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He stated that Trump would eventually say “Black Lives Matter” so no he just lucked out on low voter turnout. Trump still got 3 million fewer votes than his opponent. Incredible how the only people who don’t understand “right outcome but wrong process” on a poker forum are all Republicans.

I'm guessing he understood that the winner was not determined by popular vote though.

01-12-2018 , 01:13 PM

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ScreaminAsian

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he thought hillary had secret parkinsons and secret service were carrying epi pens to give her boosts to make it through appearances

01-12-2018 , 01:14 PM

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When Miller was 16 he jumped on the track at a girls HS meet to apparently race against them and show he was superior (they were at the end, he just started).

The mentality required to think of this much less actually do it is unreal.

01-12-2018 , 01:16 PM

#74654

Chippa58

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So...has Trump had his physical already today? Commonly, you want a fasting blood test for an exam like this one. There's no way he hasn't already inhaled a few big macs by now.

01-12-2018 , 01:17 PM

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oops

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/951865307987136512

01-12-2018 , 01:33 PM

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https://twitter.com/ReutersBiz/status/

01-12-2018 , 01:34 PM

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Not sure how much power Miller will have without Bannon's patronage. I can see Jarvaka making him the next guy to get thrown under the bus.

01-12-2018 , 01:35 PM

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These people are the worst. Say something. Walk out. Spineless goofs.

01-12-2018 , 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Not sure how much power Miller will have without Bannon's patronage. I can see Jarvaka making him the next guy to get thrown under the bus.

The thing is, Miller has always been more liked by Trump than Bannon. Miller was Trump's opening act on what Trump appears to think was the most successful tour in history. That said, doesn't mean Trump won't throw him under the bus.

Remember how Trump was going to pivot, and presumably he should be freaked out about the midterms, where he will absolutely face impeachment by the house (but probably not Senate conviction) if the GOP does not hold a majority. Like this is inevitable, he should be in panic mode. GOP House members are retiring at a record rate.

Well, it looks for the moment that the DACA deal is blowing up over Trump/Miller's petulant demands. The opposite of his public comments three days ago.

01-12-2018 , 01:43 PM

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3 Reasons Why Republicans Will Let the Rich Abuse the Tax Code

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The first major problem is that there’s no clear principle on who should be able to take advantage of these loopholes. Law professor Daniel Shaviro has argued that the law is so unreasoned and haphazard, so filled with random exemptions and carve-outs, that it will be nearly impossible for a regulator to determine who’s taking advantage of the tax code in ways contrary to legislative intent. Normally there would be a clear, detailed economic argument hashed out with expert advice for how to draw these lines, but that’s precisely what was missing from the tax debate. Shaviro writes that the economic theory underlying the tax law is “incoherent or nonexistent.”

The second problem is that the IRS has been defunded and drained of personnel for years. It also has very little time to fix any of these problems, and will be working at a breakneck pace to try and provide guidance for these new rules. At the same time, the IRS’s enforcement division has been disproportionately hit by funding and staffing reductions. Since 2010, the IRS has lost nearly a quarter of its enforcement staff. An underfunded IRS won’t just be ineffective; it will undermine the public’s trust that tax laws will be fairly enforced.

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The third major problem, as has been pointed out by The Wall Street Journal’s Richard Rubin, is that these loopholes will allow Republicans to manipulate the statistics and claim that their tax bill worked. Think through the consequences of someone replacing their normal job with a pass-through business that pays lower taxes: Less money is collected overall, but income normally collected from wages now counts as corporate income. No new activity takes place, and government revenue falls. Yet statistics will show that corporate income and taxes from corporations will have increased as a result of cutting corporate taxes, an outcome that Republicans will point to as the bill having “worked.”

People find the runaway incomes at the very top to be unfair. But what people hate even more is the idea of someone getting away with something. Unfortunately for us all, this tax code will only lead to more of both types of injustice.

https://www.thenation.com/article/3-...-the-tax-code/

01-12-2018 , 01:45 PM

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Paul Ryan finds Trumps comments "Unfortunate and unhelpful".

01-12-2018 , 01:49 PM

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It always warms my heart that awice Managed to bing both the election and Bitcoins and now is living flush despite being completely unhinged. Love it when the universe has a sense of humor.

01-12-2018 , 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by microbet

Wrongo.

I'm bent out of shape because you, a Bernie hater from the entire primary, dug out a year old tweet to lol Bernie. "I simply absurdly posted a tweet of his posted over a year ago in which he was absolutely wrong. That is all." is more like it.

You and whatshewhozeit are the only ones getting all broed out of shape. Sanders is a sitting senator and a leader in the current political world and I came across a tweet that was both amusing and frightening. Certainly didn’t make me go “Sanders 2020 yeah!”

Again if you want to argue that Sanders was correct in his statement, now, OR at the time he made it, give it a go, but it would be lol. I would have posted a similar quote I came across I hadn’t seen before by any high ranking Democrat, especially given at the time it happened and since was total nonsense.

01-12-2018 , 02:09 PM

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how many people were in the room? only durbin coming out to say its true?

Trump getting officially called out by a republican for being a racist liar would be neat

01-12-2018 , 02:10 PM

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Here we goooooo

01-12-2018 , 02:12 PM

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durbin said graham confronted trump about the comments... seems like reporters should keep asking him and settle it

01-12-2018 , 02:17 PM

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Trump saying this would probably give him a bump

01-12-2018 , 02:17 PM

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"He didn't say it but if he did who cares just calling it like it is!"

Is the new:

"He didn't fire Coney because of Russia but if he did it doesn't matter, president can't obstruct justice."

01-12-2018 , 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by businessdude

I'm guessing he understood that the winner was not determined by popular vote though.

No he said Trump would pivot and win over voters. He was wrong about everything except the end result. Read the quoted post above - guy legit thought Trump was a political savant.

01-12-2018 , 02:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epcfast

Father in law is a UK deplorable who has just been frothing at the mouth ranting about how disgraceful it is that we are banning Trump from entering the UK and that we should be welcoming him with open arms as we do most of our trade with you?
Also called London Mayor Sadiq Khan a disgrace presumably because he is brown.

The US is Britain's second largest trading partner, ranking some way behind the EU.

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The EU, taken as a whole is the UK’s largest trading partner. In 2016, UK exports tothe EU were £236 billion (43% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were£318 billion (54% of all UK imports).

http://researchbriefings.files.parli...1/CBP-7851.pdf

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It’s correct that the US is the UK’s second largest trading partner after the EU, if you combine together the value of imports and exports.

America is also the UK’s second largest export market. It accounted for 19% of the value of UK exports in 2016/17, second only to the EU as a whole, which bought 44% of UK exports.

It's also the second largest import market in 2016/17. 11% of the value of our imports came from the US, compared to 53% from the rest of the EU.

https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-trade-usa/

Trump hasn't of course been banned from Britain, he just doesn't want to come. He's afraid of protests, not as a security threat but as an affront to his ego, and he's annoyed that most of Parliament, including the Speaker of the Commons, said they'd stay away if he gave an address.

Sir Christopher Meyer, former ambassador to the US, told the BBC today that Trump doesn't want to cut the ribbon on the new US embassy in London because he doesn't like the State Department anyway and he doesn't see what's in it for him, he wouldn't get any kudos, just protests, so he can't be bothered to make the trip. Effectively, he's in a huff and he's sulking in his room.

01-12-2018 , 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

durbin said graham confronted trump about the comments... seems like reporters should keep asking him and settle it

What do you mean "settle it." If Descartes were rewriting the Meditations he could add that Trump made the comments to "I think therefore I am" as a proposition that it is impossible to doubt.

01-12-2018 , 02:23 PM

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if graham denies trump said it I might have a stroke

01-12-2018 , 02:24 PM

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Scott (the other SC senator) has already stated Graham told him the report was accurate.

In other words, Graham will deny that happened.

01-12-2018 , 02:26 PM

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https://twitter.com/Gramiq/status/951650901403619328

https://twitter.com/mcnitwit/status/951816504894480389

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01-12-2018 , 02:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by miller62

To be fair, it was equally unnecessary to randomly bring up a Bernie tweet from 2016. He was definitely wrong. What's your point? That he isn't some kind of all knowing deity figure? Great insight.

Yeah, it took an all knowing deity to understand the racial element to the Trump campaign in 2016. I think liberals being delusional/stupid at best or lying about what Trump was because it benefited them personally is fine to call out now. Especially if these clowns somehow view the Trump election as vindication for their views.

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