you guys regularly see people OCing? its legal here but i don't think i've ever seen anyone do it and i've never personally done it

any thoughts on the HK/Walther pistol trigger-type magazine release?

thoughts on how it compares to the more common button release?

I'm not a fan, but don't let that deter you. You can learn to manipulate almost anything through repetition.

Not regularly, which is why I mentally note it when I see someone OCing. Probably seen people OC about 4 times this past year or so.

I'm about to print some of these cards, and I'd encourage those of you who carry daily (and even those who don't) to print some and pass them out at businesses you encounter day to day.




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If you do it, please post TR's of reactions you recieve when you give them to a manager/business owner.

Edit: Tsao, I'd recommend you refrain from this. Don't wanna see you on YouTube getting beaten by NYPD.

The gun group here passes those cards out to shops in state (no gun no money). Love it. I'm very tempted to go to my BK now to see what happens. My health says its best to boycott it anyways.

Got the XD sub. Been playing with it for the last 20 minutes. Wish I could fire it. Sounds like a good excuse to head up to the National Forest this weekend!

Post pics!

thats pretty sweet dbj

thnx dbl

i'd like other opinions too plz if anyone has experience.

Leave NY problem solved IMO

Gentlemen,

I visited the local arms merchant this day, after reading some of the owners interwebz poastings regarding a new weapon in stock, currently being sold in a silent auction format to the highest bidder.

This weapon:


The Kel-Tec KSG, is a 12 gauge bullpup shotgun with two magazines that can be switched, allowing you to keep your weapon loaded with slugs on one side and buckshot on the other, or numerous other configurations.

The best thing about this weapons system? Since it is a shotgun, it is CURRENTLY 50 state legal.


Did I mention this thing fully loaded has a capacity of 14+1?

Here's a YouTube video. I will warn you to get tissue paper before viewing. The likelihood you'll cry, or [x] came, or both is very high. Enjoy friends.

Why do the swamp gator hunters on the tube use the rifles instead of pistols? I'd want the quicker correction that's possible with my Ruger MKII, but there must be some advantage to the long barrel.

Reasons I can guess but don't know what's really decisive:

*Cheap. It's what they have.

*The technique. Some guys dangle the barrel and place it for sure for sure. But I see other guys aiming like it's a duck.

*Reliability. But only the bolt action boys. But other guys use autos, so still no consensus. Except rifles. They all use rifles.

*Safety. But I doubt it.

You want the owner to feel gratified every time a gun is disuaded from his premises?

Well, I see it this way:


This isn't reality. If you're a business owner and these two fictional characters want to enter your premises, they will, and your damn sign isn't stopping them.

If NeBlis or I want to come into your business, we'll likely stop for the sign, other than I'll give you the added benefit of informing you that I'm refusing to conduct business with you because of your ill informed policy and also give you a rough estimate of how much you've cost yourself this day.

In the modern Internet age, many carriers also hit the carry forums and broadcast your business. Georgiapacking.org has a thread that's pretty active to notify the public of places where you (and your money) are unwelcome. Most of us will willingly spend a little extra money and drive a little further to patronize businesses we are welcomed in.

I think actually it's got something to do with LA game laws.

I've been gator hunting once with a guide in FL and that dude was using a S&W 500.

So an individual who wishes to remain anonymous PM'd me looking for information on Gun Show etiquette in regards to approaching customers carrying weapons inside the gun show and I told this individual it was perfectly acceptable to approach people inside of a gun show and attempt to barter/purchase weapons from private individuals.

This person seems to feel that I'm leveling them a bit. Just wanted to post here to not only show that this was common practice, but also discuss some etiquette on how to approach individuals at a gun show and attempt to barter with them.

Thoughts?

FYI, I had dinner at Red Robin today and they had a big sign in it saying No Firearms. In case you are in the boycotting mood. (I'm not, their burgers were pretty good).

Yeah, anyone carrying either wants to show their gun off, or it's for sale. Either way, they'll be happy you asked about it.

Carry anyway?

Cleaned the guns tonight and they are ready to rock n roll this weekend. Can't wait to shoot the new one.

No one thinks a sign is keeping away armed robbers.

One rationale for keeping YOUR gun out is to prevent a battle inside the store. Store owner wants quick compliance and the robbers out of the building.

Another would be they don't want idiots to go Zimmerman on a shoplifter or some weird assed scenario.

Another would be to make a statement against market saturation of the populace with firearms, which is a big picture disaster, even if you and Neblis do it right.

Well, a business owner is free to do whatever they choose in their business.

I am free to refuse them my money. If they'd rather "make a statement against market saturation of the populace with firearms" they're free to do so.

Starbucks seems to be doing rather well for themselves these days.

Wal-Mart does too.

Also, they're really not "keeping my gun out" either. I'm a hypocrite, like all humans. I don't always do the principled thing, although I do try to. However, if I'm in a rush, it's a hard to find item, or I'm just concerned about convenience over principle, I just CARRY ANYWAY.

Never once been caught carrying when I wasn't blatantly attempting to be caught carrying solely for the purpose of drawing attention to a particular businesses policies.

Depending on the jurisdiction, if you're carrying in a place that has a sign that says no carrying, you may be trespassing. If you conceal well, you won't be found out. But if your gun prints, you can get arrested.

hey doodz need some advice. I wanna buy a gun, not cuz I ever plan to use it, but just cuz I wanna tell my stupid librul family that I'm a gun owner cuz it'll piss them off. What should I get? I dont wanna spend more than like 300.

Not sure if serious. But I guess it depends on what would scare your family more, a little handgun, or a big rifle or shotgun. Plenty of choices available in all three categories. Handgun would probably be the most offensive, especially one you can carry in your pocket. You can get a Ruger LCP for $300.