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02-09-2019 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I'm not sure on exactly the timing, but I think this was prior to child abuse research kicking off in the 70s - prior to that the estimate of how many children were sexually abused within their homes was one in a MILLION. What the ****.
That is weird, considering I would've thought Freud kind of blew the whistle on that well beforehand. LOL Freud and all, but hey, stopped clocks etc.
02-09-2019 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
That is weird, considering I would've thought Freud kind of blew the whistle on that well beforehand. LOL Freud and all, but hey, stopped clocks etc.
Freud later abandoned his theory of widespread sexual abuse. See here.
02-09-2019 , 07:59 AM
Fair enough, I guess.
02-09-2019 , 08:47 AM
See, 1 hour of listening to this podcast called You're Wrong About and already random posters in my orbit are Wrong About things. Such is the power of the podcast.
02-11-2019 , 12:50 AM
Listening to the After-School Special ep at the moment. Pretty interesting to me because it's completely out of my cultural orbit. I've never even heard the phrase before.

The best ep so far was the crack babies one. Pretty good primer on systemic racism for people who aren't familiar with the ideas.
02-11-2019 , 09:54 AM
The Drop Out, about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos, is phenomenal (and jaw dropping).
02-12-2019 , 03:20 AM
I know the latest Chapo guest from DSA, and took part in the union rally and canvassing that he talks about.

https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-ho...e-belden-21019
02-12-2019 , 12:54 PM
That latest Chapo about the neocon war criminal guy was legitimately disturbing to listen to. That guy is evil.
02-12-2019 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
That latest Chapo about the neocon war criminal guy was legitimately disturbing to listen to. That guy is evil.
Seriously, the smartest serial killers don't **** about with the odd prostitute here and there they go into government and kill millions. You even get a sweet pension.
02-12-2019 , 03:21 PM
Gonna give CTH another try since you guys won't shut up about it
02-12-2019 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Gonna give CTH another try since you guys won't shut up about it
They pwn the **** out of Jon Lovett in episode 286
02-14-2019 , 01:54 PM
I just listened to the first half of Ezra Klein's two-hour conversation with Andrew Sullivan.

It's pretty tame for awhile, and then about 45 minutes in Sullivan goes on this wild rant that reads just like a juan valdez post, about how the new illiberal left is banning you from saying there's a difference between men and women, and how all white men are evil, and all this crap that reflects traditional conservative views of "identity politics".

Klein asks him a pretty simple question: "who is the most powerful person that you think believes in all the things you just said?"

Sullivan says, well uh, Kirsten Gillibrand tweeted something the other day about "the future is female and intersectional", so clearly she believes it!

Klein being Klein, he goes on a long "well this is what I think that tweet means" explanation rather than the more succinct reply of "lol".

Not sure if I'd recommend others listen given that it's two hours, but that happened.
02-14-2019 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
They pwn the **** out of Jon Lovett in episode 286
I first read this as "Jon Lovitz" and was about to be upset but I'll allow this
02-14-2019 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I just listened to the first half of Ezra Klein's two-hour conversation with Andrew Sullivan.
EK's podcast has such wild swings between fascinating and absolutely abysmal, when I saw this episode and then saw it was two ****ing hours I insta-deleted it
02-14-2019 , 03:53 PM
Ezra Klein has the most boring voice on earth. Even when he's saying something I would find fascinating if it was in printed text in front of my face, I start to zone out.
02-14-2019 , 07:27 PM
Wild, dude. I think I would have to be repeatedly electrocuted before I would consent to listening to a 2 hour long Ezra Klein/Andrew Sullivan podcast.

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Klein asks him a pretty simple question: "who is the most powerful person that you think believes in all the things you just said?"
This is what I keep saying to a friend who keeps posting me bull**** about the campus Left. He never has an answer.
02-14-2019 , 10:28 PM
I was initially turned off by the arrogant tone and inside jokes, but I’ve come around and am now a Chapo fan. Their good content is fantastic. Episode 129 on heath care is way better than anything else I’ve heard on the topic.

Note that the right doesn’t have an equivalent because their policy preferences are wholly unsupportable if you know things.
02-14-2019 , 11:44 PM
Not only that Riverman, basically every right wing "intellectual" or grifter makes money by ****ting on pop culture to boomers.
02-14-2019 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
I was initially turned off by the arrogant tone and inside jokes, but I’ve come around and am now a Chapo fan. Their good content is fantastic. Episode 129 on heath care is way better than anything else I’ve heard on the topic.

Note that the right doesn’t have an equivalent because their policy preferences are wholly unsupportable if you know things.
They're probably the most hit-or-miss podcast out there but their hits are excellent. It's enough for me to make them the only Patreon account I donate to.
02-15-2019 , 12:09 AM
I've been debating the patreon for like a year. It's worth it, but I have like ~8 hours of podcasts a week as is.
02-15-2019 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
I've been debating the patreon for like a year. It's worth it, but I have like ~8 hours of podcasts a week as is.
It's a tough world out there. I think I'd be thrilled to be down to 8 hours.
02-15-2019 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
I was initially turned off by the arrogant tone and inside jokes, but I’ve come around and am now a Chapo fan. Their good content is fantastic. Episode 129 on heath care is way better than anything else I’ve heard on the topic.

Note that the right doesn’t have an equivalent because their policy preferences are wholly unsupportable if you know things.
I've listened to almost every episode. If I wrote serious criticism of Chapo it would look like this:

They don't actually really propose anything. They are for "socialism", whatever that is, they tend not to elaborate. On the episode they had Marxist economics professor Richard Wolff on (ep 186), Wolff said, reasonably, that escaping from feudalism into democracy had required a few bites at the cherry, and was once seen as equally utopian, so it's not surprising that socialism would take a few tries to get right. He allowed that they had learnt some things, like "too much state power is bad", whereupon Will jumped in saying "hang on, state power is also really useful, right?". Meanwhile, Nathan Robinson at Current Affairs is, like Noam Chomsky, a "libertarian socialist" meaning he doesn't support state socialism at all. These people have wildly different political ideologies, they simply share an ethical ideology, and not proposing anything concrete allows them to paper over these differences. To me it's terrifying to think about people who haven't sorted out basic questions like "how much power should the State have and how should that be controlled" having power over anything.

They have a tendency to stereotype when they don't know much about things (although this is partly for comic effect). Matt once described Australia as being the only country comparable to the US in terms of how right-wing it was, using the offshore refugee situation as justification. OK, that's one issue. On virtually everything else - law and order, workplace relations and entitlements, immigration writ large, militarism, education, healthcare, etc etc - Australia is substantially to the left of the US, although to the right of most Western European countries. I'm not reflexively defending Australia here, I hate the place in many ways, but it's like forming an opinion on the US when all you know about it is enhanced interrogation and Guantanamo, let's say.

The positives well outweigh this for me, but yeah.
02-15-2019 , 09:39 AM
Their dead on criticism of establishment democrats and pundits is something I can’t get anywhere else. The reading series is some of the funniest content I’ve come across anywhere, ever.
02-15-2019 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
They have a tendency to stereotype when they don't know much about things (although this is partly for comic effect). Matt once described Australia as being the only country comparable to the US in terms of how right-wing it was, using the offshore refugee situation as justification. OK, that's one issue. On virtually everything else - law and order, workplace relations and entitlements, immigration writ large, militarism, education, healthcare, etc etc - Australia is substantially to the left of the US, although to the right of most Western European countries. I'm not reflexively defending Australia here, I hate the place in many ways, but it's like forming an opinion on the US when all you know about it is enhanced interrogation and Guantanamo, let's say.
If Australia is to the right of most Western European countries, and arguably to the right of the US on immigration, isn't it then the most comparable country to the US in terms of how right-wing it is? Thats not saying that Australia is as right-wing as US, but that its the only western country anywhere close.
02-15-2019 , 12:36 PM
Chapo had a significant effect on my moving left, by helping to slowly chip away at my belief that "free markets" were a real and magical and good thing.

They also have mentiond "organizing" and unionizing enough, and the overall importance of these more grassroots efforts to the greater project. This is something that the left needs to do better at. When you start to attract people like me who were largely big fans of the CNN "horse race" aspect of electoral politics (while having some silly ideology like libertarianism or "cancel all white men"), you need to show them that electoral politics are only the tiniest piece of the puzzle and that there's so much more you can and should be doing.

Chapo, and especially Christman, taught me a lot of that although it was a slow process.

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Originally Posted by Riverman
Their dead on criticism of establishment democrats and pundits is something I can’t get anywhere else. The reading series is some of the funniest content I’ve come across anywhere, ever.
Well if you like the reading series we have somewhat different taste in humor, but for the other part it doesn't get much better than Michael & Us. Especially the episodes where they're actually attacking Michael Moore (from the left of course - though some Moore movies such as the latest one are actually good).

One of the hosts can "go off" sometimes where he does fake monologues as say Moore or Penn Gillette or whatever and it's perf.

Last edited by Baltimore Jones; 02-15-2019 at 12:43 PM.

      
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