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11-22-2017 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
Tomorrow will be your first big test. Because the Trumpkins in your family ARE going to stand for the National Anthem during football even though they never gave 2 ****s about it in the past.
Ive played it in the breakroom at work for one guy who said he stands at home...
11-22-2017 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Link didn't work for me.
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The former head of a U.S. government ethics watchdog said on Wednesday he had filed a complaint claiming senior White House adviser Kellyanne Conway violated a law barring executive branch employees from engaging in political activity when she spoke on television against a Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate
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https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.re.../idUSKBN1DM2JH
11-22-2017 , 08:51 PM
Rig the toilet seat so it plays the anthem whenever it gets pressure. That's the real patriot test.
11-22-2017 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson


Read the replies, it's amazing. Forcing people to be cut off from the family and friends is 100% how cults operate.
This guy is tweeting non-stop about how great Trump is and how bad "libs" and Democrats are, retweeting memes and pro-Trump tweets. He's being cheered on by people who do the exact same thing, tweeting non-stop the same rhetoric.

He's following 125k people, wtf? What kind of people are these? Are these actual people with jobs, a family and is he actually ranting 24/7 about politics? Are they paid to do this? This reminds me of these sketchy twitter accounts like: https://imgur.com/gallery/6flYH

That whole twitter world is one big enigma for me.
11-22-2017 , 09:14 PM
following 125k has to mean hes a bot account?
11-22-2017 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BoterSmoter
This guy is tweeting non-stop about how great Trump is and how bad "libs" and Democrats are, retweeting memes and pro-Trump tweets. He's being cheered on by people who do the exact same thing, tweeting non-stop the same rhetoric.

He's following 125k people, wtf? What kind of people are these? Are these actual people with jobs, a family and is he actually ranting 24/7 about politics? Are they paid to do this? This reminds me of these sketchy twitter accounts like: https://imgur.com/gallery/6flYH

That whole twitter world is one big enigma for me.
Botting.
11-22-2017 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
JFC, I just want a normal Thanksgiving where I don't have to talk to my racist aunt and uncle about LaVar Ball.
Show him a picture of Joe Barton’s cock and then whisper “excuse me I need to use the bathroom” then wink.
11-22-2017 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
The hilarious part is traffic is horrific today.

He's literally taking credit for bad traffic.
Most of his zealots can't afford to fly anyway. They'll just take his word for it.
11-22-2017 , 10:33 PM
There are 800 news stories and Maddow is rambling about squat. Sheesh lady I realize you want to set yourself apart but c’mon.
11-22-2017 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbo
IN FACT, FORGET BEING PRESIDENT.
11-23-2017 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
This is like the 10th "Conway may have violated Hatch Act" incident.
11-23-2017 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Welp,

Maybe next year.

We’ll all give thanks to Mueller if next year is Trump free
11-23-2017 , 01:12 AM
Meh, the Hatch Act is largely toothless. Conway will get a stern warning and not much more imo.
11-23-2017 , 01:27 AM
Meh, let the ****ing lawless weasels run roughshod over our balls on the daily. It’s not like anyone is ever going do **** about ****ing cock ass mother ****ing **** ass penis cockkjofkoroijkjjiojg4jkoogrtiojjgiotjiogroijftjoi coie8rc88f558idjoir3ijocijo4ruojoujf3oj8f5j8oojiio jiojzwijodjiejiofijogt4ijougj6o58jo6gijo6eiojvjiio jtevoijvteouhojvtioejvjvjteijvitejviotejoijv4to8jv jgeojgetigjietojgiteilj8gj6o48g648o46p9kv9pkvetp,V on;elvvetfp;get/‘;v/vetij7gx64hjrgjiv4tjig/icky.f.uckjocoifejiojvfejioiojvtejioijotvijoetgioj iojetvijovetjiotevji06e8gj08j9ujgoteoujtgujoujvotr ujotrvujortvuojrtvujotrvujorvutojujotrvuojrtvjutjd 8v8jvtd8oj8uv4068ug580jv5e085j68egj806gej086egj08e g6j8g6ejo8ge68joj8otgej8o8oejtg8jogj8oe8tojg8teotr ump
11-23-2017 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroPimpin
Ball should tweet "Whose gonna get your son out of jail? to Trump
This would tilt the **** out of the orange moron.
11-23-2017 , 03:24 AM
I need to prep for tomorrow. Can anyone give a cliff’s notes of Uranium One and any other “scandals” floating around the derposphere?
11-23-2017 , 05:29 AM
Just for a laugh, ask them to explain Uranium One to you and report back with what their explanation was. Admittedly it will probably just be "Hillary got bribed to sell all our uranium to the Russians". The explanation of why this is not true is far too long and boring for deplorables, their eyes will glaze over three words in, but for the record:

Things which are true

- A Russian company acquired Uranium One, which includes 20% of uranium production capacity in the US
- Executives from this company at one point made large donations to the Clinton Foundation
- Clinton was Secretary of State when the deal was approved

Things which are not true

Basically everything else which would need to be true for this to be a scandal. In particular:

- No uranium from Uranium One operations has ever gone to Russia
- Nine departments had to sign off on the deal, not just State
- Clinton was not personally involved in the decision at all
- The idea that the donations were a quid pro quo for the deal doesn't work chronologically
11-23-2017 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MrFeelNothin
I need to prep for tomorrow. Can anyone give a cliff’s notes of Uranium One and any other “scandals” floating around the derposphere?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnsAZzsdI1U&t=309s
11-23-2017 , 10:28 AM
11-23-2017 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Looool, the President of the United States campaigning for a confirmed pedophile. This is my country. I really have lived in this place all my life.
Ive never been the most patriotic person or anything like that. I read enough books growing up about some of this countries atrocities and social issues to understand that the country really has some black marks.

but we really get indoctrinated from a young age in a very thorough and effective way to truly believe that this is a special country. land of the free. american values.

but its all bs. from the beginning it was bs. our "founding fathers" where all scumbag slave owners that just wanted to save money on taxes and continue to get free labor.

dvaut says it a lot better than me but the true values of the country is racial division and suppression, a murderous police state, violence, gun culture, and exploitative big business. if you look at the history of the country, those, and proly some others, trend from the beginning.
11-23-2017 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Ive never been the most patriotic person or anything like that. I read enough books growing up about some of this countries atrocities and social issues to understand that the country really has some black marks.

but we really get indoctrinated from a young age in a very thorough and effective way to truly believe that this is a special country. land of the free. american values.

but its all bs. from the beginning it was bs. our "founding fathers" where all scumbag slave owners that just wanted to save money on taxes and continue to get free labor.

dvaut says it a lot better than me but the true values of the country is racial division and suppression, a murderous police state, violence, gun culture, and exploitative big business. if you look at the history of the country, those, and proly some others, trend from the beginning.
Word.

A major problem is that people conflate being anti-nationalist with being anti-American which is not the case. This happens due to people conflating the American government with American ideals. Contrary to what we are told, they are not the same and you can criticize one without necessarily attacking the other. I would go as far as to say that American ideals contradict American actions.

There's also a distinction between nationalism and patriotism that few people make. Nationalism is support for government institutions whereas patriot is support for a set of ideas related to a country. You can be a patriot without being a nationalist. I believe that I fall into that category.

To me, there is nothing more anti-American than supporting Donald Trump. Yet, his supporters are so delusional as to think the opposite.

These are of course subsets of the overarching problem with national discourse which is that there is no nuance in serious discussion. Everything is reduced to its simplest form. If you listen to people's opinions, they are rarely longer than soundbites off of cable news and contain the type of taglines you see on bumper stickers. The process of dumbing down has led to the rejection of nuance and the rise of anti-intellectualism. This is not a partisan problem either. I wouldn't call it bipartisan either. This is a problem that affects everybody regardless of political alignment.

The ultimate solution is supposed to be the liberation of information. People like Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning coming forward are supposed to benefit America in the long run because it temporarily stops the government from controlling political discourse. Like Thomas Jefferson said, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Unfortunately, people are no longer accepting information that contradicts their worldview. I remember watching a TED Talk on the dangers of science denial and I think it now applies to political discourse as well. Its optimism is a bit outdated (it's from 2010) but the theme of denial of information without analysis still rings true. It's one of the few TED talks worth seeing if you haven't yet.

Last edited by SuperUberBob; 11-23-2017 at 11:18 AM.
11-23-2017 , 11:16 AM
“We will build the WALL.”

Trump supporters are such rubes. I’m sure they believe this and I’m sure their racist little hearts still yearn for a wall.

The WALL is a symbol of Trump’s overwhelming impotence.
11-23-2017 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Ive never been the most patriotic person or anything like that. I read enough books growing up about some of this countries atrocities and social issues to understand that the country really has some black marks.



but we really get indoctrinated from a young age in a very thorough and effective way to truly believe that this is a special country. land of the free. american values.



but its all bs. from the beginning it was bs. our "founding fathers" where all scumbag slave owners that just wanted to save money on taxes and continue to get free labor.



dvaut says it a lot better than me but the true values of the country is racial division and suppression, a murderous police state, violence, gun culture, and exploitative big business. if you look at the history of the country, those, and proly some others, trend from the beginning.


It all started with genocide
11-23-2017 , 11:28 AM
Trump talks about how great the stock market is doing to both the coast guard and the army because of course he does, not to mention asks the coast guard if they have any questions about the economy/stock market or "things like that".
11-23-2017 , 11:29 AM
Partiotism and nationalism are just fancy names for very basic bigotries. As political arguments they are the first refuges of fools with nothing substantive to say.

      
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