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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter

01-25-2019 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by realDonaldTrump

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Cuck a Duck Chuck
01-26-2019 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
Sklanky’s posts are all just thinly veiled brags to try to make himself look smart.

He doesn’t think trump thought what he posted, but wanted us to know he could think of it
Since there is no reason to think the support for the shutdown is a cubic equation, postulating it doesn't make someone smart. It was just a joke. (with a tiny germ of truth in it) And while I sometimes put up a thought to highlight my thinking processes rather than to offer a real world solution, it is because of possible multi millionaire lurkers who might think of a scheme that can turn those processes into a few more millions more (up to 20). Thus the "us" in your post is a little inaccurate.
01-26-2019 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Trump gets credit from his base for holding out. And he knew that the credit would be proportional to the square of number of days the shutdown lasted. However there was also a "cosmological constant" involved (which I know you know about since you are a disciple of Tegmark) that Trump had to take into account that starts small, about 2% of the other force, in the opposite direction. But Trump realized that this opposite force was proportional to the CUBE of the number of days as workers started to attend food banks.

So from day one Trump knew that the shutdown's maximum effectiveness in making his was base happy was simply the solution to the equation 2x -(3x squared)/50 =0 . He decided to go a couple extra days just in case.
Did DS just SD himself?
01-26-2019 , 03:12 AM
I think he DQ'd himself.
01-26-2019 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jman220
It’s amazing to me how much hate this forum had for her, not 30 days ago, and how now she’s like second only to AOC and maybe BHO in terms of GPOAT. Granted she’s always been awesome and i’m old enough to remember 2006-2010, but it’s funny to watch everyone finally realize it.
Brag: I was sticking up for her a year ago.

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This certainly describes some Democrats more than others. As Champstark said, Feinstein is on an extreme of one side here. I'm just not sure that Pelosi is fairly lumped in. It's a small sample size but when I look at a few votes where some Democrats jumped over and supported the Republicans, she doesn't seem to be there.
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Originally Posted by me
Schumer is a striving weasel.

Just looking at Pelosi's wiki

Opposed the Iraq War Resolution

Has publicly supported Tibet, an obvious position but almost everyone in Congress is too weasely to do this.

Killed the Colombia Free Trade agreement because Colombia was killing a bunch of Trade Unionists (later it went through under Boehner)

Opposed embargo on Cuba since before Obama

Important for Iran Deal

Calls the Armenian Genocide Genocide, something weasels are afraid to do

Opposed the Clinton Welfare Reform

Voted against the Secure Fence Act in 2006 (HRC and Feinstein voted for it)

Opposed the Gulf War in 1991

Voted against Defense of Marriage Act

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She's not perfect (you know, for what I prefer), and I could put up some stuff I don't like, but she's not bad.
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01-26-2019 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jman220
It’s amazing to me how much hate this forum had for her, not 30 days ago, and how now she’s like second only to AOC and maybe BHO in terms of GPOAT. Granted she’s always been awesome and i’m old enough to remember 2006-2010, but it’s funny to watch everyone finally realize it.
Pelosi handled it well, but let's keep it real though, this was a layup. Trump owned himself. Imo Pelosi benefits by her obvious comparison point in Chuck "Sackless" Schumer, a guy who seems to derive great pleasure from losing. She has him beat no question, but is she a more effective leader than Mitch McTurtle? I mean just in terms of wielding power to advance her party's agenda.
01-26-2019 , 03:51 AM
The Turtle doesn't deserve compliments on being a dictator slash the GOP on being sheep. And if the dems had similar levels of discipline it would generally not have been good.
01-26-2019 , 04:19 AM
Lol GOP discipline.

McCain thumb down skinny appeal.

Bohner publicly telling members to get in line.

The wildly inconsistent messaging even before Trump got elected.

Hell, even McConnels refusal to bring bill to a vote is a sign of distrust in his GOP colleagues to hold the line in an actual vote.

And Trump only folded because GOP senators folded first. Trump knows it’s to acquiesce here than to get forcibly rendered irrelevant.
01-26-2019 , 05:08 AM
Hilarious the way the shutdown temporarily ends on the same day Roger Stone is indicted.
01-26-2019 , 05:36 AM
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I feel Sarah is really going to hurt her dad Bernie’s run in 2020,
01-26-2019 , 07:51 AM
Is DS being a parody of himself?
01-26-2019 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jman220
It’s amazing to me how much hate this forum had for her, not 30 days ago, and how now she’s like second only to AOC and maybe BHO in terms of GPOAT. Granted she’s always been awesome and i’m old enough to remember 2006-2010, but it’s funny to watch everyone finally realize it.
I'm not sure there's as much of an inconsistency as you suggest. The context matters. Pelosi is doing a great job right now because she's right in her area of strength, which is navigating the procedural stuff in congress and applying pressure to the right people, etc. That's super valuable, and I don't think anyone was criticizing her for not being good enough at playing the political insider game. It's a whole separate thing to consider whether or not you want her as the face of the party from a retail politics perspective, which is where much of the criticism of her has been on the forum. People want a mobilizer to be the public face of the party at election time, and Pelosi is too much of an insider to fill that role.

All that to say - it's a different skill set to convince persuadable voters to show up to vote vs. applying the screws to congress critters. Let's applaud her for her yuge success giving Trump the first of what I hope will be many beatings, but let's not assume that means that she should be at the front of the party leading it into major elections.
01-26-2019 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Is DS being a parody of himself?
Intelligent people who supported Trump deal with the shame of being scammed different ways
01-26-2019 , 09:03 AM
He's going a bit crazy in the Elezra book thread too.
I've suggested somebody check the carbon monoxide detectors in his home.
01-26-2019 , 09:43 AM

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01-26-2019 , 09:48 AM
Literally whatabouting now. Pathetic.
01-26-2019 , 09:53 AM

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01-26-2019 , 09:55 AM
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01-26-2019 , 10:02 AM

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01-26-2019 , 10:07 AM

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01-26-2019 , 10:16 AM
Man, these caravan people really get cranking every time Trump needs them. It’s almost like people are always trying to flee crime ridden areas to improve their children’s future.
01-26-2019 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by realDonaldTrump

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what·a·bout·ism Dictionary
wədəˈboudizəm noun BRITISH
the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.


"the "president"appears to be involved in an exercise of whataboutism"
01-26-2019 , 10:24 AM

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01-26-2019 , 10:26 AM
Buckle up kids, we're off to the races!
01-26-2019 , 10:33 AM

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