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Old 01-25-2019, 01:28 AM   #4976
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Dems are gonna blow this

Now senators discussing bipartisan compromise

Once they start talking about compromising with the hostage takers, they lose the “don’t negotiate with hostage takers” part and they start getting blamed if shutdown continues

And of course if trump gets ANYTHING at all out of this, then he will do it again every time a shutdown is possible

6 republicans broke rank to vote on CR and the dems decide now is the time to give them a compromise and teach the president that shutdowns work?

WAAF

Dems are negotiating w/ the GOP. They are not negotiating w/ Trump. There's a difference. They only need 8 GOP senators to turn in order to bypass a veto.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:30 AM   #4977
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Asylum seekers were showing up to court at a rate in the 90s% under Obama program that helped them get legal representation etc
It was still like 87% as of FY17.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:43 AM   #4978
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Dems are negotiating w/ the GOP. They are not negotiating w/ Trump. There's a difference. They only need 8 GOP senators to turn in order to bypass a veto.
Wat. It's 2/3 majority in both houses required to override a veto, i.e. impossible.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:53 AM   #4979
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Can’t believe he is doing the emergency order.

Next dem president has to immediately declare healthcare emergency and institute single payer.
What's more likely, assuming Trump declares a national emergency here? Next Dem president uses a national emergency on a priority like healthcare, climate change, poverty, gunts, etc... Or next Dem Senate re-instates the filibuster on itself on everything? I know what my money would be on...

It's political malpractice if he declares this national emergency if the next Dem inaugural address isn't this short and sweet...

My fellow Americans, on this historic occasion, I have a few minor housekeeping notes here...

1. Our healthcare situation is a national emergency. Single payer starts tomorrow.

2. Climate change is a national emergency. We're re-entering the Paris Agreement and spending every necessary dollar to address this, starting tomorrow.

3. Mass shootings are a national emergency. No more assault weapons, starting tomorrow.

4. Income inequality and poverty are national emergency. Minimum wage is $15 per hour, starting tomorrow.

5. Have a good night, and God Bless America! [mic drop]

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The CNN article makes it sound likes he's about to issue it but only says it's been recently updated so who knows. It's horrible move to make for him which makes it more likely and also makes it likely to succeed...
I'm at the point where I just want him to do it already so we can get it over with and see if the courts preserve democracy. It appears to be the inevitable end to this shutdown... and honestly, given that the two endings may well be either Dems cave or he declares a national emergency, I'm hoping for the one in which the Dems don't cave and the courts save us.

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trump's not going to back down because he thinks grocery stores will let people walk out with free food and live rent free indefinitely, he's delusional, his only play is to call a national emergency and divert puerto rico hurricane relief money to wall contractors
"We're going to build a wall, and Puerto Rico's going to pay for it!" probably polls every bit as well with deplorables as the other version.

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The **** is he talking about? The stock market is reported on during most news breaks every ****ing day, aside from the shows, newspaper sections and magazines devoted to the topic.
I wish some news director on CNN or MSNBC would do an A block of sarcastic pro-Trump stock market updates one night. Just a solid 10 minutes of obvious bull**** that he wouldn't understand was high-level trolling, which would lead to a series of epic tweets.

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Trump administration to start sending asylum seekers to wait in Mexico
U.S. officials at the southern border will begin sending some asylum applicants back to Mexico on Friday as the Trump administration implements new measures prohibiting migrants from waiting in the United States while their cases are processed.

The plan, announced by the Department of Homeland Security on Thursday night, follows high
Early stage idea here, but after the WSOP I'm thinking about heading down to San Diego and Tijuana for a few days and spending a day or two volunteering in whatever capacity is possible to help migrants on the Mexico side of the border who our government is ****ing over. If anyone would care to join me, either who will be at the WSOP or lives in SoCal or would like to make a trip out of it, feel free to post a reply or shoot me a PM. I am pretty confident in being able to raise enough money to pay for a good amount of food/water/clothes/whatever is needed, and in being able to reach out and figure out the best way to go about it. I am not fluent in Spanish, but I speak enough to communicate a bit and get by, starting with... "El presidente de los Estados Unidos es estupido. Lo siento. Que necesitas?"

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Dems are negotiating w/ the GOP. They are not negotiating w/ Trump. There's a difference. They only need 8 GOP senators to turn in order to bypass a veto.
Eight to break the filibuster, 15 to bypass a veto.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:56 AM   #4980
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Asylum seekers were showing up to court at a rate in the 90s% under Obama program that helped them get legal representation etc
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It was still like 87% as of FY17.
1. Help them get competent legal representation, so that said lawyer can explain to them whether or not they have a good shot at asylum.

2. The ones who believe their odds are good proceed.

3. Given that they know the odds, almost everyone who proceeds will have the full intentions of going through the process given the risk/reward ratio is in their favor to their own satisfaction.

Amazing how that works. It's almost as if just making the process efficient, humane and rational would actually solve about 90% of the problem. But nah, let's just shut our government down for a few months instead.
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Old 01-25-2019, 02:01 AM   #4981
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Cuse, that inauguration would make me hard.
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Old 01-25-2019, 02:04 AM   #4982
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Cuse, that inauguration would make me hard.

This is a strong statement coming from you, specifically.
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Old 01-25-2019, 02:10 AM   #4983
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House panel cancels hearing after Mnuchin declines to appear
Committee Chairman Richard Neal (D-Mass.) last week called on Mnuchin to appear before the committee for a hearing on the shutdown's impact on the Department of Treasury and taxpayers.
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Old 01-25-2019, 02:11 AM   #4984
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Cuse, that inauguration would make me hard.
How's the saying go? If you have an erection that doesn't begin until four hours or more after stimulation began, you need a faster pony.

Yeah, that's it.

Spoiler:
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:26 AM   #4985
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Wat. It's 2/3 majority in both houses required to override a veto, i.e. impossible.
It sure would open some eyes though if they both passed a CR and the orange conman had to actually use that veto.
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Old 01-25-2019, 05:07 AM   #4986
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Re: Kushner:

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Old 01-25-2019, 07:30 AM   #4987
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Stone indicted. What a pity Trump never knew the man.
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:30 AM   #4988
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Roger Stone arrested by FBI.

The indictment includes one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements, and one count of witness-tampering.

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Old 01-25-2019, 07:37 AM   #4989
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:42 AM   #4990
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Let us gogogogogo
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:43 AM   #4991
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:46 AM   #4992
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Booooooom.
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:53 AM   #4993
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Indictment is here if you want to read it

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After the July 22, 2016 release of stolen DNC emails by Organization 1, a senior Trump Campaign official was directed to contact STONE about any additional releases and what other damaging information Organization 1 had regarding the Clinton Campaign. STONE thereafter told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases of damaging material by Organization 1.
Fun.
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:59 AM   #4994
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Will Stone flip?

You hear that, homey? You wanna go to jail or you wanna go home? Huh?


They got room for you at the booty house, you ever been to the booty house. Big boys have you grab you ankles...
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:03 AM   #4995
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Alex Jones must be sweating balls! His water filter empire is crashing down around him.
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:04 AM   #4996
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Glee.
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:04 AM   #4997
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Honestly, there is nobody I wanted to be arrested more, not Trump Jr., not Kushner, not Trump himself, than Roger Stone. This is phenomenal news for the rule of law.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 08:14 AM   #4998
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This indictment is littered with links to the Trump campaign
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:15 AM   #4999
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Sounds like the FBI gave him an early morning knock on the door. Awesome. No notice. No turning himself in. Hopefully a neighbor or someone shot some video.

Edit. CNN has something with FBI outside the house, wanna see the cuffs go on and walk of shame.

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Old 01-25-2019, 08:21 AM   #5000
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C'mon Donnie. Tweet something.
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