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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

01-18-2018 , 11:41 PM
Trump acting like a 5 year old whose mother told him he can't eat candy for breakfast.

Last edited by SuperUberBob; 01-18-2018 at 11:41 PM. Reason: referring to corvette's post
01-18-2018 , 11:43 PM
I smiled warmly at inauguration anniversary dinner.
01-18-2018 , 11:45 PM
It would have to be dementia don, right?
01-18-2018 , 11:49 PM
Still think Mafia Don is most appropriate.
01-18-2018 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
It would have to be dementia don, right?
That's a winner. Wasn't there a crazy guy that Rachel was dating on Friends that screamed "dumb Donald dodo' at Joey and Chandler's duck? We could go with that as a backup.

P.S. If you've never seen it, you should now google 'Little Donnie Drumpf' for a good laugh.
01-18-2018 , 11:55 PM
FLAKE says he's doesn't want this CR. Wants a couple day CR to write the text of an immigration bill and add it to any CR after that (Schumer's proposal). Republicans might not end up with 40 votes
01-18-2018 , 11:56 PM
01-18-2018 , 11:57 PM
I really wish someone in the media would tweet some of his older tweets as their own to bait him into an argument with himself.
01-19-2018 , 12:38 AM
Some racist ******** was on Tucker Carlson's program saying that at least white supremacists are legal citizens. We are seriously living in 1936 Germany.
01-19-2018 , 12:41 AM
The State of the Union is going to be a trainwreck.

No way Trump can stay on script for an hour. He'll almost certainly ramble incoherently for most of that time with intermittent standing ovations from the GOP despite their not-so-subtle disdain of him.
01-19-2018 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
Some racist ******** was on Tucker Carlson's program saying that at least white supremacists are legal citizens. We are seriously living in 1936 Germany.
Posted this in TVCC thread, but he also had a congressman on who claimed ISIS was behind the LV shooting. Everything Trump does is so awful they have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for content.


https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/s...66890330558465
01-19-2018 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
The State of the Union is going to be a trainwreck.

No way Trump can stay on script for an hour. He'll almost certainly ramble incoherently for most of that time with intermittent standing ovations from the GOP despite their not-so-subtle disdain of him.
Over/under on number of sniffles? Number of times he struggles to keep his dentures in his mouth and sounds like he has a stroke?
01-19-2018 , 12:59 AM


https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/951582090318970880
01-19-2018 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by corvette24
That's a winner. Wasn't there a crazy guy that Rachel was dating on Friends that screamed "dumb Donald dodo' at Joey and Chandler's duck? We could go with that as a backup.

P.S. If you've never seen it, you should now google 'Little Donnie Drumpf' for a good laugh.
ben stiller, iirc

and he'd just had his hands pooped in or something

Last edited by Loki; 01-19-2018 at 01:01 AM. Reason: no one believed ross when he said the guy was a maniac until that moment
01-19-2018 , 01:02 AM
looks like the right wing derpers have picked up on this. I for one can't wait to see what kind of nonsense Nunes and co have whipped together.



edit to add: fox news article about this. Sounds like this memo will become public in the next few days. Though not about Muller directly, this certainly looks like a major partisan counterattack to the special prosecutor.

Last edited by Klingbard; 01-19-2018 at 01:14 AM.
01-19-2018 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Exactly.

You can also spot a racist not by what they say but by what they don't say. Upon hearing about the ****house statements, my mother pulled an obvious whataboutism by comparing something Bill Clinton said about immigration in 1995 to what Trump said in 2017 rather than address what he said. A few of her friends liked with commenting.

Despite her mother (my grandmother) being a first-generation immigrant who was discriminated against, she still holds those same discriminatory stereotypes.

It's super weird that when I see Trump supporters being deplorables on Facebook, they post memes and selectively edited videos without comment rather than actually input their opinion. It's like they don't even have their own opinions.
LOLOL I got the same video from trumpy former colleague. Must have been going around chiefsnation or w/e
01-19-2018 , 02:09 AM
I saw a new meme today from some group called Libtards are Hypocrites or something like that saying "Kids eating Tide pods will be voting in the next election."

It's just hilarious how the deplorables get so easily triggered.
01-19-2018 , 02:10 AM

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/s...32702676488192
01-19-2018 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
What nickname would Trump assign himself?

Disgusting Donald
Demented Donnie
Degenerate Don

etc.
Traitor Don
01-19-2018 , 02:52 AM
The Real Donald
01-19-2018 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/s...32702676488192
This analysis frequently missed the point. I think the RAND paper *touches* on it:

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What Causes Truth Decay?

Four drivers, or causes, of Truth Decay are described: cognitive bias, changes in the information system (including the rise of social media and the 24-hour news cycle), competing demands on the educational system that limit its ability to keep pace with changes in the information system, and political, sociodemographic, and economic polarization. Various agents also amplify Truth Decay's trends.
Education has always been slow to adapt. Our cognitive biases are universal. What's changed? The bolded.

The modern 'truth decay' is the manifestation of a political divide. It's a response to political anxieties; specifically, it's a solution to them.

We won't solve a rejection of facts, of reality, of institutions by doubling down on inundating people with facts, hectoring them about empirics, about epistemology, whatever.

It's a political problem that requires a political solution. Since the thing the soft liberal center left seems to hate most in the world IS politics and they instead want to win on procedural and factual basis, we'll get endless explainers and 300 page pdfs while the world burns.

Better is to give people a political solution and a story to explain their anxieties and solve their problems. That can involve facts, but the necessary truth of the world is that facts don't align precisely or neatly and humans have an innate desire for something coherent and a way to represent those facts into a framework they can understand.

Glibly, back to RAND:

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Recommendations

Unraveling the Complex System of Truth Decay Will Require Multifaceted and Interdisciplinary Efforts

- Interdisciplinary research and cooperation among research organizations, policymakers, educators, and other stakeholders will be necessary to shed light on the problem of Truth Decay and to develop a clearer understanding of the problem and devise possible solutions.
The liberal wants nothing more than to witness the failure of policy technocrats and suggest ever more technocracy.

Instead, tell people what their institutions ****ing do for them, tell them how their states, their communities, their own organizations that they themselves create and participate can make practical and meaningful improvements in their lives, identify who their enemies are and who stands in the way to progress, and then organize to make the vision happen and defeat the people who seek to undermine it.

Last edited by DVaut1; 01-19-2018 at 03:39 AM.
01-19-2018 , 03:50 AM
I only skimmed the paper but it seemed to be promoting a both sides argument about truth decay which I don't think stands up to a shred of scrutiny. Time and time again polling shows that Republicans believe all kinds of nonsensical crap and Democrats largely don't.

I'm not saying many of the trends in the article aren't valuable to look at. But if you're going to do an analysis of truth decay, isn't it helpful to point out that truth is decaying on one side a helluva lot faster?
01-19-2018 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Mulvaney requests zero funding for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

I guess it doesn't cost a lot to run it into the ground
I really don't understand politics.

How can something that is designed to protect consumers be a bad thing?

Is the regulation they are talking about that is killing so many jobs?
01-19-2018 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pk_nuts
I really don't understand politics.

How can something that is designed to protect consumers be a bad thing?

Is the regulation they are talking about that is killing so many jobs?
Yeah this is pretty naive. How can something design to protect consumers be a bad thing? Imagine you make a living off of preying on them, scamming them, putting poisons in their water and air, etc. You aren't going to like consumer protections very much and you will want them to go away. You and your other rich friends might also collude to fund a huge political apparatus up to and including one of the major political parties in the US to ensure that happens.
01-19-2018 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JoltinJake
I only skimmed the paper but it seemed to be promoting a both sides argument about truth decay which I don't think stands up to a shred of scrutiny. Time and time again polling shows that Republicans believe all kinds of nonsensical crap and Democrats largely don't.

I'm not saying many of the trends in the article aren't valuable to look at. But if you're going to do an analysis of truth decay, isn't it helpful to point out that truth is decaying on one side a helluva lot faster?
As I said, think tank liberals, centrists and disinterested technocrats spot a political problem and suggest technocracy. To harp too much on the political nature of the problem would be illuminating, as you say, but presumably not fit their interests/tastes in generating more interdisciplinary research.

      
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