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02-03-2017 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Boy would any actions against Iranian-Americans make it clear that it was about Islam because a lot, if not most, Iranian-Americans are Jewish or Christian (Armenian).
I mean isn't it obvious that it's about Islam already. Trump and Ahmadinejad would get along like Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger if the two countries were both Christian, I think this is clear to anybody.
02-03-2017 , 02:14 PM
Does Trump know that most banks still won't lend to developers that have multiple bankruptcies on their record even if things like reserve requirements or whatever are relaxed?
02-03-2017 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
Trump also intends to sign a separate presidential memorandum to roll back the Labor Department’s rules that would require financial professionals to put their clients’ interests ahead of their own. The “fiduciary rule,” scheduled to go into effect in April, has long been a target of Republicans, including close Trump Wall Street ally Anthony Scaramucci, who call it burdensome and costly.

this is great for scammers pretending to be financial professionals
link?

GOP opposition to these rules always cracked me up. FAs are close to scam artists as it is.
02-03-2017 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
Trump also intends to sign a separate presidential memorandum to roll back the Labor Department’s rules that would require financial professionals to put their clients’ interests ahead of their own. The “fiduciary rule,” scheduled to go into effect in April, has long been a target of Republicans, including close Trump Wall Street ally Anthony Scaramucci, who call it burdensome and costly.

this is great for scammers pretending to be financial professionals
But think of all the jobs that will be created by folks who can now scam legally.
02-03-2017 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jayhawks
Do you think Israel and Iran can both be our allies at the same time?
Sure. It's not inconceivable that a more liberal Iranian government is capable of putting distance between itself and Hezbollah. They might be even more willing to do it if there's a real economic upside and the prospect of taking a step toward joining the West.

But more importantly, keep in mind that we are allies with several countries who we all know are hostile to Israel to some degree. Israel has minimal leverage here.
02-03-2017 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Really? Can you name 5 terrorist attacks that have occurred in Muslim countries without looking it up? Meaning, you can't say Paris but you can say Bali in 2016 or something like that. Give an estimate on the number of people killed too. Thanks. Should be easy since you care so much.
Easy game....Turkey: Oct 2015 - around 100 killed, Jan 2016 a suicide bomber killed himself and around 10 others, Feb 2016 30 or so killed and close to 70 injured and two strikes in March of 2016 (around 30 people killed) two in June (around 60 people killed) and the one in Jan 2017.

Then there where the countless car bombing that take place in Iraq, that were almost a weekly occurrence in the early part of 2016 but tapered off in the later part of the year due in large part to the push back of Isis.

Those where the two countries that have had most of the attacks over the last two years for obvious reasons.
02-03-2017 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
I'd imagine this is their intent, but I legit get depressed from reading news updates and talking about it. I'm considering taking a break for my own personal sanity, but then I realize that means I'm giving up and giving them what they want.
Have frequently thought and concluded the exact same.
02-03-2017 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jayhawks
Do you think Israel and Iran can both be our allies at the same time?
If Israel and Russia can, then sure.
02-03-2017 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
link?

GOP opposition to these rules always cracked me up. FAs are close to scam artists as it is.
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President Donald Trump has begun killing off an Obama-era retirement-savings rule unpopular with Republicans and some financial-industry executives who say it would harm consumers more than help.

The so-called fiduciary rule, six years in the making and unveiled by the Labor Department last spring, holds brokers and advisers who work with tax-advantaged retirement savings to a fiduciary standard as opposed to the previous suitability standard. That means they must work in the best interest of their clients and generally avoid conflicts, which can come about with the commission-based compensation common among brokers and insurance agents.
This is also the worst analogy ever

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“We think it is a bad rule. It is a bad rule for consumers," said White House National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn in an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Thursday. “This is like putting only healthy food on the menu, because unhealthy food tastes good but you still shouldn’t eat it because you might die younger.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-m...16007?mobile=y
02-03-2017 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Easy game....Turkey: Oct 2015 - around 100 killed, Jan 2016 a suicide bomber killed himself and around 10 others, Feb 2016 30 or so killed and close to 70 injured and two strikes in March of 2016 (around 30 people killed) two in June (around 60 people killed) and the one in Jan 2017.

Then there where the countless car bombing that take place in Iraq, that were almost a weekly occurrence in the early part of 2016 but tapered off in the later part of the year due in large part to the push back of Isis.
No doubt. Just retype them in order.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-attacks.html
02-03-2017 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Just speculation, but war with Iran could be used as reasoning for possible internment of Iranian-Americans or other Muslim Americans.
It could be used to conscript rust-belt Trumpkins thus creating jobs for them. Of course rich Trumpkins would be caught up in the heel spur epidemic.
02-03-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by davmcg
It could be used to conscript rust-belt Trumpkins thus creating jobs for them. Of course rich Trumpkins would be caught up in the heel spur epidemic.
That's not a maybe but a definitely. Just like previous wars including Iraq and Afghanistan, it will be used to funnel low-income kids through the military if they want to get an education. This will hit rural communities and communities of color very hard.
02-03-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
So what exactly is Bannon's goal? All Bannon quotes seem to suggest that he just wants complete chaos. But surely he must have some ideology (beyond "white people are best") that he's going for? I understand he's trying to get rid of muslims within his own country's borders, making immigration to the States harder/impossible, etc. But what is he going for re: foreign politics? I keep reading quotes how he wants to break the EU, but why? What's his ultimate agenda?

Sorry if it's a stupid question, I just keep reading these scary quotes but never really seen his bottom line ideology explained.
02-03-2017 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by davmcg
It could be used to conscript rust-belt Trumpkins thus creating jobs for them. Of course rich Trumpkins would be caught up in the heel spur epidemic.
I thought it was mostly uneducated rednecks that joined the military already.
02-03-2017 , 02:36 PM
Senate Votes To Kill Dodd Frank Anti-Corruption Rule
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...rab5bimcgnwmi&
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WASHINGTON, Feb 3 (Reuters) - The Republican-led Congress killed a controversial U.S. securities disclosure rule early on Friday aimed at curbing corruption at big oil, gas and mining companies.

In a 52 to 47 vote, the Senate approved a resolution already passed by the House of Representatives that wipes from the books a rule requiring companies such as Exxon Mobil and Chevron Corp to publicly state the taxes and other fees they pay to foreign governments.

Republican President Donald Trump is expected to sign it shortly.

Exxon and other major energy corporations have fought for years to prevent the rule, required by the 2010 Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform law, from seeing the light of day.

After a series of legal battles, the Securities and Exchange Commission in June 2016 completed the regulation, which supporters say can help expose questionable financial ties U.S. companies may have with foreign governments.

Democrats in the Senate had raised concerns during debate late on Wednesday that Exxon’s chief executive during those legal fights was Rex Tillerson, recently confirmed as Secretary of State, the country’s top diplomatic post.
02-03-2017 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Modernizing and liberalizing their society. Large investments especially in tech startups. They are smart, educated people who want freedom and prosperity.
Not to beat a dead horse, but...

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During an interview in Davos, Switzerland, Secretary of State John Kerry admitted in January that some of the money made available to Iran by the removal of sanctions would "end up in the hands of the IRGC or other entities, some of which are labeled terrorists," referring to Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politi...ort-terrorism/
02-03-2017 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jayhawks
I don't really doubt this, but ulterior motives exist.
I'm going to jump in here because this kind of thing always puzzles me. We agree that actually going to war with Iran would be ugly. Total war would be horrific, occupation has a near 0% of succeeding. So why do Conservatives sabre rattle if everyone knows it's not going to end well? Why complain about releasing sanctions when the reason sanctions are on them, presumably to get the nuclear deal, isn't considered as an end goal? My inking is that ether Iran is some kind of Conservative boogieman that has to be vanquished regardless of the strategic benefits or detriments to doing so, or there are some alternative reasons for all the sabre rattling and pushing for more sanctions that's never explained, it's just assumed everyone should be for it.
02-03-2017 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
So what exactly is Bannon's goal? All Bannon quotes seem to suggest that he just wants complete chaos. But surely he must have some ideology (beyond "white people are best") that he's going for? I understand he's trying to get rid of muslims within his own country's borders, making immigration to the States harder/impossible, etc. But what is he going for re: foreign politics? I keep reading quotes how he wants to break the EU, but why? What's his ultimate agenda?

Sorry if it's a stupid question, I just keep reading these scary quotes but never really seen his bottom line ideology explained.
We don't have to guess. He told us.

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Originally Posted by Steve Bannon
Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-leninist.html
02-03-2017 , 02:46 PM
F-1 student visas for kids from the seven countries have also been revoked. If someone leaves the country (on spring break, for instance), he won't be allowed back in. The government has not bothered to directly tell anyone about this, but just admitted it in the court proceedings today.
02-03-2017 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jayhawks
The Revolutionary Guard is a state entity. If their state military is labeled a terrorist organization, then yeah, easy to say it funded terrorists.

Much, much harder to show that they used it to fund Hezbollah.
02-03-2017 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Senate Votes To Kill Dodd Frank Anti-Corruption Rule
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...rab5bimcgnwmi&
Unbelievable.

This **** is going to take decades to fix
02-03-2017 , 02:51 PM
Like, we are entering the ****ing dark ages again. How much progress are we going to lose under 4 years of this fat ****?
02-03-2017 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JordanIB
No doubt. Just retype them in order.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-attacks.html
You would have to be living in a cave to not realize or know about all the attacks that have taken place in Turkey. Those are only the most obvious.

Could I name all the attacks that are taking place in Norther Africa or other countries, nope. There are too many to count.
02-03-2017 , 02:54 PM
any republicans/voters reactions to Conway just making up a terrorist massacre out of thin air? I cant believe this **** can happen with your voter base not giving a **** this is an alternative world
02-03-2017 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
We don't have to guess. He told us.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-leninist.html
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The flag fluttering above the U.S. Capitol is emblazoned with a crescent and star. Chants of “Allahu Akbar” rise from inside the building.

That’s the provocative opening scene of a documentary-style movie outlined 10 years ago by Stephen K. Bannon that envisioned radical Muslims taking over the country and remaking it into the “Islamic States of America,” according to a document describing the project obtained by The Washington Post.

The outline shows how Bannon, years before he became a strategist for President Trump and helped draft last week’s order restricting travel from seven mostly Muslim countries, sought to issue a warning about the threat posed by radical Muslims as well as their “enablers among us.” Although driven by the “best intentions,” the outline says, institutions such as the media, the Jewish community and government agencies were appeasing jihadists aiming to create an Islamic republic.

The eight-page draft, written in 2007 during Bannon’s stint as a Hollywood filmmaker, proposed a three-part movie that would trace “the culture of intolerance” behind sharia law, examine the “Fifth Column” made up of “Islamic front groups” and identify the American enablers paving “the road to this unique hell on earth.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.be8b65c2af18

He doesn't seem to be the most expository person but he seems to be the same paleo conservative that's deeply invested in a civilizational clash and seeing Muslims as some existential evil and liberals as being their enablers that's been a major part of the GOP but always edged out by the business friendly Republicans. He thinks he can tap into that inner volk of the American people by heightening their fear of Muslims and imagining themselves as the true Americans while seeing the liberals (and to a lesser extent the business friendly Conservatives) as helping the poor, minorities, and Muslims as cut in line or take priority over those true Americans

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The exchange (which begins around the 17 minute mark here) starts with Trump riffing about how top foreign-born Ivy league graduates should be allowed to stay in America where they can be “job creators.” But then Bannon spoke up to disagree, and he did so in a very revealing way:

TRUMP: We have to keep our talented people in this country.

BANNON: Um—

TRUMP: I think you agree with that. Do you agree with that?

BANNON: Well I got a tougher — you know, when two thirds or three quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think — on, my point is, a country’s more like, [inaudible], a country’s more than an economy. We’re a civic society.
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Once you keep those views in mind, the method behind the “madness” of the Trump administration’s treatment of green card holders becomes clear. Most Republicans generally profess to love legal immigration. They say they are only concerned with the illegal variety (and Trump himself has said the same).

But some of the people around Trump, like Bannon, top White House policy aide Stephen Miller, and attorney general nominee Jeff Sessions, go much further. They want to privilege native-born Americans over even the most entrepreneurial and industrious (and legal) immigrants.
http://www.vox.com/2017/1/29/1442998...r-steve-bannon

It's your basic right wing populism; xenophobia, islamophobia and pointing the finger at those who enablers of the hordes of outsiders

      
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