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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

09-24-2017 , 12:06 PM
NFL protest half of the thread >>> stupid boring argument about PhDs and Schrodinger half of the thread
09-24-2017 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Maybe the white people holding arms and such are doing it to not take the lead/spotlight as opposed to doing a half-measure. Dunno, but it seems like it's meant as support/respect/solidarity. Like, I think someone like Tom Brady in particular should maybe not take a knee and make this about him and putting his hand on someone's shoulder might be better.
I have been thinking about this and seems likely. I know me personally would not want to assume my participation is wanted or that it might take something away. I would be down for it but would discuss it with others.

I suspect we will end up with lots of white players kneeling today though.
09-24-2017 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Ok. Ya'll are the Schroedinger of nations. And we're the Einstein.



I'm saying that our economical dominance wasn't handed to us. We earned it. Good government, hard work, unifying a very large country etc. For better or worse, what we do is going to dominate what happens to the whole world. That makes us the greatest.
You misspelled slavery and genocide.
09-24-2017 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Ok. Ya'll are the Schroedinger of nations. And we're the Einstein.
The point was really more about not caring all that much, ie, I suspect you're wrong to suggest that other countries would be swooning to this day if Einstein had chosen to live there.

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I'm saying that our economical dominance wasn't handed to us. We earned it. Good government, hard work, unifying a very large country etc.
A fair amount of it was handed to you. Relative geographical isolation, abundant natural resources. Even the fact that vast numbers of natives died of a plague around the time Europeans began settling there played its part. 'Unifying a large country' consisted in no small part of slaughtering those who remained.

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For better or worse, what we do is going to dominate what happens to the whole world. That makes us the greatest.
Yeah, this is something closer to it. Strength. Power. Dominance. Remove the moral pretension implied by 'great' and we can probably get close to agreement.
09-24-2017 , 12:17 PM
Well said. If best is defined solely as powerful military then America is the global leader by a wide margin.
09-24-2017 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
why not? Germany is about to build the world's first fusion reactor power station.
Not really.

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Originally Posted by markksman
The US has 20% more phds than the second and third ranked countries combined.
Also, Ph.Ds from different universities are not remotely equivalent, so this is a really bad metric.
09-24-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BMOL33
The vast majority of pro athletes do not care about winning. It's no different than any of us. We want the highest paying job in preferably the best company. If at the end of the day the company isn't in the top 5 in its industry we can generally live with spending our entire career there if we can support our families, have good co workers and a good working environment.
lol. best post.
09-24-2017 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BluffMyNuts
To anyone with a brain it should sound stupid. I'm not even a gun nut, I own 0 guns and the only time I fired one was while I served. Don't really care for them but at least get the basic nomenclature correct.

Eta: I have gone to the range since I got out and shot an AR, pretty sure CA doesn't allow you to shoot MACHINE GUNS at a range.
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Originally Posted by BluffMyNuts
I was waiting to purchase a gun but with all the recent developments I'm going to be purchasing several in the coming months. I don't want to not have any when the inevitable knee jerk legislation is passed. Thanks for showing me the light guys.
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Originally Posted by BluffMyNuts
Obviously best case scenario is that effective legislation is passed and that somehow the number of guns in this country is reduced but that's a pipe dream. I'd rather be on the side with guns than without with the way things are playing out in this country. I had hoped the last time I needed to strap up would be when I was in Iraq but I have a family to keep safe.
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Originally Posted by BluffMyNuts
Picking up a 45, AR-15 and a shotgun for myself and whatever wifemynuts decides on for her handgun of choice. Guessing with lessons for her, ammo and the 4 guns we're looking at 10k.
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Originally Posted by BluffMyNuts
This is true but luckily we're pretty good financially. I know part of my paranoia is due to serving in the military but I really don't want the last thing that goes through my mind, before the assailants bullet, to be "damn I wish I bought those guns".
09-24-2017 , 12:25 PM
Yeah didn't actually buy any, decided against it but thanks for looking all those posts up. I don't know how to solve the gun issue I'm America but I'd love to hear how it can be fixed.
09-24-2017 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
I really do struggle to see how its not obvious. Somebody like Einstein, who was forced to flee his his own country, chose to be American. And it makes perfect sense. He's the best, we're the best, of course he should be an American. For any other nation, the fact that Albert Einstein decided to become one of you would be an immense source of national pride. For us its expected.
Wait.
09-24-2017 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
I'm saying that our economical dominance wasn't handed to us. We earned it. Good government, hard work, unifying a very large country etc. For better or worse, what we do is going to dominate what happens to the whole world. That makes us the greatest.
Are you taking about the civil war, indigenous genocide, or conquest of Mexico?
09-24-2017 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Ok. Ya'll are the Schroedinger of nations. And we're the Einstein.



I'm saying that our economical dominance wasn't handed to us. We earned it. Good government, hard work, unifying a very large country etc. For better or worse, what we do is going to dominate what happens to the whole world. That makes us the greatest.
A vast undeveloped continent, relative isolation from world wars, a steady flow of immigrants, and some radical for their time social safety programs are what made this country the greatest. Everything else contributed to its deplorability.
09-24-2017 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Not really.
Are you taking the stance of denying a scientific and technological fact?
09-24-2017 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
I personally hope I'm wrong, and clearly I stated I'm speculating in my post. Tomlin's own comments on the matter have been somewhat vague, so I'm not certain we're going to be able to divine his intentions, and I imagine he's going to blow off any questions about it in his post game presser.





Ingrates and degenerates are code for n word
09-24-2017 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Called it.
09-24-2017 , 12:46 PM


i just felt like posting this because Ali is the ****ing greatest
09-24-2017 , 12:46 PM
I don't know how many of you still check trumpkin sites but this is pretty much what trumpkins see and think:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...t-whiners.html

This is insanely one sided and the misrepresentation of the whole invitation thingy is crazy.
Here's also some crazy logic from the fanatics:

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Does Curry have a problem with defending American sovereignty, securing the border, protecting our people from radical Islam and making America great again?
Basically these players are now equivalent to terrorists and full on traitors.

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It's about time the president stands up to a bunch of overpaid, petulant brats whose only discernible life skill is to play with balls.
i.e black people can only jump (and are terrorists).

MADNESS!
09-24-2017 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
A vast undeveloped continent, relative isolation from world wars, a steady flow of immigrants, and some radical for their time social safety programs are what made this country the greatest. Everything else contributed to its deplorability.
Missed slavery, massive discoveries of gold, silver and oil, and incredibly large fertile plains. As far as world wars go it was more than just isolation. Our government and industry and their partnership grew incredibly as a result of the war while the rest of the industrial world was wrecked and/or left in our debt.

Our integration of immigrants and acceptance of other cultures was very helpful and I think somewhat exceptional, but we've certainly lost leadership in that regard.
09-24-2017 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Holy **** he's blaming WELL NAMED for relaxing the personal attacks rule??!?! What ****ing mythology is getting built here?
Just as a matter of fact I was definitely responsible for relaxing the rules against personal attacks. In response to a thread and poll in which the majority of posters expressed their preference for that change. Not that this has much at all to do with why the forum was closed but I guess chez pointed this out in response to microbet saying the forum was badly modded because it allowed too many personal attacks.
09-24-2017 , 12:52 PM
Although President Donald Trump's proposed budget plan for the 2018 fiscal year would increase spending across the Department of Veterans Affairs, the proposal would also slash individual unemployment benefits for disabled veterans by more than $40.8 billion over 10 years.
09-24-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
A vast undeveloped continent, relative isolation from world wars, a steady flow of immigrants, and some radical for their time social safety programs are what made this country the greatest. Everything else contributed to its deplorability.
Exactly. A steady flow of immigrants. Since our founding there's never been a time when people don't want to come here. And they can.
09-24-2017 , 12:55 PM
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American ldo. But I'll use the example of the 4 other guys in my group at work. None were born in the US but they basically had to come here based on their talent. There just wasn't an MIT/Harvard/Princeton in their backyard to go to grad school. I don't see any other country that attracts incredibly talented people like USA#1.
lol this guy is trying to subtly brag about how the people he works with all went to Ivy league schools... there are advanced universities all the world that attract students.

The fact that you think America is the greatest country in the world because of its Ivy League schools is really odd. Most of the people who attend them are super rich ****s like Jared Kushner.

That has to be one of the single stupidest measuring sticks I have ever heard of.
09-24-2017 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
Just as a matter of fact I was definitely responsible for relaxing the rules against personal attacks. In response to a thread and poll in which the majority of posters expressed their preference for that change. Not that this has much at all to do with why the forum was closed but I guess chez pointed this out in response to microbet saying the forum was badly modded because it allowed too many personal attacks.
Just to clarify I did not say it was badly modded because it allowed personal attacks. Imo zero restrictions on personal attacks would have been better than what there was.
09-24-2017 , 01:00 PM
Fair enough micro.
09-24-2017 , 01:00 PM


edit: brady standing obv

      
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