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10-21-2017 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
You're joking, but surely you've seen this before:
Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield View Post
Russia actually has nukes they could use on us, partly in thanks to Clintons helping them do a Uranium Deal.


Gotta be a contender for the dumbest post in 2p2 history.
10-21-2017 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
"The check is in the mail!"

https://twitter.com/AP/status/921919296078573570
IANAL, but wouldn't this type of arranged present a potential conflict interest to the aide's attorney such that the attorney couldn't ethically agree to such an arrangement.

I don't know the answer, but I assume some of the lawyers around here probably do.
10-21-2017 , 11:06 PM
I'm torn because I totally agree with All-In Flynn in spirit but I made sure I was in Chicago to vote HRC for no other reason than to run up the popvote score against trump (mission accomplished!) so I dunno.

I looked at it AS A 'wasted' protest vote, a protest against trump (so not 'wasted').
10-21-2017 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
I'm torn because I totally agree with All-In Flynn in spirit but I made sure I was in Chicago to vote HRC for no other reason than to run up the popvote score against trump (mission accomplished!) so I dunno.

I looked at it AS A protest vote, a protest against trump.
You voted your conscience, that's fully commendable.
10-21-2017 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
wat? the more people who (plan to) vote 3rd party, no matter where they live, the more pervasive the ridiculous idea that protest votes are ok becomes. voting 3rd party is/was just dumb, it's not a defensible action.


Rachel had a quote the night of the election

The man idea was

This was a two person election, if you voted for someone who can’t win you are an *******


Not a direct quote
10-21-2017 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
You voted your conscience, that's fully commendable.


Most elections I agree.

However, when Donald ****ing trump is the opponent, you vote for the only person who can defeat him. If you don’t, you’re an *******
10-21-2017 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
wait wat
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Yeah, WTF is that?

It's probably Eisenhower, right?
Yeah, Eisenhower. He ended the Korean War 6 months into office. He helped overthrow the government in Iran, but that wouldn't come back to bite us for a while. He stuck his toe in Vietnam, but we stick toes in everywhere all the time.

The economy did great, whether you were a white male or not, but 1953-1961 it would have been really hard for the US economy to not do great.
10-21-2017 , 11:20 PM
He also signed the legislation which created the interstate highway system.
10-21-2017 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
IANAL, but wouldn't this type of arranged present a potential conflict interest to the aide's attorney such that the attorney couldn't ethically agree to such an arrangement.

I don't know the answer, but I assume some of the lawyers around here probably do.
My guess is that, since lawyers are the ones who make all these rules, it's ok to take whoever's money as long as you pinky swear that you're really only representing your client's interests.

But also, looking at the Trumpkin team lawyers I doubt ethics matter all that much.

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Originally Posted by 6ix
I'm torn because I totally agree with All-In Flynn in spirit but I made sure I was in Chicago to vote HRC for no other reason than to run up the popvote score against trump (mission accomplished!) so I dunno.

I looked at it AS A 'wasted' protest vote, a protest against trump (so not 'wasted').
I thought of my vote in CA as running up the score and making a point as well.
10-21-2017 , 11:26 PM
Also, Jill Stein ain't no Ralph Nader.

I find it curious how people will say, "I'm not voting for somebody just because they have a (D) by their name," then turn around and vote fr whatever weirdo with a (G) by their name because they think it's the acceptable 3rd party vote.
10-21-2017 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
Most elections I agree.

However, when Donald ****ing trump is the opponent, you vote for the only person who can defeat him. If you don’t, you’re an *******
He voted Clinton in a solid blue state because he despised Trump. This is the one situation we can be sure we both agree he acted entirely correctly. Yet still you're at me about it.

My position is: vote your conscience in solid states, vote tactically in swing states. All you guys seem to have against me is the knowability of polling margins, but I don't understand how that actually supports your position. If you want people to become pure agnostics, OK, but that's not a full-blooded position honestly derived, it's reverse-engineered from Trump's having unexpectedly won. Not one of you would be taking this attitude if Clinton had won. I'd be saying the exact same thing. So who's being results-oriented?
10-21-2017 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
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I thought of my vote in CA as running up the score and making a point as well.
we are The Three Million
10-21-2017 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield View Post
Russia actually has nukes they could use on us, partly in thanks to Clintons helping them do a Uranium Deal.

Gotta be a contender for the dumbest post in 2p2 history.
My take at the time:

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Originally Posted by ChrisV
This thread could go for another 50 years and nobody would ever write a dumber sentence in it.
I know "dumbest thing I have read on 2+2" gets thrown around a lot, but I genuinely think that is it. There's several levels of dumbness there packed into one short sentence.
10-21-2017 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I'm too lazy to look but if you deleted my First Blood endorsement I will cut you.
Don't go in there, but I seent it.
10-21-2017 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Also, Jill Stein ain't no Ralph Nader.

I find it curious how people will say, "I'm not voting for somebody just because they have a (D) by their name," then turn around and vote fr whatever weirdo with a (G) by their name because they think it's the acceptable 3rd party vote.
This. Stein was terrible. There was hate for Nader for which I could go either way. And his position this year was that you should vote HRC in swing states, and not to just vote 3rd party no matter what. But, yeah, aside from whatever the affect of his running for POTUS had, Ralph pretty much rules.
10-21-2017 , 11:46 PM
It should be a prerequisite to listen to Jill Stein's band Somebody's Sister before voting for her.

10-21-2017 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Don't go in there, but I seent it.
Then Wookie drew first blood. Not me.
10-21-2017 , 11:49 PM
I don't know much about this world but I do know that Ben Garrison wants to **** Trump
10-21-2017 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
He voted Clinton in a solid blue state because he despised Trump. This is the one situation we can be sure we both agree he acted entirely correctly. Yet still you're at me about it.



My position is: vote your conscience in solid states, vote tactically in swing states. All you guys seem to have against me is the knowability of polling margins, but I don't understand how that actually supports your position. If you want people to become pure agnostics, OK, but that's not a full-blooded position honestly derived, it's reverse-engineered from Trump's having unexpectedly won. Not one of you would be taking this attitude if Clinton had won. I'd be saying the exact same thing. So who's being results-oriented?


No worries man.
10-22-2017 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
It should be a prerequisite to listen to Jill Stein's band Somebody's Sister before voting for her.

Good God.
10-22-2017 , 02:11 AM
Maybe this isn't the right place, but do people actually expect ~0 derails in a thread that will be at the top of the page for ~4 years? Even if the conversation veers off track it's only matter of time before Trump does/says something outrageous which will naturally bring it back on topic.
10-22-2017 , 02:13 AM
Wookie seems to be on a derail kick lately. It pissed me off because it gave d10 another excuse to avoid my question.
10-22-2017 , 02:23 AM


so we get crazy hat lady and flag burning kneeling troop haters and they get Five Star General John Kelly and the Troops

It feels like we lose with white people 100% of the time here.
10-22-2017 , 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

so we get crazy hat lady and flag burning kneeling troop haters and they get Five Star General John Kelly and the Troops

It feels like we lose with white people 100% of the time here.
This is a very weird formulation.
10-22-2017 , 04:07 AM

      
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