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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

03-17-2018 , 02:37 AM
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“But at some point, this has to be seen in the larger context,” said McCabe, 49, who says he has voted for every Republican presidential nominee until he sat out the 2016 contest entirely. “And I firmly believe that this is an ongoing effort to undermine my credibility because of the work that I did on the Russia case, because of the investigations that I oversaw and impacted that target this administration.”
Man votes for face eating leopards, gets face eaten.
03-17-2018 , 02:44 AM
Just posting to lol at the graphic. Has to come from the motherland. [Fake Assange account, obv]


https://twitter.com/TheRealJuIian/st...97545859117056
03-17-2018 , 02:44 AM
Swalwell bringing heat

03-17-2018 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Welp, that's the hottest take I've seen all week.
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Originally Posted by GTO2.0
Is this an accurate summary?

McCabe, and presumably several other like minded people in the FBI, felt they were getting pressured by Obama DOJ to close or sit on the Hilary email investigation prior to the election. McCabe is involved in/authorizes disclosing to the press that the Hilary investigation is still active.

After Comey is fired, McCabe is identified as a witness who will corroborate Comeys allegations. Trump pressures OIG to investigate McCabe, and finds he was unethical in disclosing info re Hilary investigation. Trump cites this to fire McCabe.

So he tried, in his mind, to “do the right thing” by standing up to a politicized DOJ by setting the record straight on Hilary, only to get canned by an even more corrupt and politicized DOJ?
It was the hottest take.
03-17-2018 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Swalwell bringing heat
High heat, good tweet.
03-17-2018 , 03:00 AM
Swalwell en fuego.


https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/stat...32072945782792

"he cowers like a boy, but to sing for his supper he thinks he’s acting like a man doing this"
03-17-2018 , 03:04 AM
I don't understand why all Dem politicians aren't talking/tweeting like that
03-17-2018 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
The game just got real serious for them. It's about way more than 130k or some book deal now. Whether possible or not, Stormy and her lawyer probably believe they have a shot of being the ones who take Trump down. They could be feeling the weight of the world here.

Given Trump's silence on the matter and his hiring of the expensive and serious new (Hulk Hogan) attorney, he believes there's a real threat as well.
They do seem civic minded.
03-17-2018 , 04:03 AM
One thing. Make sure you have a record, screenshots, saved tweets, FB posts, etc. of the people you know who support Trump. In five years they will deny it. They will claim they always knew Trump was a criminal and a moron. Unless they have publicly withdrawn their support or made an apology, remind them of what they stood for and who they supported.

There are many tweets supporting firing McCabe. Plenty are bots and such, but many are real people, basically the guys who were cheering when Nixon fired Archibald Cox. Make sure there is a paper trail.

Does making a record seem mean or cruel? These are people who are undermining the country and actively working to injure other people and damage the US at home and abroad, being lead by lying, racist conman. Don't let them forget.

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03-17-2018 , 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
One thing. Make sure you have a record, screenshots, saved tweets, FB posts, etc. of the people you know who support Trump. In five years they will deny it. They will claim they always knew Trump was a criminal and a moron. Unless they have publicly withdrawn their support or made an apology, remind them of what they stood for and who they supported.

There are many tweets supporting firing McCabe. Plenty are bots and such, but many are real people, basically the guys who were cheering when Nixon fired Archibald Cox. Make sure there is a paper trail.

Does making a record seem mean or cruel? These are people who are undermining the country and actively working to injure other people and damage the US at home and abroad, being lead by lying, racist conman. Don't let them forget.
Don't let us forget... LOL
03-17-2018 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Grue
so I'll be the first to say it: wtf at retiring at age 50 after 20 years of work with a pension of 1.5m in 2018??
Do you even public sector bro?
03-17-2018 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
One thing. Make sure you have a record, screenshots, saved tweets, FB posts, etc. of the people you know who support Trump. In five years they will deny it. They will claim they always knew Trump was a criminal and a moron. Unless they have publicly withdrawn their support or made an apology, remind them of what they stood for and who they supported.

There are many tweets supporting firing McCabe. Plenty are bots and such, but many are real people, basically the guys who were cheering when Nixon fired Archibald Cox. Make sure there is a paper trail.

Does making a record seem mean or cruel? These are people who are undermining the country and actively working to injure other people and damage the US at home and abroad, being lead by lying, racist conman. Don't let them forget.
Chiefsplanet is pretty sure they never complained about Obama golfing and you must have them mixed up with some other forum.
03-17-2018 , 04:32 AM
Yes Trump is being petty and vindictive firing him 24 hrs before his benefits kick in but you guys do realize he stepped down over a month ago right? If he didn't step down when he did he would have been fired then. Which brings me to my next point, none of you besides adios are talking about the egregious things he actually did. The FBI's own committee recommended that he be fired! And here you all are again trying to connect everything back to Russia.

We are now months into the Mueller investigation that has found no hard evidence of any type of Trump collusion, and Mueller is so desperate that hes now trying to get his hands on Trump Organization records. I'm sure if he's allowed to comb through all the TO info he will find something illegal (just like he would find something if he combed through all of the Clinton Foundation records), but it's probably not going to connect in any way to Russia.

Most of you in here have gotten so worked up in the past year that you will actually be disappointed if Mueller finds no Russia link.
03-17-2018 , 04:42 AM
I care because I am deathly afraid of Trump (or more likely Trump 2.0) weaponizing the FBI/CIA/NSA. If that happens it's GG democracy. Losing your pension a day before retirement is certainly a way to send a chilling message to other career employees that they better snap into place.

Just like Putin only needs to poison a dissident a year or so to scare the **** out of 1000s of potential dissidents.

Are FBI employees choir boys? Of course not. But this is scary ****:



It's hopelessly naive to think the FBI would just go away or clean up its act once Trump purges all his enemies. The machinery is still in place and it would be laser focused on political enemies.
03-17-2018 , 04:46 AM
He will be just fine. Right in the middle of his work on the Hillary email investigation his wife got a nice 700k political donation from some questionable sources lets just say. This might have been during the 30 days he kept Comey completely in the dark about a bunch of new emails that had been found on a laptop which caused Comey to announce the case was reopened, I can't say for sure.

Last edited by beastalamode; 03-17-2018 at 04:50 AM. Reason: responding to mike not suz obv
03-17-2018 , 04:57 AM
Of course most of us would rather see him collect the pension due to him vs. Trump destroy democracy from within. Stop gaslighting.

03-17-2018 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by beastalamode
Yes Trump is being petty and vindictive firing him 24 hrs before his benefits kick in but you guys do realize he stepped down over a month ago right? If he didn't step down when he did he would have been fired then. Which brings me to my next point, none of you besides adios are talking about the egregious things he actually did. The FBI's own committee recommended that he be fired! And here you all are again trying to connect everything back to Russia.

We are now months into the Mueller investigation that has found no hard evidence of any type of Trump collusion, and Mueller is so desperate that hes now trying to get his hands on Trump Organization records. I'm sure if he's allowed to comb through all the TO info he will find something illegal (just like he would find something if he combed through all of the Clinton Foundation records), but it's probably not going to connect in any way to Russia.

Most of you in here have gotten so worked up in the past year that you will actually be disappointed if Mueller finds no Russia link.
Yawn.

I'll be disappointed if Mueller comes up empty. Especially since he already found a bunch of **** so far.

Also, your 2nd paragraph makes it sound like they'll have to dig really deep to find Trump crimes. LOL Trump does crimes right in front of our eyes, even on Twitter and in TV interviews. And equivocating with Clinton? Anything Trumpists complain about Clinton, Obama, et al doing after 4 or 8 years, Trump did many times over in just 6 months.

But you probably know all this already and don't care.
03-17-2018 , 05:02 AM
IP check on beastalamode vs MikeyZ
03-17-2018 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pvn
McCabe still gets his pension, doesn't he? Only he'll just collect 99.99% instead of 100%? It can't possibly be a all-or-nothing proposition, that would be an insane way to structure a retirement plan.
Defined benefit pension plans are more generous if you retire from active service than if you leave employment before retirement eligibility.

McCabe, as a 20+ year FBI agent, would be a participant in the Federal civil service plan. FBI agents with 20 years of service are eligible to start their pension at age 50. So if he resigned or quit on or after age 50, he would start collecting a pension that month and get a pension every month for the rest of his life.

Typically Federal employees that leave employment before retirement eligibility are able to start their pensions at age 60 if they have 20 years of service at the time they leave. I suspect that is what he will be eligible for.

In conclusion, he will not lose his whole pension. As you suggest, pension benefits are vested and can't be taken away. But by firing him a day before his early retirement eligibility it means he can't start the pension for 10 more years. What he loses is 10 years of pension payments. He'll still receive payments from age 60 to whenever he dies.

For someone at his level and length of service, he'll probably get a pension of ball park $50,000 per year. So this move will cost him about a half a million dollars.
03-17-2018 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
Says the guy who has been exiled from an entire forum.

I was contained by a mod with a petty grudge. Apart from that, OOT is a complete ****hole full of old republicans and middle aged weirdos. They hate you too btw, so you dont get any bonus points for this
03-17-2018 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by beastalamode
Most of you in here have gotten so worked up in the past year that you will actually be disappointed if Mueller finds no Russia link.
Trump would be impeached without Russia if the Republicans weren't a total embarrassment
03-17-2018 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
https://twitter.com/mccaffreyr3/stat...176941056?s=19
try to sound more surprised about it bro, we've only known this for like a year already
03-17-2018 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
I’ll bet $50 on the opposite of that. For sure.
booked
03-17-2018 , 07:04 AM
I'd get Keed to escrow.
03-17-2018 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
does his mentioning in the opening of his statement that he spent 10 years investigating russian organized crime in nyc read as interesting to anyone else?
ya, seems like a dramatic implication and one that is 100% intentional

      
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