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Old 02-14-2019, 04:29 PM   #7701
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

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M4A and GND get enacted by fiat when a Dem occupies the White House next?
Let's be honest, we all know this is never happening.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:30 PM   #7702
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President Harris:

"While a national health care system that benefits all Americans is critically important, we must only do so in a bipartisan manner. We cannot stoop to the level of those that seek to oppose us."

In 2024, President Junior:

"EMERGENCY: OPEN SEASON ON ALL ANIMALS! HUNT MURDER KILL!"
lol so true
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:32 PM   #7703
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Kinda weird that Mitch would announce that publicly.

I would have thought Trump would want to save the huge announcement for himself.
Probably afraid he'd talk to Hannity and change his mind again before making any announcement.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:33 PM   #7704
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Kinda weird that Mitch would announce that publicly.

I would have thought Trump would want to save the huge announcement for himself.
I think it serves two purposes: It takes (some of) the inevitable heat off Trump by openly OKing it on the Senate floor, and it signals the rest of the GOP to stfu and get in line.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:34 PM   #7705
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Prediction (not-so-bold):

Trum signs the deal at the last minute to avert another government shutdown, trying to claim hero status. He actually doesn't want a return of his historically-low approval ratings.

Then, he will declare a national emergency to 'fund the shortfall created by the evil Dems who cut needed money from his Wall budget.'
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:35 PM   #7706
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F5ing Marco Rubio's feed furiously, the flip flop is coming I feel it
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:36 PM   #7707
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What the heck is McCabe up to? His timing sucks to be talking about 25th and FBI reaction to Comey firing.
He's selling a book, dude.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:39 PM   #7708
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Prediction (not-so-bold):

Trum signs the deal at the last minute to avert another government shutdown, trying to claim hero status. He actually doesn't want a return of his historically-low approval ratings.

Then, he will declare a national emergency to 'fund the shortfall created by the evil Dems who cut needed money from his Wall budget.'
They're going to raid disaster relief and military housing money to pay for the "emergency".
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The plan is to use executive powers to redirect money set aside for two Army Corps of Engineers flood control projects in California, as well as relief funds for that state and for the U.S. commonwealth of Puerto Rico, toward the wall. The plan would also use unspent Defense Department funds intended for constructing housing for military families and military base infrastructure to fund the wall.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:43 PM   #7709
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I'm Jewish. Went to Sunday school, Hebrew school, had a Bar Mitzvah, my grandfather was president of our synagogue (and taught Sunday school before I was born - Bud Selig was a student of his), etc.

I send my kids to Sunday school and Hebrew school and they will have Bar/Bat Mitzvahs (save the dates just went out for one of them), but at the same time, none of us really believe in god/religion. We're probably going to let our kids stop going to religious school after their Bar/Bat Mitzvahs. My son bought into the whole god thing initially, but he pretty quickly decided it didn't make sense.

It's kind of dumb, I know. I guess, like a lot of things we do in life, we're kind of doing it as an obligation, partly to not piss off our parents, partly because...I don't know. Judiasm is a bit different, as there is very much a cultural/community part that is separate from the religious part. And the nice thing is that my wife, whose family was completely unpracticing, has really enjoyed the community aspect of joining a synagogue. I really like our rabbi, too. Just chatted with him yesterday. And I appreciate our synagogue - it's extremely welcoming. It's even expressly pro-LGBTQ - there used to be something on the website about it, but I can't find it now. I know there's a flier about LGBTQ issues posted in the hallway at temple.
So much this. Judaism is much more about culture and being inclusive. I was raised that way and had the obligation Bar Mitzvah.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:44 PM   #7710
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

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Prediction (not-so-bold):

Trum signs the deal at the last minute to avert another government shutdown, trying to claim hero status. He actually doesn't want a return of his historically-low approval ratings.

Then, he will declare a national emergency to 'fund the shortfall created by the evil Dems who cut needed money from his Wall budget.'
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Trump 'to declare emergency' over wall
Is a 'breaking news' headline on the BBC. Usually these are accurate

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47247726
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:45 PM   #7711
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Oh, so he takes the money from 'wasteful, liberal, heavily-Hispanic' California to show his base how tough he is?
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:46 PM   #7712
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M4A and GND get enacted by fiat when a Dem occupies the White House next?
State of emergency gun buyback program. Have illegals killed 30K people this year? Nope, but guns sure as **** have. I know which one is more of an emergency in my eyes.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:48 PM   #7713
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You sound like a very cool dad.
Thanks man, I try. I am by no means a great dad or even a vrry good dad, but I have high standards and I try. Spend time with them and try to nurture their interests, you know?

I mean, I do help him with his Fortnite battle pass challenges even though I truly suck at it.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:48 PM   #7714
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Is a 'breaking news' headline on the BBC. Usually these are accurate

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47247726

It's not really earth-shattering. It's the smart thing to do in his position. His previous attemtp to attribute blame solely on the Dems didn't go over at all. It would be worse when there is a public BIPARTISAN deal on the table.

Him flexing his muscles on the executive power thing is unfortunate. It sets a horrible precedent.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:50 PM   #7715
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They're going to raid disaster relief and military housing money to pay for the "emergency".
Fiscally raping the state that makes you an economic power to own the libs
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:51 PM   #7716
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It's not really earth-shattering. It's the smart thing to do in his position. His previous attemtp to attribute blame solely on the Dems didn't go over at all. It would be worse when there is a public BIPARTISAN deal on the table.

Him flexing his muscles on the executive power thing is unfortunate. It sets a horrible precedent.
Agreed and hopefully it will be shut down by the courts.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:04 PM   #7717
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Hot take (maybe?): King Don will get a polling bump for this of around 2-3 points.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:04 PM   #7718
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He's doing it to save face. "Well folks I did everything I could but the evil dems stopped me. So make sure you GO AND VOTE in 2020 to FINISH THE WALL."
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:05 PM   #7719
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Emergency declaration is less popular than the wall itself. It has lower approval than Trump sank to just before he caved on the shutdown. McConnell doesn't like it, he just used it to avoid a shutdown because that'd be worse for the party. This is what Trump feels compelled to do to avoid an immediate collapse of support.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:07 PM   #7720
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cp is adorable right now. They really think the NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!! thing is really going to give them their wall.

People will fall for the same tricks over and over. All of these Trumpers who got pissed about their tax returns are going to 100% believe him the next time he promises them a tax cut and some magic beans.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:10 PM   #7721
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President Harris:

"While a national health care system that benefits all Americans is critically important, we must only do so in a bipartisan manner. We cannot stoop to the level of those that seek to oppose us."

In 2024, President Junior:

"EMERGENCY: OPEN SEASON ON ALL ANIMALS! HUNT MURDER KILL!"
Yep. We need to step on throats now at every opportunity.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:14 PM   #7722
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Emergency declaration is less popular than the wall itself. It has lower approval than Trump sank to just before he caved on the shutdown. McConnell doesn't like it, he just used it to avoid a shutdown because that'd be worse for the party. This is what Trump feels compelled to do to avoid an immediate collapse of support.
But Trump has already lost any support he was going to lose from his left. He'll gain back some hardcore deplorables who got mad that he caved on the shutdown, and possibly some "moderates" who are sick of hearing about the wall and shutdown, don't care much either way, but will be glad someone "took leadership" and just got it over with. These will almost all be middle class/upper class white men, of course.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:14 PM   #7723
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Hot take (maybe?): King Don will get a polling bump for this of around 2-3 points.
Probably, Gallup has him up to 44% for I guess not whipping out his dick during his SOTU speech
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:20 PM   #7724
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If he declares an emergency it's also going to put republicans in a tough spot politically. McConnell can put the GND up for a vote to embarrass Dems and the Dems can pass a resolution in the house to rescend the emergency in the house. Because it's considered a privileged resolution the senate is required to vote on it within 18 days. And it will put the GOP in a spot where they have to declare loyalty to Trump or to their supposed convictions.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:34 PM   #7725
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At this point, if he doesn't dominate the news cycle with some specific asshattery for 72 hours or so his approval jumps just because people are happy not to have been thinking about him as much for a few days. It's like banging your head against a wall because it feels so good when you stop.
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