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Old 01-22-2019, 09:45 PM   #4526
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of course it's right, kinda surprised it would even be debated

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Old 01-22-2019, 09:47 PM   #4527
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Buzzfeed release this afternoon getting surprisingly little attention.
About the Trump Tower plans? Of course there were plans. LOL at anybody claiming otherwise. Didn't need docs to prove it. You don't have an executed LOI without thoroughly discussing the project, the business terms, the sponsor, the management, etc. It is literally the last step before you start drafting the actual contracts themselves, which are typically just templates which drop in the terms from the LOI.
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:53 PM   #4528
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in totes unrelated newz

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Old 01-22-2019, 09:56 PM   #4529
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Literally everyone left is mentally ill and/or has a personality disorder, but I legit think Rudy is not playing with a full deck.
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:57 PM   #4530
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:59 PM   #4531
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Early on it was a bunch of nudge, nudge, wink, wink about Rudy's lies. The Fox contingent could smile and nod along.

Now even Rudy (essentially) is saying that it's been all lies the whole way. Nobody, and I mean nobody, believes one word he says at this point.

And, worse, things he says now actually hurt Trump's case, not help.
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:59 PM   #4532
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my favorite was when rudy said on tv that he "funnels money" for clients through his law firm "all the time", and the law firm he was working for fires him a couple days later
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:01 PM   #4533
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:02 PM   #4534
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we need a rudy giuliani appreciation thread, there are so many killer moments. i'll legit be sad when he leaves the team
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:04 PM   #4535
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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Individual 1, Thread 2, Year 3.

At this point, regardless of how kompromat he is or not, or how close mueller may be to completely bringing down the hammer - why would you ever think itís a good idea to tweet about putin, in ANY context, if you were trump??
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:09 PM   #4536
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:10 PM   #4537
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Tim Kaine on CNN right now basically breaking down how if the Senate passes the clean CR through February 8th and Trump signs it, the Dems will pretty much cave and give Trump the wall by 2/8... as long as he tells them how the money is going to be spent and why each part of it is needed.
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:12 PM   #4538
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Good thing Nancy is the one in charge.

(I’ll take things I never thought I’d say for infinity Alex)
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:23 PM   #4540
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Forget Rudy. That's the entire administration.
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Good thing Nancy is the one in charge.

(Iíll take things I never thought Iíd say for infinity Alex)
But if the Senate Dems cave, the Dems lose, period. Doesn't matter what Pelosi does...
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Sherrod Brown on the other hand on MSNBC singing a different tune, saying that if the Dems give in now they'll just empower Trump to keep doing this over and over again.
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:31 PM   #4543
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"I am afraid it will be on my gravestone. 'Rudy Giuliani: He lied for Trump,’” he said. "Somehow, I don’t think that will be it. But, if it is, so what do I care? I’ll be dead. I figure I can explain it to St. Peter.”
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:35 PM   #4544
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So Chris Cuomo is now birthering Kamala Harris? WTF?
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:35 PM   #4545
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But if the Senate Dems cave, the Dems lose, period. Doesn't matter what Pelosi does...
I'm not following. What do Senate Dems have to do with the House? If they don't filibuster passage of a bill Nancy has no intention of bringing to the floor so what?
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So Chris Cuomo is now birthering Kamala Harris? WTF?
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:37 PM   #4547
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About the Trump Tower plans? Of course there were plans. LOL at anybody claiming otherwise. Didn't need docs to prove it. You don't have an executed LOI without thoroughly discussing the project, the business terms, the sponsor, the management, etc. It is literally the last step before you start drafting the actual contracts themselves, which are typically just templates which drop in the terms from the LOI.
Agreed anyone still denying was ludicrous, but that's exactly what trump was doing up until yesterday.

But the story is probably more important and relevant as evidence that buzzfeed's sources have the goods.
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:38 PM   #4548
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Tim Kaine on CNN right now basically breaking down how if the Senate passes the clean CR through February 8th and Trump signs it, the Dems will pretty much cave and give Trump the wall by 2/8... as long as he tells them how the money is going to be spent and why each part of it is needed.
That makes no sense (or I am not understanding what Kaine is saying).
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:41 PM   #4549
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I'm not following. What do Senate Dems have to do with the House? If they don't filibuster passage of a bill Nancy has no intention of bringing to the floor so what?
No, Kaine is making it sound like if the GOP passes a clean CR through 2/8 and Trump signs it, they'll cut a deal to give him the $5.7 billion. If that happens, and it passes with Dem support (even just letting it past a filibuster), the Dems will own the next shutdown (starting on 2/8) if they kill it in the House. Once the Dems own the shutdown, they lose and they'll give up the wall and get nothing.

Opening the government for ~2 weeks is a huge risk for Dems, given that they currently shoulder virtually no blame in the shutdown and would basically be the favorite to catch the blame on 2/8.
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At the One-Issue White House, the Standoff Over a Border Wall Displaces Other Priorities
But at a time when a president is typically finishing a collection of policies in connection with the State of the Union and previewing them to build public support, some of Mr. Trump’s aides acknowledge that the president and his senior team have been almost entirely focused on the border dispute.

Indeed, administration officials said the situation had the unintended benefit of making it easier for Mick Mulvaney, the newly installed acting White House chief of staff, to settle into his job because he did not have as many issues to juggle.

The president, who made no public appearances on Tuesday, has kept his primary attention on the fight for the border wall for weeks, making only two unrelated out-of-town trips since the shutdown began, an unannounced stop in Iraq to visit troops at Christmas time and a quick flight to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware last weekend to pay respects to the returning remains of four Americans killed in Syria. Even a day trip to New Orleans to address farmers turned into another public pitch for the wall.

Still in his inbox are a slew of important vacancies to fill, including defense secretary, interior secretary and chief of staff. His attorney general, United Nations ambassador and Environmental Protection Agency chief are all serving in an acting capacity while waiting for Senate confirmation votes of his nominees. The White House on Tuesday sent 51 judicial nominations to the Senate, returning names that had gone unacted on last year.

Mr. Trump expressed no urgency when asked by reporters recently about all the acting officials in the upper echelon of his administration. “I like acting,” he said. “It gives me more flexibility.”

Left uncertain is how Mr. Trump may pursue other goals. He vowed before the midterm election to pass a middle-class tax cut in the new Congress but has said little about it since then. He also vowed to pull out of the North American Free Trade Agreement to pressure Congress to pass his newly negotiated replacement but has yet to do so.

He has similarly talked about collaborating with Ms. Pelosi’s Democrats, who just took over the House, on possible bipartisan initiatives like rebuilding the nation’s roads, bridges and other infrastructure or bringing down the cost of pharmaceutical drugs. Neither of those ideas has come up lately and it is hard to see the current impasse establishing the sort of trust that might lead to across-the-aisle cooperation.
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