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01-03-2019 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
wow wow wow trumpkins level of "not voting for warren" just went up a nano or two. awesome attack!


Warren 2020, mother****ers
actually makes me want to vote for her
01-03-2019 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by realDonaldTrump

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The hilarious part about this is the WH sent the Examiner the list of his accomplishments and Trump is now sharing it as if he had no hand in this.
01-03-2019 , 01:50 PM
Warren for prez to trigger the deplorables?
01-03-2019 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
This is just plain stupid. You either don’t understand trumpism or know nothing about American political history.
Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign in the town that was celebrating the lynching of Emmett Till. Totes coincidence though.
01-03-2019 , 01:56 PM
Someone explain to me why the Dems adopting PAYGO is a good thing for the Dems specifically? Even if in theory it's good for the fiscal health of the country, GOP can't raise taxes because Grover Norquist, so it seems to me like the only option to get anything passed spending-wise will be to cut spending elsewhere, and GOP won't cut military spending ever because FREEDOM etc.
01-03-2019 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign in the town that was celebrating the lynching of Emmett Till. Totes coincidence though.
It was in Philadelphia, Mississippi where these people were murdered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder..._and_Schwerner
01-03-2019 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Someone explain to me why the Dems adopting PAYGO is a good thing for the Dems specifically? Even if in theory it's good for the fiscal health of the country, GOP can't raise taxes because Grover Norquist, so it seems to me like the only option to get anything passed spending-wise will be to cut spending elsewhere, and GOP won't cut military spending ever because FREEDOM etc.
It doesn't matter. They can waive it on specific bills which they would do if they needed to. But the Democrats won't actually be passing any bills that will get signed into law so the whole point is moot. I don't know why anyone cares about this.
01-03-2019 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
I honestly don’t think I do. Trumpism has little to nothing to do with policy. Look at the hundreds of things that used to be hardcore GOP policy they have instantly abondoned due to Trumpism (e.g., russia and free trade).

Trumpism is about gaslighting, lying, personal attacks, shouting, anti-intellectualism, content-free arguments and a world where we all get our own facts.

These are the hallmarks of every single rep post.
FFS, man. We went over this months ago. Trumpkin has a meaning that everyone has agreed to. One of the critical elements is that a Trumpkin is a supporter of Trump. You can't wish that away. That's reality.

So while some posters may use the same persuasive techniques Trump and his supporters might use, if those posters hate Trump, then they, by definition, can't be Trumpkins.

It's really not that ****ing hard.
01-03-2019 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
It doesn't matter. They can waive it on specific bills which they would do if they needed to. But the Democrats won't actually be passing any bills that will get signed into law so the whole point is moot. I don't know why anyone cares about this.
From what I gleaned from Twitter the upside to PAYGO is that it gets rid of the stupid "OMG we can't possibly raise the debt ceiling!!" bull**** so it removes that tool from the R arsenal.
01-03-2019 , 02:09 PM
Does this passing of PAYGO expire in two years? If so it's totally fine, if not it's possibly a big strategic mistake...

In other news, I took the discount on AAPL... Didn't realize until I checked, it's down a whopping ~40% from its October peak. Thanks, Obama!

Disclaimer: my track record trading is awful, and I only buy-and-hold. I think AAPL is good in the mid-term (~five years), but I don't love it long term. Couldn't pass on such a big discount that is related to fundamentals that I think will shift massively in two years unless we descend into authoritarian rule, in which case I probably won't give a **** about my portfolio.
01-03-2019 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
Warren for prez to trigger the deplorables?
The asymmetry is remarkable. Triggering the libs is consequence-free except for some words of elitist disapproval, maybe. Can't piss off the right though-- they're *******s with guns.
01-03-2019 , 02:11 PM
The idea that the real problem with Trump is that he's a loud-mouthed idiot who blows chunks of adderal boogers all over everyone, tweets awful things, and is radically ignorant being what is worst about him and what makes him a right-winger is a wrong and dangerous take. His values are "I get mine. **** you. Especially if you can't do anything for me." That's the problem and he shares it with almost all the GOP and probably a narrow majority of the Dems.
01-03-2019 , 02:13 PM
I know no-one really cares, but I'm pretty sure that white thing came out of Trump's mouth and was a fleck of spittle.
01-03-2019 , 02:14 PM
that's true micro and actually his loud mouthed idiotness blowing chunks of adderall boogers all over everyone, tweeting awful things, and radical ignorance is the primary driver of the dysfunction that is hamstringing the GOP from doing insidious stuff they really want to do and keeping a low profile about it. so they're really his best qualities.
01-03-2019 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WichitaDM
Ya that tweet is exactly why Warren can't be the nominee.
Because of stuff other people made up about her?
01-03-2019 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
FFS, man. We went over this months ago. Trumpkin has a meaning that everyone has agreed to. One of the critical elements is that a Trumpkin is a supporter of Trump. You can't wish that away. That's reality.

So while some posters may use the same persuasive techniques Trump and his supporters might use, if those posters hate Trump, then they, by definition, can't be Trumpkins.

It's really not that ****ing hard.
I’m differentiating a trumpkin from trumpism, but your point is fair. To be honest, I’m also using it because of how much it bothers them.
01-03-2019 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Does this passing of PAYGO expire in two years? If so it's totally fine, if not it's possibly a big strategic mistake...
This is my concern. In a world where Things Matter, it gives the opposition a huge mallet to hit them over the head with every time they want to try to raise revenues or increase spending for things like Medicare for all, with the added downside of not getting anything passed anyway because Senate.
01-03-2019 , 02:21 PM
This is how it always works in the US. Republicans rack up massive debt and then Dems have to clean it up. The genius is the GOP have convinced huge swaths of America it’s the reverse.
01-03-2019 , 02:22 PM
Paul Whelen's own attorney said this:

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“This is a long process,” Mr. Zherebenkov said. “I myself hope that we can rescue and bring home one Russian soul.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/w...an-russia.html
01-03-2019 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
I’m differentiating a trumpkin from trumpism, but your point is fair. To be honest, I’m also using it because of how much it bothers them.


My god he can't be stopped.
01-03-2019 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign in the town that was celebrating the lynching of Emmett Till. Totes coincidence though.

It’s almost like all you have to do to win the hearts and nomination of the deplorables is to start your campaign with a loud racist signal
01-03-2019 , 02:29 PM
PAYGO is ****ing terrible and another example of how much centrist Dems blow chunks and are subservient to trying to appeal to the mythical moderate Republican.
01-03-2019 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
I know no-one really cares, but I'm pretty sure that white thing came out of Trump's mouth and was a fleck of spittle.
It's getting the Zapruder film treatment on twitter. You're probably right.


https://twitter.com/PennsyltuckyJCA/...77073449869313
01-03-2019 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
I know no-one really cares, but I'm pretty sure that white thing came out of Trump's mouth and was a fleck of spittle.
I think he made a spitwad from a piece of one of the documents in front of him and shoved it up his nose like a paste-eating 4yo.

      
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