know that the biggest winner in the history of Tic Tac Dough was named Thom McKee.
Thats a deeeeeeeeep pull
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:31 PM   #8008
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GOP elite types, which includes Roberts and Alito, don’t care about the wall at all.

They care about money, money, abortion (for the rubes), and money.
And white supremacy. They definitely don't want to see a brown nation where everyone has an equal vote.
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:32 PM   #8009
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My dad is a trumpkin. He was talking to another trumpkin today about how bad and rambling Trump was at the presser. I haven't seen any of it yet, but maybe we just need to play that thing 24/7 to break some of the spell.
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:37 PM   #8010
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Lol one can wish, but realistically no single dem will ever 'abuse' this power. Instead they will say some stuff to heal the country, bla bla bla.

The dems suck so hard by trying to play nice instead of trying to fix the mess the repubs have been making for the last 40+ years.
Ill abuse it. Master3004 2020!
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:55 PM   #8011
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Even if dems try it, the Supreme Court wont allow it.
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:00 AM   #8012
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So...if the courts approve his emergency that means that the president can do basically anything they want unless Congress has a veto proof majority to stop them? Looks like we'll be getting that green new deal via the climate emergency declared by President Harris. Then we'll get gun control via the shooting emergency, and we can finally restore voting rights to people via the electoral emergency.

So I think we can trade 1 wall for all of that stuff. Trump really does have the art of the deal.
Lol if you think this SC letís this president have his emergency, it will let a democratic president do the same thing for a green new deal.
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:01 AM   #8013
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Dems will obv expand the court to give themselves a majority first
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:52 AM   #8014
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I only watched a bit of the rambling speech but the highlight was Trump saying that we give drug dealers fines and don't send them to jail and then something about giving them the death penalty.
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Old 02-16-2019, 01:06 AM   #8015
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Watching more now...

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Old 02-16-2019, 01:22 AM   #8016
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Dems will obv expand the court to give themselves a majority first
Expand court via national emergency then have the new court vote on the constitutionality of it.
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Old 02-16-2019, 02:23 AM   #8017
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I feel like had someone asked a question about it, Trump would have totally endorsed Duterte style roving vigilante death squads on the hunt for Drug Dealers. Coming to A&E Tuesdays at 9 Eastern 8 Central!




That rose garden speech. How politically smart trump supporters dont see the danger idk.
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Old 02-16-2019, 02:34 AM   #8018
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That rose garden speech. How politically smart trump supporters dont see the danger idk.
The way he's going or maybe even if Jr gets it, I thought it was stupid but there is a chance he declares the next election void & calls the Dems a criminal organisation.
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Old 02-16-2019, 02:44 AM   #8019
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Expand court via national emergency then have the new court vote on the constitutionality of it.
And then watch as the new court rejects the emergencies citing centrist sensibility and a need to reach across the bench.
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Old 02-16-2019, 03:01 AM   #8020
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The way he's going or maybe even if Jr gets it, I thought it was stupid but there is a chance he declares the next election void & calls the Dems a criminal organisation.
Honestly, at this point I think I'd be more surprised by Trump accepting the result of an election in which he loses the presidency than by him trying to abuse his power to stay in office.
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Old 02-16-2019, 04:36 AM   #8021
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Honestly, at this point I think I'd be more surprised by Trump accepting the result of an election in which he loses the presidency than by him trying to abuse his power to stay in office.
And on top of all the other reasons he'll have a decent shot at criminal convictions in NY State (Pence can't save him) if he loses.
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Old 02-16-2019, 04:48 AM   #8022
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You guys really gotta watch that speech from today if you havent. Itís truly incredible, even for him. Completely and totally incoherent, like something was actually wrong with him or he was high.
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Old 02-16-2019, 04:51 AM   #8023
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to the youtube machine!

HE TALKED NON STOP FOR 50 MINUTES?!?!?!
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Old 02-16-2019, 05:28 AM   #8024
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My dad is a trumpkin. He was talking to another trumpkin today about how bad and rambling Trump was at the presser. I haven't seen any of it yet, but maybe we just need to play that thing 24/7 to break some of the spell.
That might work for a few minutes, but only until they pop in their AOL disc and start scrolling through their email stories about Hillary buying Uranium emails from the Benghazi M-13s.

Then they just go put on their MAGA hats again.
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:25 AM   #8025
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to the youtube machine!

HE TALKED NON STOP FOR 50 MINUTES?!?!?!
I happened to be driving. I wouldnt recommend just sitting down and wasting an hour. it was crazy ofc. but some of his press conferences were just as bad.

parroting the chinese accent was great tho.
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