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Old Yesterday, 11:38 PM   #63426
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump

Should photoshop Conway's face. No way Melanie would drape herself onto him, she can barely finger touch with him.
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Old Today, 12:06 AM   #63427
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I'm far from expert in this, but I don't think Gates could do this. (btw, DS said "American Families", not "Americans") I assume most of his net worth is in MS stock. Today MS traded about $24M dollars of stock. So, Gates could maybe sell off the $80B over 5 or 10 years or he could just sell his shares and the value of MS would crash and maybe there'd be a chain reaction. Anyway, point being that a fair amount of the superwealth in the US is on paper and a lot of may never ever be realized.

(also a lot of the not-so-superwealth-it's-just-my-retirement-account in the US is just on paper and may never be realized)
Companies with steady earnings that pay dividends can not see their stock crash no matter how many shares are quickly sold. Thinking otherwise is like thinking that if you quickly sold ten billion twenty dollar bills you couldn't get at least eighteen dollars apiece. Past a certain discount there is a trillion dollars of investment money that would snap up even Gate's portfolio (which is no longer mainly MSFT).
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Old Today, 12:08 AM   #63428
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Donald Trump on responsibility and blame

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President Trump almost admitted Monday that he is failing on his agenda. Then he caught himself.

“We're not getting the job done,” he began, before quickly shifting course. “And I'm not going to blame myself. I'll be honest: They are not getting the job done,” he said, referring to Congress.
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Old Today, 12:58 AM   #63429
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Right. I think colloquially and anecdotally, when the left talks about soaking the rich, normal people are sort of are vaguely aware of Gates and Bezos and Buffet and Zuckberg types, but I think the normal person kind of casually thinks what the left is really talking about are punitive taxes for their boss and the local business owner and the guy in the neighborhood with the best house. Credit to right wing propaganda there for making the normal bourgeois seem like they're the mega rich,
This isn't some right wing propaganda victory or left wing messaging issue. The actual proposals by the left have substantial tax increases for some guy making 500k while leaving the massive unrealized gains of Bezos et al. untaxed.
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Old Today, 01:13 AM   #63430
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It's also nice that there are built in narratives to persuade people to support this.

Trump claims that the Electoral College favors Democrats, and that he'd do fine/better in a popular vote system. Call his bluff. Spend money on ads claiming that the EC was made to favor Democrats, the liberals are trying to steal your votes with these elitist Electors, we need to pass this popular vote system/compact just to ensure that good, decent white folk's votes still count. Despite counterfactual evidence, the rubes will buy it.

The D's will support it because they can see the factual evidence.

It just needs some marketing and a big push. DNC leadership is stupid if they don't spend some $ on this.

(Spoiler: DNC leadership is stupid. So it may take a while.)
Man, I actually think this is a great idea.
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Old Today, 01:15 AM   #63431
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And half the Dems here still think they should nominate a vanilla centrist next time around.

Does anyone follow Warren on twitter? Her and Bernie are literally the only people on the left in congress that provide energy and passion for what they believe in. Those who don't think she would be a capable leader for the party are straight up acquiescing to deplorables. Don't fall for the concern-trolling.
I follow both of them also. They both breathe fire and passion for what's right.
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Old Today, 01:17 AM   #63432
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I have watched a lot of Al Franken on Youtube also. That guy is fighting for the good of the country every time I see him.
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Old Today, 01:18 AM   #63433
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the more **** trump does the more his base thinks surely none of it is true, therefore everything and anything that keeps happening is more lies by the media
Twitter today was full of responses to the soldier call stuff with “What about Hillary and Uranium, why you keep ignoring it.”


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Old Today, 01:25 AM   #63434
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Companies with steady earnings that pay dividends can not see their stock crash no matter how many shares are quickly sold. Thinking otherwise is like thinking that if you quickly sold ten billion twenty dollar bills you couldn't get at least eighteen dollars apiece. Past a certain discount there is a trillion dollars of investment money that would snap up even Gate's portfolio (which is no longer mainly MSFT).
I reckon that makes sense. I don't know if MS's P/E ratio or dividends or w/e really justify the stock price, but even if not there is surely a lot of money around that would seek the stock as fast as it could be sold if it were much below the price when the selling started.
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Old Today, 04:13 AM   #63435
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the more **** trump does the more his base thinks surely none of it is true, therefore everything and anything that keeps happening is more lies by the media
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Old Today, 04:14 AM   #63436
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the more **** trump does the more his base thinks surely none of it is true, therefore everything and anything that keeps happening is more lies by the media
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Old Today, 04:23 AM   #63437
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You would think since a bunch of the dumb **** he does is filmed and tweeted they would be a little skeptical that he is not doing dumb **** all the time.
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Old Today, 04:35 AM   #63438
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/18/politi...nse/index.html

McCain: Administration not being up front about Niger attack

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(CNN)Sen. John McCain argued Wednesday that the Trump administration is not being forthcoming about the attack in Niger that left four US soldiers dead and two wounded.
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Asked if he thinks Congress should launch an investigation into the attack, the chairman of the Senate armed services committee told reporters that first he would like to get the information that his panel "deserves and needs."
"Then you decide whether a quote investigation is needed or not," he said.
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Pressed further on whether the administration was being up front about the ISIS-affiliated attack, McCain answered bluntly: "No."
Nigergate? Nigerazi?
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Old Today, 04:42 AM   #63439
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You would think since a bunch of the dumb **** he does is filmed and tweeted they would be a little skeptical that he is not doing dumb **** all the time.
Last week I had a Trumpkin at work tell me that Trump making fun of the disabled reporter has been debunked as fake over and over. When I showed him the video, he said I had obviously doctored it and it just proved how the story is fake. I don't think they care about the truth.
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