The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter - Page 92 - Politics and Economics

"I am taking your family hostage. I will free them for $100 million"

"No, but what about $50 million?"

"Okay, deal! This shows I am a reasonable person capable of compromise. Also public support would have shifted towards me the longer I held your family hostage."

- what POGgers actually believe

Don’t loop all poggers in with the deplorables

A good number of this thread’s regulars are poggers...that forum just has a few bad seeds

01-09-2019 , 10:30 PM

#2278

metsandfinsfan

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Originally Posted by pudley4

Mets,

Go back to POG. This is where the adults discuss Trump

The guy plays well in the 3rd angel game one time 13 years agoand he thinks he's god

01-09-2019 , 10:32 PM

#2279

microbet

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

Republicans are cracking, dems are not. I can't see any conceivable way that trend will reverse. I guess Dems could try to work with some moderate Repubs to give Trump a way to save face but not give him the wall.

Money for funding courts to hear asylum cases. Money for housing unaccompanied minors in non-prisons, non-black sites. Money for health and education of unaccompanied minors and placement with family, foster families. That's something the Dems should propose.

They could also propose demolishing all the existing barriers and then compromise by agreeing to leave it as is.

01-09-2019 , 10:32 PM

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Its so adorable that anyone who supports a border is a deplorable

You aren't all better than that?

01-09-2019 , 10:35 PM

#2281

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

https://www-wtsp-com.cdn.ampproject....2F67-519361171

I blame trump for this not happening

But my point is the dems offered 25 billion for a wall 1 year ago. So saying 5 billion is unreasonable is silly

They won an election since then...

01-09-2019 , 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Its so adorable that anyone who supports a border is a deplorable

You aren't all better than that?

nope

01-09-2019 , 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Its so adorable that anyone who supports a border is a deplorable

You aren't all better than that?

There is one function of a wall; to be a massive beacon of racism and xenophobia.

It’s the literal definition of deplorable to support it.

01-09-2019 , 10:43 PM

#2284

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

They won an election since then...

Yes that's why he likely won't get 25 billion

But 25 billion was reasonable when then but 5 billion isn't now? You can't honestly say that's logical

01-09-2019 , 10:44 PM

#2285

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this guy read art of the deal obv guys

01-09-2019 , 10:44 PM

#2286

Grue

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Its so adorable that anyone who supports a border is a deplorable

You aren't all better than that?

Questions:

Is there a crises at the border?

Do illegal immigrants do more crimes than naturalized Americans?

Does 90% of illegal drugs come through our southern border?

Was Donald Trump's inauguration attended by more people than Barack Obama's first inauguration?

01-09-2019 , 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

There is one function of a wall; to be a massive beacon of racism and xenophobia.

It’s the literal definition of deplorable to support it.

We allow 1.2 million people to legally immigrate to the united states every single year

Id be in favor of that number increasing if we got control of illegal immigration

There is nothing racist or xenophobic about wanting to control your border.

At all

01-09-2019 , 10:48 PM

#2288

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The word crises is plural so there definitely isn't A crises

Probably not

Probably not

No

Still doesn't make a wall racist

01-09-2019 , 10:48 PM

#2289

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Ya it’s a total coincidence that you don’t care about our border (I’m Canadian) but are obsessed with the Mexican one.

Hmmm, what is different between those two? I can’t think of it.

01-09-2019 , 10:48 PM

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Control the border =! The Wall. FFS Democrats are bending over backward to give more money to agencies who let kids die in their care because those agencies protect the border. Border security is now like military spending where it's blasphemous to have spending go down.

Even then the wall is a bad idea

01-09-2019 , 10:51 PM

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“America should ‘build a wall of steel, a wall as high as Heaven’ against the flow of immigrants.-- Georgia Gov. Clifford Walker, at a 1924 convention of the Ku Klux Klan

01-09-2019 , 10:51 PM

#2292

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Its so adorable that anyone who supports a border is a deplorable

You aren't all better than that?

What is the actual path of the wall? What is the ecological impact of a wall? How much is maintenance going to cost? How many officers are going to be needed to patrol the wall? How many illegals is the wall going to stop?

How about you come up with more than a name and a design based on the last person Trump talked to and then it can be discussed. There are ways to have border security without a wall, but it would be nice there was an actual need shown for a wall besides a campaign promise.

01-09-2019 , 10:54 PM

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Border wall doesn't accomplish that. All it does is keep out the good illegals while the bad illegals still get in.

It's also a beacon of **** just like clovis stated.

01-09-2019 , 10:56 PM

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mets bringing up already debunked talking points from the 2011 Arizona immigration thread like he has something to say.

01-09-2019 , 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by microbet

“America should ‘build a wall of steel, a wall as high as Heaven’ against the flow of immigrants.-- Georgia Gov. Clifford Walker, at a 1924 convention of the Ku Klux Klan

At least those morons understood that the wall was a metaphor and not like a literal ****ing 2,000 mile fortification across a desert.

01-09-2019 , 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Unless I'm mistaken, if the quartet of Gardner/Collins/Murkowski/Capito really wanted to, they could announce that they were switching parties for a few days and force a vote on the house bill.

yeah, this happens in approximately 0 universes.
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who has more juice, Jared or Hannity?

As we know, Clean spending bills also can pass the senate. They just can't right now because Mitch doesn't want the president to face further embarrassment.<lol mitch>

One prominent influencer is already signing off.

01-09-2019 , 11:34 PM

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Lawyers,

Maddow reporting Mueller might wrap up next month. Are we going to see any of the Mueller report in our lifetimes or will it be secret forever?