Not sure why you think this forum is a representative sample.

Poker players are clearly NOT predominantly liberal. Not even close.

Successful poker players on the other hand seem to be though.

LMAO, you think rich people are rich because they are smart and skilled at what they do. Does this mean you think poor people are stupid? That would make you a conservative. This administration is full of rich idiots, how can you ignore that evidence?

You also make it sound like liberals don't like money? Liberals like money, they just don't like it more than anything else in the world. Liberals want everyone to play with table stakes which promotes a fairer game than letting the guy with the most money scare everyone out of the pot.

Poker is a game. It doesn't really apply to anything but itself. I can play Chaotic Evil characters in D&D and not be pro murder and mayhem.

This.

no ****. i'll scroll down some to gauge the reaction but i'm not holding out any hope

alright, **** it. since this was portrayed as some firing of shots at poker players, i guess i'll respond.

yea, you're a moron. glad we at least got that out of the way early.

lol

it is neither a contradiction nor hypocritical to have a charitable worldview and enjoy competing in a game of skill. i'd prefer that when some idiot makes a terrible decision and donks off his life savings to me, that he'd have some form of a social safety net to fall back on tho.

this is one of the dumbest things i've ever heard. poker is a competition and results are measured in dollars won/lost. running a business isn't just a competition, it's providing a service and potentially adding value to the community. apples to oranges brah

i know right? so this arguably means that liberals like me are MORE bootstrappy than their fake right wing counterparts. but smart poker players get together to help each other off the tables and gain better insight re: effective strategies, so it's not entirely a solo endeavor. i've learned so much from others, i'd never be able to figure this **** out by myself. and this is all to say nothing of staking organizations who bankroll winning players and provide opportunities they may not otherwise have.

this is a laughable generalization. self-earners of all stripes underreport their income (i am not justifying the practice, just pointing out that your focus on poker players is dumb), but the idea that you could play poker professionally for years and report no income, pay no taxes, and then go out and secure a loan or finance anything of substance is just so lol

wrong, most people can afford to lose the money they wager, but i didn't force anybody to sit down at the table with me

part of being socially liberal means allowing people the freedom to make choices about what works best for them. you're advocating a nanny-state mentality where people are assumed to lack self-control and should be protected from themselves. i'm not into that- people can make decisions for themselves and then deal with the consequences, but again, i would prefer a system of government and society where people weren't uncessarily/excessively punished for those poor choices, and were allowed greater means to get back up onto their feet after they fall down.

^^word salad and you've exposed exactly zero hypocrisy in liberals or poker players

i'll probably go back through the thread and skim some replies because i'm sure that there have been some pretty apt and hilarious dunkings on this clown, but it's super obvious that this guy is just some busto loser who gave up on his failed dreams of being a poker player, never realized or accepted the fact that he was nowhere as good as he thought he was, and instead of getting over it and moving on with his life, he's so pathetic that he still lurks the poker forum and trolls for attention with all his bitterness and resentment about being an unhappy donk

head over to NVG, you'll fit in better

You're in denial if you don't recognize poker players are winning money from problem gamblers, directly or indirectly.

The problem gamblers contribute a lot to keeping the entire poker pyramid alive.

mother****er, obviously i take money from problem gamblers. and idgaf either. why do you think NFL season is so good for poker games on sites with sportsbooks attached? what i actually objected to was the statement that "you're hurting other people every time you win", which is clearly wrong.

Sometimes people put the cart before the horse. Take control of government first, then purity test to get the center-right lot out.

Whenever I played (not a lot these days), the biggest political talkers were right-wing.

They also seemed to be the biggest losers and complained the most about bad luck when it happened. When they succeed, bootstrapping. When they fail it's bad luck. When minorities succeed, they always think it's because the government did it for them because in their minds they can't succeed on their own merits.

Straight up bigotry

fyp

this is super elite and i hope the subtlety didn't get lost on anyone.

Being a winning poker player is about divorcing yourself from emotion and making the right play. Right-wingers are too fear based. They get stacked on an otherwise correct play, and the next time they get in a similar spot their amygdala lights up: "Well last time I CRed with a straight on the river I got hosed. Better just call."

and used car salesmen whose bread and butter is duping little old ladies into paying 2-3x fair market value occasionally also sell cars that don't have undisclosed problems.

dgaf lol!!!


if your life options are so limited that poker is far the best option you shouldn't feel any horrible guilt but at least be honest with yourself about being a parasite. because then if other reasonable options present themselves you can at least have an honest internal dialogue about how much you're willing to sacrifice to not be a burden on society (and the social ramifications that will quickly become apparent when you stop lying to yourself).

Oprah Winfrey, liberal, billionaire
Mike Bloomberg, liberal, billionaire
Bill Gates, liberal, billionaire
Just to name a few. Why do conservative 's think liberals hate money?
Brainwashed? Hmm.

haha another busto loser who just cant let go of his failed dreams and move on

2005, lol. find a new hobby my dude

lol i just checked out abbaddabba's post history and saw that he tried to sell a package to essentially freeroll the 2018 main event with a (lol) 1.2 markup touting some meager results from pre-2010. 0 replies. ****ing amazing if it weren't so predictable, guy calls me a parasite while he's literally trying to hustle the marketplace for a stake/package that is undoubtedly -EV for any investor.

i know you're probably salty about the game passing you by, but no need to take it out on me homie

no money selling packages, everyone's solid

I don't think this is correct, this is just a thing people like to say to dunk on leftists. Do you have evidence that it's something Rs don't do and that it leads to them having greater success?

Regarding "take power, then start arguing from the left", many of us believe that a large reason for Dems' electoral failures is that the worldview and vision that they present to voters is incoherent corporate-serving bull**** that needs to be swept away.

Not from this forum specifically, but a link to a study. I have it posted in this forum if you are interested: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...dings-1727851/

I think people generally end up with the wealth-class that they are born into. However, being highly skilled in a specific field will likely make you successful. I never said anything about intelligence in my original post, but I don't doubt that it would help.

mostly he measures socialism by how much of a shthole country it is.

but really, the reason venezuela sucks is bc its entirely corrupt and the goverment is virtually totalitarian. kinda the direction our country is moving.

can we just fragg ppl who say dumbass things?

Republicans have no standard for logical consistency, past behavior/opinions, or current beliefs. If you agree with them on topic A, they are happy when it comes to topic A. They will never bring up topic B, C, and D in order to drag you for your opinions on those. That's my only point.

If a centrist or reformed Republican or never Trumper or whatever is genuinely on your side on this one issue, just enjoy the moment and move on with the push to win the issue. Now is not the time to start probing for purity or bring up some old post about a different issue.

When the US is like Iceland - or at the very least when we're not teetering on the brink of fascism - then frag away to your heart's content.

Lmao obliterated the poor bastard