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Old 01-11-2019, 01:34 PM   #2676
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:34 PM   #2677
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I genuinely thought they might stage some type of security threat during the trip. Instead is was just Donald chatting with Hannity for a bit followed by tweets about what a huge CRISIS we have.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:34 PM   #2678
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Because he doesn’t really want it done.

He is the guy yelling “hold me back” to his friends in a schoolyard so everyone thinks he’s about to fight
This is false.

Republicans don’t want to lose filibuster for a wall big business doesn’t want.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:36 PM   #2679
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Holy **** that Steven king quote in the times! Google it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:36 PM   #2680
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Funny that war mongers like LG can’t figure out that the best way to counter China is a more united and wealthier Americas
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:37 PM   #2681
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Of course trump actually wants the wall. Why wouldn’t he?
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:41 PM   #2682
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Does he realize airplanes, which have been used extensively by smugglers for decades, can actually fly over walls?
Yeah having watched this video it would surprise me if drugs aren't 100% brought in by drones within about two years. And not long after that they'll be able to pick up people and bring them in the same way.

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Old 01-11-2019, 01:43 PM   #2683
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I'd take $5B for the entire GOP establishment committing ritual seppuku.
i'd borrow $5T from china for that outcome
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:50 PM   #2684
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:53 PM   #2685
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Trump: I need to shut down the government unless you let me build new wall.

Also Trump: We just built some new wall.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:58 PM   #2686
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Funny that war mongers like LG can’t figure out that the best way to counter China is a more united and wealthier Americas
China is going to pass us in GDP and hopefully India as well some day. People will poop their pants because Chinese per capita GDP reached 1/4th of ours.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:07 PM   #2687
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This really irritates me. It irritates me more that Dems don't have a unified and forceful response to this bull****.

As part of the speech coverage Tuesday night, I heard the Newshour Congressional reporter say this:



I mean WTF? How do you not have an answer for that?
Because their entire purpose it to oppose trump
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:08 PM   #2688
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How about $5B in exchange for Merrick Garland taking RBG's seat?
**** that. Gorsuch's seat.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:11 PM   #2689
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The wall has already been built folks, it's already been built. And it's wonderful, the best wall you've ever seen.

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Oh baby, coal wall ONE TIME DEALER
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:12 PM   #2690
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$5b for increasing the supreme court to 20 members and letting AOC choose all the judges. And DC and PR become states.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:13 PM   #2691
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Nothing makes that seem fake more than the date showing.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:14 PM   #2692
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The Wall is the manifestation of identity politics for the vast vast majority of people like Trump and his supporters. So there is no "compromise" or "negotiations" that make sense.

If you give them money for the Wall, they will demand more money for the Wall and then more money for the Wall, ad finitum.

And once (funding for) the Wall is "in place", they will demand other things on the deplorable wish list such as drastic reduction in legal immigration, removing rights of immigrants, restricting rights of minorities, and other things too reprehensible to even consider.

If people question whether you should ever negotiate with a terrorist, how about a rule that you never negotiate with a deplorable terrorist?
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:19 PM   #2693
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It was really thoughtful of them to install a warning track with the wall.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:20 PM   #2694
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all I can think of is George Bluth's driving around a fake US/Mex wall in Arrested Development season 4
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:23 PM   #2695
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You'll all be surprised that i think declaring a national emergency for the wall

It would set a horrible precedent
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:25 PM   #2696
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I genuinely thought they might stage some type of security threat during the trip. Instead is was just Donald chatting with Hannity for a bit followed by tweets about what a huge CRISIS we have.
Not just that, he was also shown tunnels under existing sections of wall by CBP.

NYT has a good article about how much of the border already has fencing/walls with a graphic explaining the different sections and such:


Everything east of El Paso is privately owned land, and also conveniently has a natural barrier in place. Does that mean it's going to cost $5.7 billion to patch in those small gaps in the wall in CA, AZ, and NM?
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:28 PM   #2697
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25 billion wall for Merrick garland is actually an awesome idea
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:28 PM   #2698
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er....this is a coincidence:

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Old 01-11-2019, 02:32 PM   #2699
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25 billion wall for Merrick garland is actually an awesome idea
Interesting collection of words you have there.

Out of curiosity - do you have any examples of non-awesome ideas?
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:54 PM   #2700
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DACA for 5B in wall is a slam dunk, shutdown or no shutdown. I can't say 100% that everybody arguing with you knew that the unpopularity of the shutdown was creating an opportunity to get this slam dunk deal, but that was the impression I got, and certainly I can quote my posts where I say this.
We could also quote where I pointed out pretty conclusively that rep likes to twist the argument as necessary in order to best convince people he's winning. It's all he cares about. He will never admit he was wrong. His ego is too fragile. It's fun to continue dunking on him but if your goal is anything beyond that you're wasting your time.
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