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06-19-2017 , 12:14 PM
Democracy in Chains- Nancy MacLean

NPR Review

NYJB Review


Read this book on the advice of the journalist Jamelle Bouie. The book follows the path of the rise of the intellectual underpinning of American libertarianism. As someone who was around the forum when the libertarians were all over a lot of the history I knew, but the book follows someone who I had only hazily remembered, James Buchanan, the Nobel Prize winning economist and staunch libertarian who was one of the intellectual linchpins for the libertarian movement but who was eventually overtaken by the Koch's and ended up dying alone and forgotten. The author found his papers and poured over them and from them built the 'inside story' if you will the libertarian movement.

A lot of the points put out by libertarians are already pretty well known, that the genesis of modern libertarianism sprung up as a counterpoint against slavery (many libertarians count Calhoun as a progenitor), the labor movements, and the Civil Rights Movement. As a lot of posters here probably know, the hardcore libertarian movement is what the author calls a 'property supremacists' movement, where the free market and property are to be guarded against democratic encroachment. From that you get 'taxes are theft', the idea that any group movement is illegitimate, such as labor laws, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc.

The book takes the libertarian movement down a journey from a small group of true believers who thought they could win the war of ideas against left leaning economists and politicians into a autocratic secretive movement whose goals aren't to be openly pushed for but who's goals have to be achieved through secrecy. That happened because it dawned on the true believers that it turns out people enjoy Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and other government and so even the right leaning electorate wouldn't vote to get rid of them, themselves. (Why would anyone vote themselves poor?" was a critique of the idea of openly pushing the idea). So the movement shifted openly advocating the idea into seeing ways in which they could force their ideas onto an unwilling electorate ("If people choose to be enslaved, can we force them to be free?", was one question found in Buchannan's notes) via changing the rules of the game, not merely voting in a libertarian friendly candidate.

The author pinpoints Chile as being a prototype of this strategy. People know that Friedman went to Chile to supervise the Chilean government but it's less known that Buchannan, Hayek, and other hardcore libertarians went to supervise the government. There the government put up all kinds of roadblocks to any kind of democratic ability to increase taxes or shift the balance of power away from the propertied classes and the military. The author notes that this is a reoccurring theme and a paradox to the naive. If libertarians are so committed to spreading 'liberty' why was their crowing project doused in blood in Chile? Why is the time when libertarians say was the most 'moral', the time between 1850 and 1928 when there was low government intervention and high legal protections for property, also one of the most bloody in American history short of war?

The author ends the book shortly after Buchannan's death so it doesn't go into all the modern manifestation of the libertarian attempt at gaining power in the US. It does mention that the libertarian movement shifted from being apart from the Republican Party to infusing itself within it, via ALEC, the Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, mercatus Center, and its virtual takeover of the George Mason University. It mentioned the strategies in play; in attacking labor unions at the state level by putting up insurmountable roadblocks as well as, in Michigan, the taking over of local municipalities and then imposing draconian libertarian measures far above what would be necessary to solve the problem and in regards to popular programs like social security attempting to muddy the waters with the claims that it's a 'Ponzi scheme', it's unaffordable, etc and asking for modifications with the ultimate aim of reducing its effectiveness. I think it's pretty obvious now to see the playbook, to see that the Republican's hiding of the Obamacare bill, isn't out of some kind of shame, but a recognition that what they're doing is vastly unpopular, but necessary to achieve their economic ends and so has to be hid from the public. The same with the attempt at a Constitutional Convention in which the game plan is to impose further constraints on democratic means to be a 'countervailing force' against corporate and propertied force via a small group of supporters instead of a widespread referendum.

The book isn't too long and is a good read to get into the nuts and bolts in how one of the more important theories that's taken hold of the Republican and Democratic parties and the ultimate stakes, of a return to a Southern plantation style or Company Town economic system with a few propertied players being supremely powerful vs a more egalitarian system.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 06-19-2017 at 12:30 PM.
06-20-2017 , 12:03 AM
No Good Men Among the Living - America, the Taliban, and the War Through Afghan Eyes Anand Gopal 2014

This is a fantastic book. Anand Gopal is an American journalist who has been a correspondent for the WSJ, The Christian Science Monitor and reported for Harper's, The New Yorker, The Nation, The New Republic, and Foreign Policy. IE, he is legit, vetted and comes with a reputation. You might want to know that because what he describes is truly fantastic in the sense that it could be hard to believe.

He spent at least three years in Afghanistan (like 2005-8 and went back for a time a couple years later). He traveled and interviewed many people, but focuses on a Taliban commander, a Pharmacist and his educated wife who go from Kabul to the countryside where it's a potentially deadly scandal if a woman's voice is even heard, and a pro-American warlordish person.

There is so much in here about how ****ed up Afghanistan is and how confused and counterproductive so much of what we have done has been and the same for the Soviets and the Taliban. There is a lot of personal drama and the focus is on that and one step back to the politics and the war. But, if you take another step back, although the author doesn't really go here, there is a look at the nature of people and society and politics and how different "solutions" result from different conditions.

I don't want to give any spoilers, but if you haven't been extremely skeptical about US reports of what has happened in Afghanistan you really should be. And Gitmo and prisons on US bases - there's some really awful stuff. One tiny spoiler is that we've had a bit of of problem with conducting raids, capturing, torturing and imprisoning people for years because they have the same name as someone else. Or just that we thought they did. There were two Afghans in Guantanamo who were both in there for being the same person.

Read this book please.
06-20-2017 , 12:16 AM
Alright, I'm in. I'll get hold of it and report back.
06-20-2017 , 12:20 AM
I wish Amazon would stop trying to DRM ebooks. I can circumvent it but its a pain.
06-20-2017 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I wish Amazon would stop trying to DRM ebooks. I can circumvent it but its a pain.
Get it at the library comrade.
06-20-2017 , 02:36 AM
I may be getting old but I'm not that old.

At the risk of sounding self-righteous, I'd recommend finding a way to toss the guy 10 bucks if you enjoyed the book so much. I do my fair share of dodging payment for stuff but writing a book like this is not exactly going to be a goldmine. I just had a look and it ranks #120,924 in sales on Amazon and even in books specifically about the Afghan War it's #151. Niche stuff that is valuable needs support.
06-20-2017 , 02:47 AM
The book was actually purchased by my daughter, but I would have gotten it at the library. I'm broke as a joke, have one kid starting college next year and another three years later. You're going to have to do better than that to get my $10.
07-04-2017 , 01:29 AM
The Fire & The Word - A History of the Zapatista Movement Gloria Ramirez 2008

Can anyone give me any reasons why the Zapatistas aren't awesome? Take this for example: The Zapatistas had expressed support for the separatist movement in the Basque country in Spain. The Basque political-military organization (the ETA) committed many bombings (though there were few deaths during this period) and Subcommandante Marcos sent this this message:

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We consider the struggle of the Basque people for sovereignty just and legitimate, but neither this noble cause, nor any other, can justify the sacrifice of civilian lives. Not only does it not lead to any political gain, even if it did, the human cost in unpayable. We condemn military actions that hurt civilians. And we condemn then equally, whether they come from ETA or from the Spanish state, or Al Qaeda or George W. Bush, from Israelis or Palestinians, or anyone who under different names or initials, claiming state, ideological or religious reasons, makes victims of children, women old people and men who have nothing to do with the matter.
this is from their military leader. I can't find a good quote for this now, but he's also pretty funny.

The Zapatista story is pretty remarkable, or so it seems anyway. They spent ten years organizing indigenous villages and training in the mountains. Then they declared war on the Mexican state. They were received with support from civil society and protests against the government. They were surprised by this and learning that the people of Mexico and of the world supported them, but didn't want war, they basically stopped fighting. Government forces and paramilitary groups attacked them on and off, especially in the first years and there was some fighting, but it seems like the Zapatistas only killed a handful of Mexican soldiers. Many more Zapatistas and indigenous were killed of course, though still, the total dead seem to be in the low triple digits.

The book opens with a series of testimonies from Zapatistas. It's a bit repetitive and tedious. The next section is a year by year account from 1994 through 2003. This also gets a little tedious. Next it's a Q&A with Subcommandante Marcos. That section is good. And finally something of a proclamation or description of such that came out of one of their big conferences.

There are pictures which are cool throughout, but no captions and it's not always clear what or who they are. It's not like really well written anywhere or put together well. But, I don't think there's much out there covering this and the author appears to have been one of the few journalists patient enough to get close enough to get at this story from the inside. It seems like the Zapatistas didn't necessarily stop people from coming; they had foreign journalists come and stay for a bit. But, they took a while to develop trust and not many stayed in the mountains long enough to really get a dialogue going.

I guess I recommend the book, unless someone knows of a better one on the subject.

(This book was also purchased by my daughter. Next book is a library book though.)

Last edited by microbet; 07-04-2017 at 01:36 AM.
07-04-2017 , 01:39 AM
The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945

I've been working my way through this. It's a long hard slog but a good read nontheless that discusses the Pacific theater of WWII, which I think is often overlooked. Very similar in style to Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany.
07-14-2017 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Democracy in Chains- Nancy MacLean

NPR Review

NYJB Review


Read this book on the advice of the journalist Jamelle Bouie. The book follows the path of the rise of the intellectual underpinning of American libertarianism. As someone who was around the forum when the libertarians were all over a lot of the history I knew, but the book follows someone who I had only hazily remembered, James Buchanan, the Nobel Prize winning economist and staunch libertarian who was one of the intellectual linchpins for the libertarian movement but who was eventually overtaken by the Koch's and ended up dying alone and forgotten. The author found his papers and poured over them and from them built the 'inside story' if you will the libertarian movement.

A lot of the points put out by libertarians are already pretty well known, that the genesis of modern libertarianism sprung up as a counterpoint against slavery (many libertarians count Calhoun as a progenitor), the labor movements, and the Civil Rights Movement. As a lot of posters here probably know, the hardcore libertarian movement is what the author calls a 'property supremacists' movement, where the free market and property are to be guarded against democratic encroachment. From that you get 'taxes are theft', the idea that any group movement is illegitimate, such as labor laws, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc.

The book takes the libertarian movement down a journey from a small group of true believers who thought they could win the war of ideas against left leaning economists and politicians into a autocratic secretive movement whose goals aren't to be openly pushed for but who's goals have to be achieved through secrecy. That happened because it dawned on the true believers that it turns out people enjoy Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and other government and so even the right leaning electorate wouldn't vote to get rid of them, themselves. (Why would anyone vote themselves poor?" was a critique of the idea of openly pushing the idea). So the movement shifted openly advocating the idea into seeing ways in which they could force their ideas onto an unwilling electorate ("If people choose to be enslaved, can we force them to be free?", was one question found in Buchannan's notes) via changing the rules of the game, not merely voting in a libertarian friendly candidate.

The author pinpoints Chile as being a prototype of this strategy. People know that Friedman went to Chile to supervise the Chilean government but it's less known that Buchannan, Hayek, and other hardcore libertarians went to supervise the government. There the government put up all kinds of roadblocks to any kind of democratic ability to increase taxes or shift the balance of power away from the propertied classes and the military. The author notes that this is a reoccurring theme and a paradox to the naive. If libertarians are so committed to spreading 'liberty' why was their crowing project doused in blood in Chile? Why is the time when libertarians say was the most 'moral', the time between 1850 and 1928 when there was low government intervention and high legal protections for property, also one of the most bloody in American history short of war?

The author ends the book shortly after Buchannan's death so it doesn't go into all the modern manifestation of the libertarian attempt at gaining power in the US. It does mention that the libertarian movement shifted from being apart from the Republican Party to infusing itself within it, via ALEC, the Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, mercatus Center, and its virtual takeover of the George Mason University. It mentioned the strategies in play; in attacking labor unions at the state level by putting up insurmountable roadblocks as well as, in Michigan, the taking over of local municipalities and then imposing draconian libertarian measures far above what would be necessary to solve the problem and in regards to popular programs like social security attempting to muddy the waters with the claims that it's a 'Ponzi scheme', it's unaffordable, etc and asking for modifications with the ultimate aim of reducing its effectiveness. I think it's pretty obvious now to see the playbook, to see that the Republican's hiding of the Obamacare bill, isn't out of some kind of shame, but a recognition that what they're doing is vastly unpopular, but necessary to achieve their economic ends and so has to be hid from the public. The same with the attempt at a Constitutional Convention in which the game plan is to impose further constraints on democratic means to be a 'countervailing force' against corporate and propertied force via a small group of supporters instead of a widespread referendum.

The book isn't too long and is a good read to get into the nuts and bolts in how one of the more important theories that's taken hold of the Republican and Democratic parties and the ultimate stakes, of a return to a Southern plantation style or Company Town economic system with a few propertied players being supremely powerful vs a more egalitarian system.
Lots of backlash on the intellectual rigour of this book by trusted academics, the book is very dishonest with its quotations of sources:

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/201...istory-maclean

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0969e40c4fca
07-14-2017 , 03:00 PM
Just finished two books that I really really liked:

Weapons of Math Destruction - Cathy O'Neil
Focuses on the rise of algorithms in all parts of human life, and how we're coding our biases into "fair and automated" decision making. Not totally politics related, although certainly has a lot of overlap and examples that do apply to politics. Also ties well with the following book:

The Complacent Class - Tyler Cowen
Argues that the rate of change in American society has been decelerating for the last 30+ years, and that we're more likely to see people fight to preserve what they have than try to create the next new thing. Again, touches on more than just politics, but has a lot more applicability than the last. Gets a little too apocalyptic at the end for my taste when it talks about whether complacency dooms democracy (he finished writing it in late 2016, so this is understandable) but all in all made me think a lot.

Both are super quick reads at ~200 pages.
07-14-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wotton
Lots of backlash on the intellectual rigour of this book by trusted academics, the book is very dishonest with its quotations of sources:

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/201...istory-maclean

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0969e40c4fca
I disagree with this. For one point, the experience of dealing with actual people who are libertarians. Those people don't hold democracy in high regard exactly because democracy interferes with the primacy of property rights. Another point, taking the Vox article that was written by Farrell and Teles who are

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Henry Farrell is a professor of political science at George Washington University. Steven Teles is associate professor of political science at Johns Hopkins university and senior fellow at the Niskanen Center.
which are, of course, the university and part of the non profit contallation she points are are funded by the libertarian movement. As part of the article they say

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MacLean, however, doesn’t want to explain how public choice economists think and argue. Instead, she portrays them as participants in a far-reaching conspiracy. She describes how a movement of “fifth columnists” that “congratulated itself on its ability to carry out a revolution beneath the radar of prying eyes” is looking to fundamentally undermine American democracy. She uses cloak-and-dagger language to suggest that she was only able to uncover the key files explaining what was going on because someone failed to lock “one crucial door” to a half-deserted building on George Mason University’s campus. (George Mason is the site of an unlisted and then-disorganized archive of Buchanan’s papers.)
But MacLean says that public choice theory does have some useful applications, but that the overarching point of public choice was to undermine confidence in the government, just as, for instance, the Southern Strategy leveraged racial animosity towards Conservative means while conservatives will bring up points like school busing went against the wishes of the local population. That's true, but also the overall point was the leveraging of racial animosity, not a sudden concern about involuntariness of the local schools. Pointing out the overall point and not doing into the weeds of what public choice theory is is what I'd expect from someone who is writing about a movement and not a white paper about political choice theory.

This part

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MacLean’s critics on the right also argue that there is little to no evidence supporting her most important arguments, and some of her most trenchant examples. There is no strong evidence that Buchanan was motivated to rein in state power because he opposed Brown v. Board of Education, for instance, or helped Pinochet design his authoritarian constitution, despite MacLean’s insinuations to the contrary.
aligns with what the economist Marshall Steinbaum encountered when he was putting together a paper on Friedman and Chile in that they try to kick up a lot of dust saying that, for instance, libertarians didn't meet with government officials, but private individuals but on further investigation it turns out there were a lot of government officials who happened to be in the room because of the sanctions against advising Chilean officials. In other words it's a lot of kicking up dust to confuse the point that no one really believes.

The overall feeling I got from reading the book was exactly what I expected from my dealings with libertarians in that their ultimate goal isn't some conspiracy theory. They really do want to subjugate democratic politics to the primacy of property rights and this movement has a large following among the wealthy and well off and that they funnel this money into popular movements. This isn't some surprise, it's literally the idea behind "small government". You can quibble with exactly how important Buchanan was to the project but she definitely nails the racism/libertarian/big money nexus quite nicely.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 07-14-2017 at 03:31 PM.
07-14-2017 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
I disagree with this. For one point, the experience of dealing with actual people who are libertarians. Those people don't hold democracy in high regard exactly because democracy interferes with the primacy of property rights. Another point, taking the Vox article that was written by Farrell and Teles who are

which are, of course, the university and part of the non profit contallation she points are are funded by the libertarian movement. As part of the article they say
You're confusing George Mason and George Washington University. Henry Farrell is a fairly left political scientist that blogs over at Crooked Timber - definitely not a libertarian. Steven Teles' book The Rise of the Conservative Legal Movement is excellent.
07-14-2017 , 03:30 PM
oops my bad
07-14-2017 , 04:11 PM
I listened to MacLean in a pretty long interview and it was interesting, but having read Dark Money by Mayer I'm not sure I will get to Democracy in Chains. Also I'm not familiar with Buchanon outside of MacLean's interview. But, I read the WaPo piece and wonder if they aren't both right. The Koch bros brand of libertarian pretty grossly misrepresents Hayek's positions and moderately misrepresents Friedman's. It wouldn't be shocking if they took from Buchanon what they wanted to get.
07-23-2017 , 02:38 AM
and yet... Christopher Hitchens essays, I guess published posthumously in 2015

I picked this up in the library at first just because there was an essay in it on Rosa Luxemburg that I read while there, but it was good so I checked out the book. Some of the essays are good and many are informative and it's all somewhat entertaining and witty. The essays are quite short. I'd never read Hitchens before and only saw bits and pieces of interviews on youtube and such. I was mostly familiar with him by reputation from 2p2. I knew he was on the Bill Maher, Sam Harris side on the war against Islam, but was surprised a bit that he's pretty reflexively and generally a warmonger. It's not a must read or anything, but worthwhile if you are as unfamiliar with his writing as I was.
07-23-2017 , 09:11 AM
Circa the Iraq War Hitchens basically converted to neoconservatism, from a foreign policy point of view. I own several of his essay collections and like him a lot as a writer, but his political opinions are all over the place and largely awful.
07-25-2017 , 02:38 AM
Red Rosa by Kate Evans, 2015

This is a graphic biography about Rosa Luxemburg. Yeah, a comic book sorta. It's pretty good and obviously a quick read. It's not a critical look at all. Rosa is unquestionably heroic in the book. I think that's probably fairly close to true, but it's unapologetically the objective here. In addition to the basic plot of her life it goes through rudimentary descriptions of her theories and how they conform with or depart from others, primarily Marx's. There's some depth on the German Revolution and counter-Revolution at the end of WWI.
07-25-2017 , 10:06 AM
I still have one or her books sitting on my shelf, unread.
08-10-2017 , 12:16 PM
Apparently the back and forth on MacLean's Democracy in Chains is still ongoing, but these three paragraphs are at the heart of what I took from the book

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This opens another important lens on our contemporary moment: the libertarian craving for political strongmen who will represent “freedom” while keeping a firm thumb on majority rule. Witness the hopeful glee among some libertarians that Donald Trump’s chaotic destruction and neglect of the government he was elected to lead will bring their glorious revolution ever closer.

In fact, MacLean and her critics have a core disagreement, less about how to do history (as these detractors claim), or about who is or is not racist, than about whether libertarianism itself is an ethical political philosophy that is consistent with modern democratic governance under advanced capitalism. You don’t have to have an extended quarrel about Buchanan’s intellectual biography to make an argument that he, his Virginia school, and Chicago economists like Milton Friedman, have promoted the dominance of the 1% as the best form of democracy. By making this point central to the book, MacLean has, in fact, called attention to something far more insidious about libertarianism than any racism for which it may be responsible: that its proponents view human suffering and deprivation more typical of the nineteenth century as an acceptable price for the society they wish to bring into being.

With their faux outrage about the impugning of Buchanan’s reputation, MacLean’s critics have attempted to obscure important questions her book raises about the scope and ambition of the libertarian movement, as well as its costs to democratic society. What do small government conservatives and neoliberal policymakers think they are doing when the most obvious and immediate effects of not redistributing tax money to public institutions and programs are to cause demonstrable, human pain that, for many, will be unrecoverable? What does constitute a kind of bad luck, deliberate aggression against the poor, or ethical malpractice that cannot be explained by economic theory or parables about freedom and personal responsibility? What ethical ties wed the fortunate to the unfortunate, and how should those ties be strengthened or reinforced by law and the state?
http://www.publicseminar.org/2017/08.../#.WYx95lF96Uk
08-15-2017 , 03:05 PM
Just finished Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right. It's an ethnography of a dozen or so white southern Louisianians and their relationships with work, the environment, God, etc. As someone who lives in a deep red state surrounded by Republicans this book wasn't that interesting. I could see it being interesting, perhaps, to someone who lives in a deep blue state and doesn't have a lot of access to common Republican voters, but for me, it's basically just talking to people I know.

I do think the one good detail to come out of it was the idea of a Republican deeper narrative

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Beyond the wall awaits the deep story. “A deep story is a feels-as-if story — it’s the story feelings tell, in the language of symbols,” Hochschild writes. “It removes judgment. It removes fact.” The deep story she unearths in Louisiana is that tea party supporters — “my Tea Party friends,” she always calls them, because only liberals rate pure, modifier-free friendship — see the American Dream as a line that they’re patiently waiting in, only to see others cut in front. “Blacks, women, immigrants, refugees, brown pelicans — all have cut ahead of you in line,” Hochschild writes. “But it’s people like you who have made this country great. You feel uneasy. . . . You’ve heard stories of oppressed blacks, dominated women, weary immigrants, closeted gays, desperate refugees, but at some point, you say to yourself, you have to close the borders to human sympathy.”

The deep story helps Hochschild unpack the great paradox: that is, why people living in a region with such poor economic, educational and health indicators — and Louisiana struggles in all of them — still support politicians who call for reducing federal help in those arenas.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.55befc255d30

but to anyone who's been around Republicans know that, for the top X percent, those people at the bottom who are waiting for their chance at the American Dream are just 'line cutters' of a different sort and aren't any different from immigrants, blacks, or whomever. The ending chapters about Donald Trump makes it hard to empathize with them as well. The book goes over that Donald Trump's appeal is that he lets them be free from the shackles of all these 'feeling rules' that liberals have put on them and so they're free to say what they really want to say. But what they want to say, when it comes down to it, are some pretty ugly and narcissistic things.
08-15-2017 , 05:34 PM
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+1, Thoreau was the OG civil disobedience guy, doesn't get nearly enough love.
After Socrates and Jesus... I'm sure there are others, but much love for Thoreau's work.
08-20-2017 , 04:20 PM
Anybody read "The Death of Expertise?"
09-07-2017 , 12:33 PM
I haven't, but I hear it's interesting along with The Ideas Industry
09-07-2017 , 01:15 PM
At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America by Philip Dray

A history of lynchings in America from after the Civil War until the 1960's. What struck me about this book is how much like a horror novel black Americans have lived in since the Civil War.

The basic sociological premise of lynchings could be summed up as

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Sociologist Orlando Patterson has explained the obsessive, ritualized killing of black males in the 1890s by suggesting that the South’s dominant fundamentalist Christianity combined with its Lost Cause ideology to create a belief system in which the black man was perceived as an enemy within Southern society—the cause of a humiliating defeat in war and an ever-expanding threat, via miscegenation, to its perpetuity and survival.

Dray, Philip. At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America (Modern Library Paperbacks) (Kindle Locations 1639-1642). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
You hear echos of that, of course, in white nationalists calling people 'cucks' and in 'white genocide'.

Lynchings were often public spectacles by mob rule with notices going to neighboring cities and caravans of cars meeting up in fields with people selling food and entertainment until the lynching started.

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Lynching was an undeniable part of daily life, as distinctly American as baseball games and church suppers. Men brought their wives and children along to the events, posed for commemorative photographs, and purchased souvenirs of the occasion as if they had been at a company picnic.

Dray, Philip. At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America (Modern Library Paperbacks) (Kindle Locations 446-448). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
The causes of lynchings were officially usually rape of white women by black men or murders of white people by black men. But unofficially they were public events to reify the racial caste system. Consensual sexual relations between white women and black men, if found out, became a reason for lynching the man. Many times the women became complicit claiming rape in order to protect their reputation and several men were put to death by burning while still speaking in sweet tones to their paramours.
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A white woman and Coy had been intimate for some time, and the mob compelled her to make charges of rape against him and even to participate in the lynching. When she was led to the pyre and confronted her former paramour, now trussed and bound, he affectionately called her name and asked plaintively how she could set him on fire after they had “been sweethearting” for so long.

Dray, Philip. At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America (Modern Library Paperbacks) (Kindle Locations 1516-1518). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Disagreements between white employers and black employees could turn into lynchings if the black employee was deemed uppity or belligerent, of if a black man/woman got too rich by virtue of simply being wealthy became an insult to whites who interacted with him/her who then took the victim's wealth for themselves.

As foreigners investors got wind of lynchings and WW2's fascism made the contrast between American claims of freedom and lynchings unbearable, public lynchings eventually disappeared in the 1930's, and was replaced with more secretive lynchings like Emmett Till and that of black GIs after the war. The sad conclusion of the book as the book itself points out was repeated efforts to end lynchings failed and there never was an official "end" to lynchings, they just kind of died out.

Here's some odds and ends in the book

The contrast between white women's purity and white men's actions

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Author Lillian Smith, in her memoir Killers of the Dream, notes: The more trails the white man made to backyard cabins, the higher he raised his white wife on her pedestal when he returned to the big house. The higher txpedestal, the less he enjoyed her whom he had put there, for statues after all are only nice things to look at. More and more numerous became the little trails of escape from the statuary and more and more intricately they began to weave in and out of Southern life.

Dray, Philip. At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America (Modern Library Paperbacks) (Kindle Locations 1468-1472). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
the "You don't know what it's like to live in this situation" gambit was used

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The idea that lynchers were simply following nature’s laws infiltrated the North as well. Yankees were to restrain judgment against Southerners, it was said, because they were largely exempt from the constant fear of sexual apocalypse. As the New York Herald lectured Northern whites, “[T]he difference between bad citizens who believe in lynch law, and good citizens who abhor lynch law, is largely in the fact that the good citizens live where their wives and daughters are perfectly safe.” Texas journalist W. C. Brann reminded Northerners upset about lynching that he would gladly send them all the South’s black people, but that they had better “put sheet-iron lingerie” on the Statue of Liberty or some morning they would “find the old girl with her head mashed in and bearing the marks of sexual violence.”

Dray, Philip. At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America (Modern Library Paperbacks) (Kindle Locations 1500-1506). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
The "What about black-on-black crime?" gambit was used

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Page repeated what had become a mantra for lynching apologists—that “if papers and men, remote from them, said as much to the negro concerning the enormity of rape as they say to the white people concerning the enormity of lynching, raping would become less common.”

Dray, Philip. At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America (Modern Library Paperbacks) (Kindle Locations 2890-2892). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
The NAACP got two tickets to a preview screening of the Birth of the Nation

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The board then issued two tickets to the NAACP for a preview screening with the stipulation that only white members of the organization were welcome to attend.

Dray, Philip. At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America (Modern Library Paperbacks) (Kindle Locations 3967-3969). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Blatant propagandist, in this case director of Birth of a Nation, challenging people to find one thing wrong with something and when someone does shuts up and doesn't say anything situation

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Peeved, Griffith said he would donate ten thousand dollars to charity if anyone in the room could name a single scene in the film that was not true. Storey asked if a black lieutenant governor of South Carolina had ever locked a white woman in a closet and refused to release her unless she agreed to marry him. Griffith did not answer directly, nor did he make any such contribution. At the meeting’s close, Storey refused to shake hands with Griffith. It was the first time anyone could remember that a white man had refused to shake the hand of another white man over the rights of black people, and it won Storey great praise from his NAACP colleagues.

Dray, Philip. At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America (Modern Library Paperbacks) (Kindle Locations 4010-4014). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
and a great summation of the history of lynching

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Johnson had a sudden insight, one that would guide the rest of his long battle against lynching: I reassembled the picture in my mind: a lone Negro in the hands of his accusers, who for the time being are no longer human; he is chained to a stake, wood is piled under and around him, and five thousand men and women, women with babies in their arms and babies in their wombs, look on with pitiless anticipation, with sadistic satisfaction while he is baptized with gasoline and set afire. . . . I tried to balance the sufferings of the miserable victim against the moral degradation of Memphis, and the truth flashed over me that in large measure the race question involves the saving of black America’s body and white America’s soul.

Dray, Philip. At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America (Modern Library Paperbacks) (Kindle Locations 4623-4628). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

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