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Old 01-25-2019, 10:10 PM   #5401
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Well, Stone's on rn with Cuomo. So how about now?
You don't waive your right against self-incrimination just because you've previously incriminated yourself... Think about that, if that was the case, everyone who ever confessed to anything ever could be made to testify against themselves simply because they'd already confessed. Also he's apparently a former military prosecutor so he definitely knows this. Maybe whoever posted this misunderstood what he was saying? I didn't see the interview.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 10:11 PM   #5402
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The whole not destroying evidence line is a joke when he's been sitting there waiting to be indicted for a year. If he was going to destroy evidence, it's long gone.
you're saying he hasn't had any communication/data on his computer(s) and cell phone(s) that were in the house?
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:15 PM   #5403
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:22 PM   #5404
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Why wouldn’t she at this point? She won, flawless victory. The only question si whether there is not enough time, from a pure logistics standpoint, to go ahead with the normal date.
She could continue to leverage not having it to highlight what a ridiculous baby POTUS is.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:24 PM   #5405
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Who is the chick on Cuomo now that has single ha deadly cornered the Botox market? Is she the one that was at the courthouse this morning?

(Can only stand to peek in).
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:25 PM   #5406
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She could continue to leverage not having it to highlight what a ridiculous baby POTUS is.

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Meh, it just makes her look petty if she does. She owned him all over the place and played this basically perfectly. She also told him when he reopened the government they could discuss a mutually agreed upon date so there's no reason for her not to do that now.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 10:39 PM   #5407
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Meh, it just makes her look petty if she does. She owned him all over the place and played this basically perfectly. She also told him when he reopened the government they could discuss a mutually agreed upon date so there's no reason for her not to do that now.
Yeah, you're right. She'll have plenty of later spots to go for the juggular. He is clearly outmatched.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:39 PM   #5408
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You don't waive your right against self-incrimination just because you've previously incriminated yourself... Think about that, if that was the case, everyone who ever confessed to anything ever could be made to testify against themselves simply because they'd already confessed. Also he's apparently a former military prosecutor so he definitely knows this. Maybe whoever posted this misunderstood what he was saying? I didn't see the interview.
I was joking. Sorry, maybe too much coffee today. Lieu probably just meant since Stone's open to talking, let's talk (under penalty of perjury).
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:43 PM   #5409
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Guys, trump just got bitchsmacked hard. There is no way he shuts down the government again in 3 weeks after this. These are incorrect takes. He either declares an emergency, or just lies about whatever “deal” eventually emerges and calls it a day. Most likely it’s the latter.

I really hope you are right
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:47 PM   #5410
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Anyone else rewatching Get Me Roger Stone tonight?
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:50 PM   #5411
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I imagine this has already been suggested itt, but I think it would be a good idea for one or more "spokespersons" for federal workers forced to work throughout the shutdown without pay to hint that federal workers will seriously consider alternatives to working without pay should another shutdown occur in February.

Get the word out early and often.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:51 PM   #5412
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Watching Who Framed Roger Stone instead.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:53 PM   #5413
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The Dems are going to do a deal with money going to "border security" and Trump's going to say that's what he wanted all along and he pulled a quick one on the Democrats

Ann Coulter will not be amused
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:06 PM   #5414
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Sklanky’s posts are all just thinly veiled brags to try to make himself look smart.

He doesn’t think trump thought what he posted, but wanted us to know he could think of it
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:09 PM   #5415
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I really hope you are right
If he shuts it down again, it’s going to play out the same way, except this time his approval tanks even worse. He needs to get out of the cycle and he knows it. I just can’t play this out in any way other than him lying and claiming some sort of victory that isn’t there, or *possibly* but unilkely doing the emergency powers act. But I can’t see him doing that either, because if he was going to do that, he would have done it today. That seems like it was always a bluff that Pelosi called. Trump is irrational and stupid, but closing the government again would be the height of irrationality and stupidity for him. And, again, if he does it, great, he’s just ****ing himself again and he’ll shave another few points off the old 538 tracker and shed just a little more of his base.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 11:11 PM   #5416
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Don Lemon is reading quotes from the art of the deal right now.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:16 PM   #5417
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Trump gets credit from his base for holding out. And he knew that the credit would be proportional to the square of number of days the shutdown lasted. However there was also a "cosmological constant" involved (which I know you know about since you are a disciple of Tegmark) that Trump had to take into account that starts small, about 2% of the other force, in the opposite direction. But Trump realized that this opposite force was proportional to the CUBE of the number of days as workers started to attend food banks.



So from day one Trump knew that the shutdown's maximum effectiveness in making his was base happy was simply the solution to the equation 2x -(3x squared)/50 =0 . He decided to go a couple extra days just in case.


Hmmmm

Eat a ban?


I guess not
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:17 PM   #5418
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I think that the MAGA cred had diminishing returns after x=50/3 days:

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?...(3x%5E2)%2F50)

Which sounds about right; he would have been able to deliver the SOTU, which would have delivered more MAGA. Now, he has 11 days to cobble together a SOTU, where if he had cut his losses at peak MAGA, he would still have had more time to work on it.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:17 PM   #5419
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Asked what McConnell said in response, Pelosi replied: “What does he ever say? Nothing.”
Nice, lol.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:20 PM   #5420
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I so hard right now.

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Old 01-25-2019, 11:25 PM   #5421
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So Pelosi... running for President?
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:30 PM   #5422
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I was disappointed by the Roger Stone interview tonight.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:32 PM   #5423
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So Pelosi... running for President?
It’s amazing to me how much hate this forum had for her, not 30 days ago, and how now she’s like second only to AOC and maybe BHO in terms of GPOAT. Granted she’s always been awesome and i’m old enough to remember 2006-2010, but it’s funny to watch everyone finally realize it.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 11:38 PM   #5424
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I will tell you something most of the country probably already knows: @SpeakerPelosi does not mess around
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:50 PM   #5425
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The day when David Sklansky became a gimmick account for Savid Dklansky. Or, conversely, the day when we discovered that David Sklansky was in fact Savid Dklansky all along.
I never really liked Savid Dklansky`s posts much, but this new gimmick making fun of him is pretty good.
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