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11-27-2018 , 10:42 AM
Thickening

11-27-2018 , 10:47 AM
well idk about you guys but i am just absolutely SHOCKED to read this

how hilarious would it be if julian neglecting his cat is what prompted this disclosure/leak
11-27-2018 , 10:49 AM
"trump taken down by embassycat" seems like the most fitting headline to conclude all of this
11-27-2018 , 10:51 AM
I'm mean that's literal evidence of "collusion"
11-27-2018 , 10:58 AM
I don’t know much about doing these kinds of shenanigans, but don’t you have to know that when you have your secret meetups with Assange and Russians in an embassy there’s gonna be a trail of evidence? I assume the US is monitoring who comes in/out, to say nothing of the Ecuadorians.
11-27-2018 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I don’t know much about doing these kinds of shenanigans, but don’t you have to know that when you have your secret meetups with Assange and Russians in an embassy there’s gonna be a trail of evidence? I assume the US is monitoring who comes in/out, to say nothing of the Ecuadorians.
This kind of thing also just blows my mind in terms of how ineffective investigative journalism in America is. Like - it took us 2.5 years to figure out that Trump's campaign chairman visited the person who hacked his opponent's emails in a ****ing Guatemalan embassy in the midst of the campaign? How? How was this kept secret for so long? How is there not a full team of journalists whose job is to do nothing but go through Trump's senior officials' itineraries for the past few years and verify their travel?

It's terrifying how brazenly people can break the law and a.) nobody even finds out until years later and b.) nobody cares when they find out.
11-27-2018 , 11:20 AM
how are you gonna go through a non-government official's "itinerary" for the past X months or years?
11-27-2018 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers
This kind of thing also just blows my mind in terms of how ineffective investigative journalism in America is. Like - it took us 2.5 years to figure out that Trump's campaign chairman visited the person who hacked his opponent's emails in a ****ing Guatemalan embassy in the midst of the campaign? How? How was this kept secret for so long? How is there not a full team of journalists whose job is to do nothing but go through Trump's senior officials' itineraries for the past few years and verify their travel?
The snarky answer would be that this would use up much-needed column space to talk about Hillary's e-mails.

It would also be the correct answer.
11-27-2018 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
how are you gonna go through a non-government official's "itinerary" for the past X months or years?
I don't know. How does Ronan Farrow get 20 years of evidence of sexual abuse in a few months of investigation? I'd guess largely because other people just haven't looked into it before.

Like, isn't a lot of what a campaign manager does every day public record? And there are hundreds or thousands of people you can interview to follow up on details.

For organizations who pay people to sit on tv and argue about every ****ing minute thing that Trump says 24/7, it doesn't seem like too much to ask to also do SOME investigation that's more than being a mouthpiece for the administration. Again - how hard could it be to figure out that this embassy visit happened? The wikileaks thing has been a news story for over 2 years now - nobody ever thought to like, look into whether any of Trump's people visited him?
11-27-2018 , 11:30 AM
Either trolling or just absolutely amazing timing

11-27-2018 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers
I don't know. How does Ronan Farrow get 20 years of evidence of sexual abuse in a few months of investigation? I'd guess largely because other people just haven't looked into it before.

Like, isn't a lot of what a campaign manager does every day public record? And there are hundreds or thousands of people you can interview to follow up on details.

For organizations who pay people to sit on tv and argue about every ****ing minute thing that Trump says 24/7, it doesn't seem like too much to ask to also do SOME investigation that's more than being a mouthpiece for the administration. Again - how hard could it be to figure out that this embassy visit happened? The wikileaks thing has been a news story for over 2 years now - nobody ever thought to like, look into whether any of Trump's people visited him?
Dunno, I feel like the embassies keep these records pretty secret. Not sure how journalists get that other than through leaks.
11-27-2018 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Dunno, I feel like the embassies keep these records pretty secret. Not sure how journalists get that other than through leaks.
Well one phone call from the US ambassador would also do it. It's a near lock that our DEEP STATE knew about it as it happened and it is so galling that our government kept a lid on it.
11-27-2018 , 11:41 AM
i'm telling you guys it's the cat that did it
11-27-2018 , 11:43 AM
What? Why wouldn’t the US keep this kind of intelligence gathering a secret? If they’re investigatin Assange, I think they have a legitimate reason to not tell reporters.
11-27-2018 , 11:44 AM
I dunno to keep the literal WOAT from becoming president? I can think of other reasons but few better ones.
11-27-2018 , 11:48 AM
Chris Hayes called the sourcing "thin," if this turns into another "Junior is getting indicted this Friday" I'm gonna lose my mind.
11-27-2018 , 11:56 AM
IF TRUE it confirms yet another aspect of the Steele dossier

page 8

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"the operation had been conducted with the full knowledge and support of TRUMP and senior members of his campaign team."
11-27-2018 , 12:06 PM
YES COLLUSION
11-27-2018 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Chris Hayes called the sourcing "thin," if this turns into another "Junior is getting indicted this Friday" I'm gonna lose my mind.
Color me skeptical. I don’t know how three visits with such a high-profile person would be missed this long. It’s too obvious to have been missed—it’s not like no one is ever watching the Ecuadorian embassy where Assange is hiding.
11-27-2018 , 01:05 PM
Putting two and two together, it seems like this meeting is what Muller caught Manafort perjuring himself about. Amazing he didn’t think Muller would find out about it.
11-27-2018 , 01:15 PM
11-27-2018 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by alazo1985
So I went to all of these people's twitter - all of them are basing their conclusion on 1.) the embassy logs don't show the visits, and 2.) WikiLeaks denies it.

That seems like pretty weak evidence? I guess I'll wait on corroboration from other outlets, but the fact that a bunch of WikiLeaks fans are stooping for WikiLeaks isn't that newsworthy imo.
11-27-2018 , 01:47 PM
I wonder if maybe Muller cracked this entire case in a week and has just been goofing off and playing PlayStation in his office for the past year.
11-27-2018 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
i'm telling you guys it's the cat that did it
Reminds me of an old farmer's daughter joke. It ends, "It's the cat!"

However unlikely it seems that Manafort showed up at Assange's to discuss feline hygiene and whatever tangential topics, let's remember that at the bottom of this is that Donald ****ing Trump conspired with Vladimir Putin to rig his election to become President of the United States. Talk about unlikely!
11-27-2018 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by alazo1985
Hi I don’t speak Latin

Eli5?
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Originally Posted by jman220
...determinitive ...
He said no Latin, goddammit!

      
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