Yeah the button thing seemed off. Seems like a ridic system if there is a physical button that can be bumped during a shift change but also seems like a hard lie to contain if that kind of mistake is not possible.

Fishy for sure.

Eta: changed my mind after reading this and feel like a conspiritard now. It seems plausible.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/1....html?referer=

I mean, let's be realistic.. All they'd probably need to do is make a McDonald's run and bring Stormy Daniels by and that would hold him off for a little while.



Easy lie to contain if it's an issue of national security, IMO. You're talking about what, maybe 5-20 people that would know? All of whom know who serious it is.

I think we probably have bigger secrets kept with more people in the loop.

Emergency alert system employees and ex-employees keeping quiet about the possibility/logistics of the message being sent by mistake? What level of vetting and security clearance is needed to get that job?

I have no idea what sort of vetting and clearances they'd need... But if the military tells them, "If you leak this, it makes us more vulnerable to future hacks and future nuclear attacks, so STFU," I think it's possible they don't tell any/many people.

I mean, I just can't imagine this is a button someone could just press by accident, or a computer program that only requires one click to send an alert. It just boggles my mind. If I try to delete a file, I get "Are you sure?" but the EAS is just one click done?

I would imagine there is one click to pull up a menu, a password/code of some sort, a menu of possible alerts, and an "Are you sure?" prompt. That seems like the bare minimum.

Saw The Post tonight, then came home and decided to watch All The President's Men which I hadn't seen before. Didn't realize how many echoes of the Nixon administration are in our current situation, especially the non-denial denials ("that's a real bull**** question, that's a question straight out of Wichita Kansas") and cries of FAKE NEWS.

American history is full of soldiers doing ****ty things just because they were told to.

It gets much worse if you look a littls further afield.

Chance of a soldier disobeying the president is very low.

Um, yeah, no. There is no way in hell the people who run our military are letting Cheetos fire off first strike nuclear weapons.

They'd be risking their careers/prison time to defy him.

Just argued for a few hours with one of the only black kids in my city growing up about El Salvadorans being evicted. He literally googled it and made a decision on like probably drudge or something in 2 minutes backing trump. “their time is up”. I asked him like 50 damn Times why exactly they need to leave.

“They should have got citizenship. “

That’s not an option unless qualify for a green card”.

“Expiration is up. No more free ride”.

“They pay taxes and work.”

“Expiration date!”

“Trump just made up the expiration date. Why do they have to leave?”

Derp

Derp

Derp

Hillary

Derp.

Sad about our reality.

Like he couldn’t or wouldn’t fathom trump and miller and others are racist dip****s kicking them out for racist reasons and yet had no valid excuse for kicking them out but derp derp Hilary.

It kind of hit me today about going somewhere you haven’t been in 30 years and the difficulty. I would protest over this more than most things lately. Doesn’t seem to be getting much noise.

All those people’s’ 30 years of building families, relationships and careers burned for no reason other than racist ****heads.

So are you saying that in the film "The sum of All Fears" they are doing it wrong when the president needs a 2nd person to confirm the launch? That would indeed be frightening.

Trump's nuclear football contains a boxing glove on a spring.

“Someone clicked the wrong thing on the computer” isn't very credible for a system of this importance.

Not comforting to know that Armageddon can be touched off by a misclick. And what does this have to do with a shift change? I can just imagine someone being trained on the system. "Okay, at shift change you click this, click this, click that. Never ever click that. Now you try it. Doh!!!"

I would assume that their are some additional safeguards in place before Armageddon happens due to a text message sent in Hawaii, so a simple misclick will not likely end the world as we know it.

They are the only state that has this type of thing, and they tried to bring back the 80s doing so. I get that a lot of the emotion of this thread is fear, and collective fear energizes people, which creates more fear. However, sometimes the simple explanation tends to be accurate, which may disappoint those hoping to be afraid of something more sinister.

I don't think it is a cover up for hackers, Russians, aliens or whatever. I expect a bit more information will come out, and it will show that rushing a system like this in place will have unforeseen issues, which is essentially "Welcome to Humanity." Ideally, those developing future systems will understand to be more prepared.

This big kerfluffle over the WSJ interview whether Trump said 'I' or "I'd" have a good relationship with NK

They released the audio this morning but it kinda sounds like "I'd" to me, or at least ambiguous

whatever real trivial

Daddy is tweeting nonsense about DACA again this morning. Lies are getting bolder.

He tells it like it is unless he tells something we don’t like then we deny it.

Who gives a **** about whether he said I or I'd. I pray to God, Zeus, Vishnu, Tom Cruise, Oprah and Jah every day that we don't have a real disaster in this country in the next 3 years or at least that the crazy stuff that his goons are already doing doesn't **** things up too much (net neutrality, tax bill, etc).

I think the flip side of this is that it's hard to have an immigration compromise with a racist.

Racist playbook:

Page 1: Complain endlessly about being called racist and threaten to be even more racist if the libs don't shut up

Yea I don't buy the "Oopsie! Wrong button!" excuse either. I mean hell, if you try to sign into gmail from a new computer, you get a text alert asking if that's what you want to do.
Even if you try to delete a random photo on your phone it asks if you really want to delete it.

The bigger question is if we were hacked, who did it and why? Like, the start of WW3 was a real possibility yesterday.

People vulnerable to suggestion itt. Listen again. It is 100% crystal clear he says "I." There is no sound between "I" and "pr."

Counterpoint: Go **** yourself