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Paul Ryan, Face of Republican Fiscal Responsibility, Shamelessly Joins Fox Board Paul Ryan, Face of Republican Fiscal Responsibility, Shamelessly Joins Fox Board

07-11-2011 , 08:47 AM
07-11-2011 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by intheireye!
Ya, see thats a problem for someone hoping to run for higher office one day.
So would him coming out as gay. It doesn't make it right for it to be an issue (and believe me, it would be an issue beyond any supposed hypocrisy it represented).
07-11-2011 , 12:52 PM
I cringed before clicking this thread, but Politards have redeemed themselves.

I'm glad at least most of you realize what an absolute non-story this is.
07-11-2011 , 12:57 PM
the real question is EDF's opinion of the wine.
08-29-2012 , 10:35 PM
LOL @ THIS CLOWN
08-29-2012 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Dont worry, the Republicans will balance the budget by not paying for abortions of women who were raped.
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I totally nailed that prediction last year. Though apparently by plugging this question into google America's government doesnt pay for rapebabies anyway. Which makes the post doubler awesome iyam.
08-29-2012 , 11:38 PM
Paul Ryan currently the smartest guy in Washington
08-29-2012 , 11:39 PM
That's saying a lot, considering he's in Florida aorn
08-30-2012 , 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
If you actually gave Paul Ryan authoritarian power over US finance, raises taxes on the poor, cut taxes for the rich, and blow up defense spending all while doing jack **** about deficit.

He's gotta play nice. Clipped wings make it difficult to make radical changes so you've gotta start somewhere.

For instance, Ryan would implement the flat tax and disband the IRS tomorrow if you let him.
fyp
10-11-2012 , 10:22 PM
LOL @ THIS GUY
10-12-2012 , 12:52 AM
From clown to guy. IMPROVEMENT!
04-01-2014 , 07:01 PM
LOL RYAN BUDGET

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...&mg=reno64-wsj

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House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) Tuesday proposed eliminating the government's budget deficit in 10 years through major changes to Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps and other programs—and took the controversial step of counting in assumptions on how the plan would spur economic growth.
OK, well we assumed he was making **** up...

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The fiscal year 2015 budget blueprint is a largely political document that establishes House Republicans' commitment to eliminating the deficit as a top priority. Mr. Ryan says it would cut $5.1 trillion in projected spending over a decade, with 40% of that coming from simply repealing the Affordable Care Act.
looooooool

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Mr. Ryan this year has opted to incorporate an estimated economic boost that he says would result from reducing the deficit, in turn lowering interest rates and spurring growth.
bwahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

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For example, Mr. Ryan estimates that in 2024, the government under his plan would spend $4.995 trillion and bring in $4.926 trillion in revenue. That would result in a deficit of $69 billion.

But the budget includes a new line item that didn't exist in his past proposals, which Mr. Ryan has labeled "macroeconomic fiscal impact" and which he says would further reduce the deficit by $74 billion that year. This would result in a $5 billion net surplus.
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This year's House GOP budget includes greater savings than last year's plan from repealing the Affordable Care Act, the president's 2010 health care overhaul. It includes $2.066 trillion in savings over 10 years from scrapping the health law, compared to $1.783 trillion in last year's plan.

This element has long proven controversial, though, as the CBO has said repealing the law would actually make the deficit worse in the next decade. It wasn't immediately clear how this year's additional savings would materialize.
Translation: he's making **** up.
04-01-2014 , 07:19 PM
Paul Ryan has a great budget!....for me to poop on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04-01-2014 , 07:34 PM
Formulating Ryan's budget every year has to be the cushiest accounting gig going.

"these numbers we made up dont result in a surplus!" "so just invent a new one entirely, plus another 5 billion"
04-01-2014 , 07:45 PM
Im assuming lowering interest rates are vs some baseline forecast, which makes it less amusing.

Im not looking through this wishcasting document in detail, but in the last budget of his I that I did look through 5-6% trend line growth sort of solved all problems. Guess maybe he's renamed that "macroeconomic fiscal impact".

The idea of dynamic budgeting is good, but if the adjustments end up showing 5-6% annual growth in the US during a ****ty demographic period, it might be time to check the numbers again before building a fiscal plan out around it.

EDIT: looks like only a 4.6% CAGR in GDP this time, so moving in the right direction! Sweet 6.3% growth in '17 when Obama leaves office/ACA gets repealed, that will happen exactly never.

Last edited by LetsGambool; 04-01-2014 at 08:01 PM.
04-01-2014 , 08:49 PM
There should be some award for driest fiction award which people have to take seriously.
04-01-2014 , 11:28 PM
I'd give him some credit if he'd cut into military spending and stop using fuzzy math.
04-02-2014 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
Im assuming lowering interest rates are vs some baseline forecast, which makes it less amusing.

Im not looking through this wishcasting document in detail, but in the last budget of his I that I did look through 5-6% trend line growth sort of solved all problems. Guess maybe he's renamed that "macroeconomic fiscal impact".

The idea of dynamic budgeting is good, but if the adjustments end up showing 5-6% annual growth in the US during a ****ty demographic period, it might be time to check the numbers again before building a fiscal plan out around it.

EDIT: looks like only a 4.6% CAGR in GDP this time, so moving in the right direction! Sweet 6.3% growth in '17 when Obama leaves office/ACA gets repealed, that will happen exactly never.
Which is more credible, Simpson-Bowles, Paul Ryan, or Rand Paul on the budget? Obama's budgets are at best loltastic so far. Senate finally passed a budget recently didn't they after many years of continuing resolutions? If we're seeing fed govt revenues at 18.5% of GDP then obviously the right course is to increase economic growth and slow spending growth at the same time. Anyone that claims running substantial deficits (like 4%+ of a GDP) consistently over a number of years will have no effect on the social safety net is an idiot.
04-02-2014 , 12:20 AM
We can still lol at Paul Ryan's bull**** regardless of what you think Adios.
04-02-2014 , 02:52 AM
Adios-land where actual budgets that actually get implemented are the same as campaign show-piece fairy dust.
04-02-2014 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
Which is more credible, Simpson-Bowles, Paul Ryan, or Rand Paul on the budget? Obama's budgets are at best loltastic so far. Senate finally passed a budget recently didn't they after many years of continuing resolutions? If we're seeing fed govt revenues at 18.5% of GDP then obviously the right course is to increase economic growth and slow spending growth at the same time. Anyone that claims running substantial deficits (like 4%+ of a GDP) consistently over a number of years will have no effect on the social safety net is an idiot.
You don't know what economic growth is or how it is achieved if you think cutting government spending is smart during a weak economy. It would have created a demand death spiral making things considerably worse if they cut spending after the 2007/08 recession.
04-02-2014 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
Which is more credible, Simpson-Bowles, Paul Ryan, or Rand Paul on the budget? Obama's budgets are at best loltastic so far. Senate finally passed a budget recently didn't they after many years of continuing resolutions? If we're seeing fed govt revenues at 18.5% of GDP then obviously the right course is to increase economic growth and slow spending growth at the same time. Anyone that claims running substantial deficits (like 4%+ of a GDP) consistently over a number of years will have no effect on the social safety net is an idiot.
That's great and all, but we aren't going to grow at 4.7 percent a year so Ryan arguing this budget controls the deficit using that assumption is not accurate. I'm sure there's some stuff in there that I would agree with, but the budget doesn't control the deficit even taking things like "repealing ACA saves two trillion" at face value.

I think the Obama budget overestimated growth it wasn't as dramatic from what I remember. Something just north of 3.5 percent iirc.
04-02-2014 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
You don't know what economic growth is or how it is achieved if you think cutting government spending is smart during a weak economy. It would have created a demand death spiral making things considerably worse if they cut spending after the 2007/08 recession.
Haha Phil the walkin and talkin economic sage. BTW US recession ended in June of 2009 before stimulus kicked in. Be that as it may LOL at you selecting Obama budget which one year was rejected in the Senate 96-0.
04-02-2014 , 08:50 AM
Ryan's faith based budget. Goes through and shows how Ryan isn't a serious policy maker, just another ideological clown

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/02..._r=1&referrer=
04-02-2014 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Ryan's faith based budget. Goes through and shows how Ryan isn't a serious policy maker, just another ideological clown

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/02..._r=1&referrer=
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He cuts nondefense discretionary spending by $791 billion over 10 years below the inadequate levels already agreed on with the Senate. That will mean vast cuts to education, public works, job training, medical research, housing and nutrition aid. But he would raise military spending by $483 billion over the current 10-year caps.
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