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01-28-2019 , 03:27 PM

#5726

wheatrich

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01-28-2019 , 03:28 PM

#5727

eyebooger

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RunyonAve

Taller liar incoming

https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/s...62162687262722

The mayor of Knox County, Tennessee?

01-28-2019 , 03:42 PM

#5728

TrollyWantACracker

Pooh-Bah

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Shaqille O'Neal one time dealer.

01-28-2019 , 03:54 PM

#5729

kerowo

lolcat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewT50

It's about $10 billion/year, which is less than 1% of the annual payroll tax take (the undocumented labor force makes up something like 3% of the taxpaying workforce, by contrast). Not necessarily "keeping it afloat", but it's a positive factor nonetheless.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/20-I...20Taxation.pdf

I think it's not necessarily a terrible thing for guest workers to be paying into entitlement programs from which they cannot draw, but this should be a piece of a great compromise on immigration. We should allow many workers to have legal status here in order to help pay for the entitlement programs that are underfunded (mainly medicare). But right now it's just a blip in the system that happens to exist, and I find it hard to argue in favor of maintaining any single thing that screws illegal immigrants over, considering they're among the most screwed-over groups in our society as it is.

If you're actually concerned about entitlement program funding, the higher birthrate of immigrants is of dramatically greater benefit to these programs than payroll taxes among current illegal immigrants. But that's the kind of thing that would only be relevant in a good-faith debate about the subject, which currently does not exist.

I would be more interested on focusing on the companies that are filing fraudulent employment papers to highlight the problem that immigrants solve than worrying about them taking advantage of entitlements they've paid for.

It's an easier conversation to have when it turns out not having immigrants is going to raise the prices of everyday items because labor costs suddenly go up.

01-28-2019 , 03:55 PM

#5730

markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

Ahem

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/st...47611170246656

I come to this site to get away from poker and now this thread is non stop poker.

01-28-2019 , 04:12 PM

#5731

epcfast

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The newly appointed Head of Caravan Spotting.

01-28-2019 , 04:32 PM

#5732

An_Reathai

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...iciary-1129642

Quote:

A top House Democratic investigator has agreed not to throw any surprise subpoenas in his oversight of the Trump administration, in a rare bipartisan gesture toward Republicans.

At a panel organizing meeting late last week, House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler agreed to consult with his GOP counterpart for two days before issuing a subpoena to force witnesses to testify.

Hmmm.

Quote:

The new process reflects a transparency that the GOP previously ignored. Republicans changed House rules several years ago so that their panel chairmen could unilaterally subpoena witnesses without consulting with or even notifying Democrats.

lol.

01-28-2019 , 04:45 PM

#5733

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

The mayor of Knox County, Tennessee?

Bah gawd! Hes hideous!

01-28-2019 , 04:47 PM

#5734

Jiggymike

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Quote:

Originally Posted by An_Reathai

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...iciary-1129642

Hmmm.

lol.

Off to a great ****ing start I see. Dems just repeatedly going to own themselves again; honestly if they haven’t learned yet then they deserve what they get.

01-28-2019 , 04:56 PM

#5735

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RunyonAve

Taller liar incoming

https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/s...62162687262722

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

The mayor of Knox County, Tennessee?

I was a bit confused by this reply only to find out that it was Kane lol

01-28-2019 , 05:04 PM

#5736

markksman

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The wrestler?

01-28-2019 , 05:06 PM

#5737

eyebooger

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

The wrestler?

Yup

01-28-2019 , 05:08 PM

#5738

master3004

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Any time she starts a sentence with "Look" its a clear dodge

01-28-2019 , 05:13 PM

#5739

kre8tive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

It's good to hear the president railing against someone whose business is paying him money... isn't it?

It's good to see him publicly stating he didn't divest from his businesses.

01-28-2019 , 05:21 PM

#5740

eyebooger

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She starts almost every answer with "Again..."

01-28-2019 , 05:31 PM

#5741

goofyballer

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https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status...91313544298496

Clicking through to the article:

Quote:

The White House had predicted that the massive fiscal stimulus package, marked by the reduction in the corporate tax rate to 21 percent from 35 percent, would boost business spending and job growth. The tax cuts came into effect in January 2018.

“A large majority of respondents, 84 percent, indicate that one year after its passage, the corporate tax reform has not caused their firms to change hiring or investment plans,” said NABE President Kevin Swift.

Oh look, exactly like liberals predicted

01-28-2019 , 05:52 PM

#5742

eyebooger

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https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/st...58111400681472

01-28-2019 , 05:55 PM

#5743

gobbo

Trust the fat man.

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What is that even saying?

01-28-2019 , 05:56 PM

#5744

Johnny Truant

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gobbo

What is that even saying?

+1. The one time he needs more labels.

01-28-2019 , 06:02 PM

#5745

Jiggymike

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Also missed opportunity to draw Trump with rippling back muscles.

01-28-2019 , 06:04 PM

#5746

fatkid

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Lol that’s not the worst garrison.

01-28-2019 , 06:10 PM

#5747

markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

Yup

Lolololol

01-28-2019 , 06:10 PM

#5748

Pwn_Master

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I think the guy to the right is Mueller with a Stalin tattoo. Stone is with Nixon, who is actually good now, and Mueller is a commie.*

If correct, probably clearest example yet how far down the rabbit hole these “Trump conservatives” have gone that they side with an obvious, and proud of it, slime ball like Roger Stone over Mueller who checks every box that “conservatives” claim to stand for.

Last edited by Pwn_Master; 01-28-2019 at 06:13 PM. Reason: *Mueller receive many medals for his service in the Vietnam War, lol

01-28-2019 , 06:11 PM

#5749

Paul D

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Interestingly enough Garrison would've fit right as a Soviet prop artist.

01-28-2019 , 06:14 PM

#5750

TrollyWantACracker

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Lol, at first I thought that was Manafort and Stone in a prison shower or something.

It must be Muller though. Are they having a three way with Stone's wife?

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