People who shoot elephants are scum. Gonna carry some serious jail time when I'm Dictator For Life.

Not that I'm saying that you're saying that Orwell is a scum, but I'm reminded of this short essay which most of you have probably read, but it's worth a reread anyway.

http://orwell.ru/library/articles/el...nglish/e_eleph

Do kids still watch this movie? It should be on the mandatory viewing list.

Gee, I wonder why that could be. What somewhat recent world event that many of us Jews have relatives who are still alive to remember has some similarities with what's going on with Trump and the alt-right right now...

Just complaining about the Jews you know in a way that can't help but be interpreted as a broad generalization...

The article cited doesn't actually show some great swell of anti-Trump feeling among Jews. All it says is that Jewish people vote Democrat. Trump got 24% among Jewish voters, which is more than the less obviously racist Bush in 2000 (19%) and McCain in 2008 (21%).

he's only used to drinking from a coke can

My point was merely the assertion in this thread that Jews uniformly voted against Trump was incorrect. Seems like the one making a broad generalization here is you, tbh.

In the poll bobman posted ~25% of Jews voted for Trump. That sounds about right.

How is it being interpreted anyway? I’m literally just describing my experience as a [secular] Jewish person whose family mostly associated with other Jewish people though i do not myself, eesh. If I didn’t know better yes I’d assume a large portion of Jewish voters in America voted Trump based on both that experience and the fact that Israel seems pretty fond of Trump comparatively to other nations. But no, I’m not here challenging pretty much every piece of data that contradicts what I’ve seen in my life, since i understand my experience is limited; someone like my brother who lives in LA and has contact with lots of young Jewish people in Hollywood and their families or my wife who went to Jew camp in CA might say different. I’m glad that you and microbet say otherwise because I’ve always thought it was crazy that Jewish people would lean Republican or even consider voting for Trump. I also know a lot of physicians who voted for Trump yet they’re another demographic that seems to have gone strongly Clinton, which is again what I’d expect.

Anyway we can drop the derail or people can keep challenging my life experience, if they so choose. Maybe I should also clarify the “complaining” is me being disappointed that I happen to have had a lot of experience with Jewish people being Conservative (politically) while I’ve always leaned the other way and it’s one of the things that has possibly pushed me away from the Jewish community. It should not be interpreted in any other way, sorry.

Mi5 or British Intelligence is the best in the world and far ahead of the CIA in terms of quallity of work.

Other dude pointed this out, but it's mostly just Jews largely vote Democrats.

You should role the tape. The assertion was that few groups voted more against Trump than Jews, not that every Jew voted against Trump or even that Jews were the most anti-Trump.

71/25 is a huge margin btw. It's not close.

Afaic everything you said is all good. The only thing I'd say about why the Jews who voted for Trump is to repeat from the last post, The D/R split was pretty consistent with previous elections. Most Rs voted R and most Ds voted D, regardless of the candidates.

Agreed

This the assertion to which I was referring. I mean, this is a pretty strong statement and I was merely making the point that it is not as widespread as your statement implies.

Trust me, I WISH I didn't know any Jews, much less quite a few of them, who voted for Trump (and still support him). It drives me ****ing crazy. I don't get it.

I enjoy how "phone calls" and "cell phone calls" are separate things.

Lol'd.

Maybe now that he's succeeded in all his goals, he can retire?

Exactly my point as well

Every single person in my family, all non-work friends and almost all work friends hate Trump.

Part luck, Part skill.

I still haven't decided if I have any family members who like Trump. No friends tho.

Other than the aforementioned group (older Jews including my parents), I doubt i associate with more than 1-2 Trumpers, not including work acquaintances. We’re long past “with us or against us” as it is so it’s not like I would choose to stay friends with genuine Trumpers at this point l.

I have one sibling who is a low info Facebook Libertarian, Ron/Rand Paul devotee who openly admits she likes conspiracy theories, so of course she supports Trump. Everybody else is vehemently opposed, including the lifelong Republican gun owner and the two members of law enforcement.

You guys run good, I live in cali and had several people I had to cut off being trumpers. And my dad is one of the chief planet types. He still sends me stuff about Roy Moore being a democratic plot :|

Haven't talked to him since fox news started to turn though so we'll see.

Also I don't even run in the type of circles you'd expect to find trumpers, I play poker and hang out with ultra hippies at festivals who camped out during occupy and voted bernie. The schmucks seem unavoidable to me.

I did have a S-in-law who I think is Trumpy, but she and my brother are divorced. His new significant other got a Trump piñata for a party last year which was beaten and burned.

Lots of extended family in rural OH who love Trump. We don't talk. Not because Trump, just because we have an unspoken agreement to avoid interacting that dates to the Clinton administration.

My aunt and uncle are fervent Trumpers. They are seriously lunatics. I'm going to send my uncle an "all holidays matter" sweater for Christmas I think.