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02-01-2019, 05:57 PM
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#6226
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Revisionist Historian
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Obstruct Everything
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic
in honor of Black History Month:
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Welp. Time for him to go.
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02-01-2019, 06:23 PM
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#6227
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The Situation
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: can never leave
Posts: 4,890
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by thethethe
I'm not sure it ever ended...
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Arguably correct. I could see it either way.
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02-01-2019, 06:24 PM
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#6228
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More Like RunyonBlvd
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Getting dunked on
Posts: 6,085
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
And there's a D after his name
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02-01-2019, 07:42 PM
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#6229
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veteran
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,535
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by econophile
more like epcslow amirite?
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Every pony counts.
Every pony.
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02-01-2019, 08:34 PM
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#6231
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Solar Powered
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 54,383
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
Great reference. But we did win the last one, I guess officially in 1989.
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Breakup of the Soviet Union is magic. It broke up because lol communism or because of Saint Ronnie's arms race, whatever sounds better at the time.
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02-01-2019, 08:36 PM
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#6232
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Solar Powered
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 54,383
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Racing to see who can blow up the world 1000 times over first? Or racing to see who can send more public money to the war industry faster?
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02-01-2019, 09:06 PM
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#6233
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veteran
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: The Green Baize
Posts: 2,969
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Jack Dorsey is on Jr podcast Live...
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02-01-2019, 09:19 PM
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#6234
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For President
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: DO NOT CONGRATULATE
Posts: 33,241
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
McConnell privately cautions Trump about emergency declaration on border wallMcConnell (R-Ky.) told Trump that Congress might end up passing a resolution disapproving the emergency declaration, the people said — which would force the president to contemplate issuing his first veto ever, in the face of opposition from his own party.
McConnell delivered the message during a face-to-face meeting with the president Tuesday at the White House, according to the Republicans, who requested anonymity to describe the encounter. The two men met alone and conversed with no aides present. Their meeting was not publicly announced.
The majority leader’s comments to the president came amid rising GOP concerns over the fallout if Trump were to declare a national emergency that would allow him to circumvent Congress and use the military to build new stretches of wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. Trump increasingly appears prepared to take that route, saying Friday that “I think there’s a good chance we’ll have to do that.”
Trump teased the possibility of making a definitive statement on the topic during his State of the Union address, telling reporters to watch the Tuesday speech closely. “I think you’ll find it very exciting,” the president said.
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Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.), a top McConnell confidant, said this week that he is opposed to a national emergency declaration, in part because of what it might embolden a future Democratic president to do.
“We’ve certainly tried to communicate that to him,” said Cornyn, referring to Trump. “And so, he understands our concerns as we’ve expressed them. But I don’t know if he shares those same concerns.”
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02-01-2019, 09:39 PM
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#6235
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,927
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
I don't see why Trump is worried. If he declares the emergency, it will get tied up in the courts and he will tell his base he did everything he could to get the wall built. They will believe him. If he doesn't then he can just gaslight them about how the wall is getting built. They will believe him either way.
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02-01-2019, 11:08 PM
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#6236
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For President
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: DO NOT CONGRATULATE
Posts: 33,241
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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02-01-2019, 11:34 PM
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#6237
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,098
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Sanctioned Venezuela Oil Firm Gave $500,000 to Trump’s Inauguration—And Is in Debt to Moscow"In its latest push for regime change in Venezuela, the White House on Monday slapped
sanctions on the regime’s state-owned oil firm, Petroleos de Venezuela.
To lift the sanctions, according to Mnuchin, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro must
transfer power to opposition leader Juan Guaidó. With the backing of the international community, Guaidó named himself the country’s interim president last week—creating a standoff between the United States and the current Venezuelan regime.
When asked on Monday whether President Donald Trump was considering sending military forces to facilitate the regime change in the region, National Security Advisor John Bolton replied that “all options are on the table.”
In announcing the sanctions, Mnuchin called PdVSA “a vehicle for embezzlement” for the Maduro regime. The state company, however, has also been a vehicle to funnel donations into the president’s political operations. According to a Federal Election Commission (FEC) report last year, Citgo Petroleum—an American subsidiary of PdVSA—donated $500,000 to Trump’s inauguration ceremonies.
A month before Trump assumed power, the Venezuelan government also gave the Russian owned company Rosneft 49.9 percent of Citgo’s shares for a $1.5 billion loan."
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02-01-2019, 11:53 PM
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#6238
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 10,018
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
TIL a governor of Virginia can serve as many terms as they want, but not consecutively?? What a weird quirk.
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That is weird, but at first glance I kind of like it. Let me digest it for a little while.
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02-02-2019, 12:26 AM
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#6239
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 26,934
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
There’s that company again.
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02-02-2019, 12:31 AM
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#6240
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: L.H.O.O.Q.
Posts: 14,609
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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02-02-2019, 01:17 AM
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#6241
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For President
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: DO NOT CONGRATULATE
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
John Christy Was Just Named An EPA Science Adviser. His Climate Studies Have Been Repeatedly Corrected.A climate science skeptic with a history of botched research is the latest controversial addition to the Environmental Protection Agency’s Scientific Advisory Board.
John Christy, a climate scientist from the University of Alabama, Huntsville, was one of eight people added on Thursday to the panel, which provides scientific advice to the EPA’s director. Another 21 experts, many drawn from industry and state agencies, were also added to related advisory committees.
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“I’m skeptical of the conclusions that can be drawn from climate models,” Christy told BuzzFeed News. “I think there is a rush to judgment that every time something happens it’s because of global warming.”
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In congressional testimony on climate change, Christy has touted his own estimates of atmospheric temperatures despite his record of mistakes, drawing complaints of “political grandstanding” from NASA climate scientist Gavin Schmidt in a 2016 analysis finding distortions in the data that Christy presented to lawmakers.
By phone, Christy dismissed past corrections of his team’s temperature estimates as “talking about things from 10 years ago.”
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“He has made many statements before Congress and elsewhere that are at odds with the scientific evidence because of his personal value system. He is not an appropriate appointee for this advisory panel, unfortunately,” said Kevin Trenberth, a distinguished senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research who was one of Christy’s graduate school supervisors.
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02-02-2019, 02:00 AM
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#6242
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For President
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: DO NOT CONGRATULATE
Posts: 33,241
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
It remains unclear if Trump fully understands how the federal debt works“You mentioned all the economic indicators are going up,” a reporter asked. “Why, then, is the — are U.S. deficits and the financial debt increasing at a time when the economy —”
Trump jumped in.
“Well, the trade deals won’t kick in for a while,” he said. “You know, number one, the USMCA” — the revised version of NAFTA that Trump’s administration negotiated with Canada and Mexico — “hasn’t even been approved yet. It has to go before Congress and get approved. Now, it should get approved quickly.”
Before NAFTA, Trump said, “we had huge surpluses with Mexico. With NAFTA, we have huge deficits. We lose $100 billion a year on trade with Mexico. Does that sound good? And this has been going on for many years. So I stopped it. I stopped it a lot.”
You probably noticed that Trump took a question that’s obviously about the federal budget deficit and gave an answer that dealt with the country’s trade deficits. Both are deficits, sure, but they relate to each other in about the same way that a tuning fork relates to a dinner fork. The term “deficit” describes something similar in each case, and they can even share similar properties, but the two are by no means equal.
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Trump was asked if the tariffs he had imposed on China might remain in effect indefinitely even if the United States and China reached a broader trade agreement, as Trump hoped.
“Yeah, sure,” Trump replied. “We have 25 percent now on $50 billion. And by the way . . . that’s a lot of money pouring into our Treasury, you know. We never made 5 cents with China. We’re getting, right now, 25 percent on $50 billion. And then I was putting 25 percent at a later date, which date came and went — 25 percent or $200 billion.”
Now, it is true that tariffs can generate revenue for the government. In 2017, the U.S. government generated $34.9 billion in “customs duties,” taxes paid on the import of products into the country. That made up just under 1 percent of all of the taxes collected that year. (The bulk came from income taxes.)
If you’re curious, assuming that the U.S. government collected 25 percent tariffs on $50 billion in Chinese products, that would be another $12.5 billion in revenue, but that’s probably not a fair assumption. The percentage of revenue that would constitute is about 1.3 percent.
But, as The Washington Post’s Heather Long pointed out when Trump suggested in August that tariffs would pay down the debt, it’s not the Chinese paying those tariffs — it’s the person or company doing the importing.
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“The country — we took it over and owed over $20 trillion,” Trump said, referring to the national debt. “As you know, the last eight years, they borrowed more than it did in the whole history of our country. So they borrowed more than $10 trillion, right? And yet we picked up $5.2 trillion just in the stock market. Possibly picked up the whole thing in terms of the first nine months, in terms of value. So you could say, in one sense, we’re really increasing values. And maybe, in a sense, we’re reducing debt.”
There is no sense in which rising stock market valuations reduces the federal debt. The way the federal debt is reduced is either by cutting federal spending or increasing federal revenue, including through raising taxes. As president, Trump has made overtures at the former and rejected the latter, meaning that the nearly $20 trillion debt Trump inherited has now topped $21.5 trillion. WHARTONNNN
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02-02-2019, 02:18 AM
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#6243
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For President
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: DO NOT CONGRATULATE
Posts: 33,241
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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02-02-2019, 08:07 AM
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#6244
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Posts: 40,378
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
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This is a bad headline, seems fairly clear.
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02-02-2019, 09:42 AM
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#6245
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Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 53,259
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Of course he doesn't understand it. He doesn't understand anything even remotely complicated.
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02-02-2019, 10:14 AM
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#6246
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 15,501
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Every time I think I have a full grasp on how stupid he is, it gets worse. I legitimately think my 7 year old is smarter and (far) more emotionally stable.
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02-02-2019, 10:38 AM
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#6247
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 31,465
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
didnt trump once say the stock market going up was clearing the debt
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02-02-2019, 11:11 AM
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#6248
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,098
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by El Rata
didnt trump once say the stock market going up was clearing the debt
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"And yet we picked up $5.2 trillion just in the stock market. Possibly picked up the whole thing in terms of the first nine months, in terms of value. So you could say, in one sense, we’re really increasing values. And maybe, in a sense, we’re reducing debt.”
This was like 3 posts above yours.
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02-02-2019, 11:22 AM
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#6249
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 19,896
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
This guy doesn’t care to know anything unless it personally impacts him.
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02-02-2019, 12:00 PM
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#6250
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Approaching busto
Posts: 13,420
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re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Of course he doesn't understand it. He doesn't understand anything.
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Except for conning people and ripping them off
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