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Old 01-20-2019, 03:17 PM   #4226
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So a guy who went to Ole Miss, the university that had a race riot in 1962 after a black student was admitted to the school, was unaware of racism in Mississippi.

And that guy supports Trump? I'm SHOCKED! Shocked I tell you!

Why is the MSM still humanizing these people? This guy is so ignorant that he couldn't see racism in ****ing Mississippi during the Civil Rights Movement!
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Old 01-20-2019, 03:23 PM   #4227
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"Looking forward to meeting with Chairman Kim at end of February!"
... in Vietnam.

China must be ecstatic.
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Old 01-20-2019, 03:27 PM   #4228
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Trump looking like a beta by travelling further to a meeting place than Kim does.
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Old 01-20-2019, 03:28 PM   #4229
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White man - Nobody is treating me worse for being black so I really dont think it’s actually happening.

Can’t believe SA didn’t quote the part about new roads and buildings being built in Ohio, literally the exact thing that awval was hanging his hat on as some credit to Trump. Something tells me they could’ve built a new airport while Obama was president and neither of them would’ve noticed.
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Old 01-20-2019, 03:28 PM   #4230
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Lawnmower Man is right in that once you take up the position of not negotiating with terrorists, you cannot abandon it. Dems have one clear move at this point: hold the line on not negotiating with terrorists, and if anything roll DACA into that by pointing out that he put them into the situation they're in. He's now dangling the DACA recipient hostages he took a while back as a "concession" for the government employees he's taken hostage now. That's the reason you give for this being a non-starter.
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Old 01-20-2019, 03:41 PM   #4231
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So far none of Trump's offers have even really been negotiations, just offers to release hostages. He's threatening and has threatened to deport DACA, shuts down the government, and now says he'll just delay deporting them and reopen the government in exchange for his wall.

Any "bigger deal" is just going to be him taking more hostages to exchange for what his base wants.
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Old 01-20-2019, 03:46 PM   #4232
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And he threatened this morning that if he doesn't get his way he will deport 11 million illegal immigrants currently in the country.

There is literally no end to the things that he could threaten to do.
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Old 01-20-2019, 04:01 PM   #4233
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Engineering Expert Takes Down Trump's Wall Piece By Piece

https://www.georgetakei.com/engineer...33ab68d22425b2

Am I a wall expert? I am. I am literally a court-accepted expert on walls.

Structurally and civil engineering-wise, the border wall is not a feasible project. Trump did not hire engineers to design the thing. He solicited bids from contractors, not engineers. This means it’s not been designed by professionals. It’s a disaster of numerous types waiting to happen.

It does not account for rework, complexities beyond the prototype design, factors to prevent flood and environmental hazard creation, engineering redesign... It’s going to be higher than $50bn. The contractors will hit the government with near CONSTANT change orders. “Cost overrun” will be the name of the game. It will not be completed in Trump’s lifetime.

I’m a structural forensicist, which means I’m called in when things go wrong. This is a project that WILL go wrong
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Old 01-20-2019, 04:05 PM   #4234
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Am I a wall expert? I am. I am literally a court-accepted expert on walls.

I’m a structural forensicist, which means I’m called in when things go wrong. This is a project that WILL go wrong
That's great and all but 40% of the country feels the wall will work and we have to give equal credibility to the feelings of random people, sorry.
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Old 01-20-2019, 04:07 PM   #4235
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Engineering Expert Takes Down Trump's Wall Piece By Piece

https://www.georgetakei.com/engineer...33ab68d22425b2

Am I a wall expert? I am. I am literally a court-accepted expert on walls.

Structurally and civil engineering-wise, the border wall is not a feasible project. Trump did not hire engineers to design the thing. He solicited bids from contractors, not engineers. This means it’s not been designed by professionals. It’s a disaster of numerous types waiting to happen.

It does not account for rework, complexities beyond the prototype design, factors to prevent flood and environmental hazard creation, engineering redesign... It’s going to be higher than $50bn. The contractors will hit the government with near CONSTANT change orders. “Cost overrun” will be the name of the game. It will not be completed in Trump’s lifetime.

I’m a structural forensicist, which means I’m called in when things go wrong. This is a project that WILL go wrong
"The wall, therefore if we judge it by the standards of previous walls, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that the hierarchical society needs. Wall, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of wall, did build against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not building against one another at all. The wall is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the wall is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word "wall," therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous wall has ceased to exist." - GO, sorta
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Old 01-20-2019, 04:13 PM   #4236
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The man who stood behind Trump
As Joe put it, they were all “geehawing,” an old Southernism that meant they were aligned.
Because it's clearly descended from an old Irish or Hiberno-English phrase that now survives only in the stock phrase "Laughin' and keehawin' away" meaning getting along famously, this is funny.

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He did not mind saying that he was living on family money going back a century. His father was a cotton farmer who once owned so much land in the Delta town of Beulah that when a stranger asked where the Davidson land was exactly, Joe said, “Go to Beulah and look around.”
This is funnier.
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Old 01-20-2019, 04:53 PM   #4237
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This is such an utterly bizarre story, I can't believe it's real

Cliffs: The author (WaPo reporter) is in a cafe in Paris talking with a colleague for a couple hours about politics. A random American man at the next table (who turns out to be Joe Kernen of CNBC) hands him a phone and says "Would you like to talk to the President?" On the phone is, in fact, Donald Trump. Trump thinks he is talking to a supporter and not to a WaPo reporter. Awkwardness ensues.

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He asked me another question: “Are you Hillary or are you Trump?”

At that point, I realized that confusion was rampant on both ends of this telephone call.

“I’m a reporter,” I replied.

That stopped him short, and I could almost hear the wheels spinning at the other end of the line as he tried to figure out what was going on here.

“Do you know who you’re speaking with?” I asked him.

It was an unfair question to ask. Obviously he did not, as there was no way he would have recognized my voice or in any other way assumed that he was talking to anyone other than a random American who happened to be in Paris. Had he known, I wonder whether he would have agreed to have the phone handed to me.

I identified myself. He seemed to be as surprised by the fact that he had a Washington Post reporter on the line as I had been to find that a man at a table next to mine was actually talking to the president of the United States.
The best explanation for what happened seems to be that...
- Kernen overheard reporters' conversation and told Trump "people are talking about you in Paris"
- Trump thinks he has some MAGA chuds nearby and asks to talk to them
- The WaPo reporter turns out not to be a MAGA chud
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Old 01-20-2019, 05:04 PM   #4238
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i'm imagining actual maga republicans vacationing in paris

"the égalité is really bringing down the vibe, imagine how great this place would be with 1 or 2 billionaires."

"yeah and what about our religious liberté? too many muslims! this is what happens when you force schools to do common core."

"and the fraternité culture here is a joke, i've only done like 3 kegstands this trip and the bartenders were very rude"

"this place sucks! europe isn't europe anymore! trump, take us away!"
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Old 01-20-2019, 05:57 PM   #4239
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Buzzfeed doubling down on their story being correct. On phone so can’t link atm.
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Old 01-20-2019, 06:05 PM   #4240
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Buzzfeed doubling down on their story being correct. On phone so can’t link atm.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/media...ier/index.html

I’m so confused. How can it be true still? Mueller never speaks to press and said it’s not correct. Hard to think of a stronger seal of authenticity.
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Old 01-20-2019, 06:09 PM   #4241
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Only thing I can think is it leaked and Mueller really doesn’t want it out yet. If that’s the case I bet he’s pissed.
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Old 01-20-2019, 06:11 PM   #4242
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Only thing I can think is it leaked and Mueller really doesn’t want it out yet. If that’s the case I bet he’s pissed.
I wonder if there might be some legal technicality in the story mueller needs corrected for the bigger picture.
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Old 01-20-2019, 06:34 PM   #4243
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Trump instructing Cohen to lie wasn't mentioned in Cohen's sentencing statement AFAIK. Cohen said he lied to cover up Trump's lies.

IANAL but I would imagine that Cohen being "instructed" by the POTUS to lie would be huge in the context of the sentencing judge understanding why Cohen lied. In the UK hiding such significant evidence from a court would be grounds for a mis-trial.

I would imagine that Mueller doesn't have enough evidence to prove that Trump actually gave an instruction to lie. He therefore had to make a statement to retain his integrity given the Cohen sentencing statements.

What Buzzfeed probably have are indications that Trump knew Cohen had lied (or was going to lie) and did nothing, just like he knew Jnr lied about the "adoption" meeting.
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:26 PM   #4244
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Trump twitter bot getting to be too much for me. Lord god what an oaf.
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:38 PM   #4245
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:48 PM   #4246
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:50 PM   #4247
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:01 PM   #4248
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Serve how? It's becoming an almost daily thing that I'm nearly overwhelmed by the stupidity of huge chunks of the country.
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:22 PM   #4249
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People who think that Mueller is playing 4d chess and the buzzfeed report actually is true are seriously wishcasting here. Buzzfeed ****ed up, it’s time to move on.
 
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