I don't much faith that the next crop of HS grads will be much better at showing up to the polls than in years' past, IIRC the 18-24 demo is something like 20%. You'd probably have to bring back the draft to break 25%.

As far as the OP's question, I think Parkland fades pretty soon like everything else, but what's notable is that it's sticking a little longer and my guess is that there will be more of that as more bystanders attach themselves to the issue instead of sitting on the sidelines. One property of guns is that they make their own endless, nonstop supply of horrible press that can only be offset by rhetoric so much. At least among the overall population (clearly the rhetoric is very effective in preserving support with a particular crowd). I don't know how close we are to the tipping point but I don't think you can see this rate of increase too much longer without something having to give.

I wasn't surprised to see the false flag conspiracy nonsense about them but I think that backfired a little harder than usual too.

I expect it will be higher but if that 20% breaks significantly in the progressive left/liberal direction (which I believe it very much does) then that alone is a continuous build up of significant political pressure.

uh, that cost a lot of lives and we'd still have slaves if the confederates won. Then again we are headed there again pretty much.

These kids are doing great and have a lot of support for their movement. They also don’t need to hold back as much as the politicians and are very competent with social media which gives them an advantage of having their voices heard more widely

I am also thoroughly enjoying them dunking on politicians



https://twitter.com/politicussarah/s...37377506091009

Smartass teenagers are a force to be reckoned with.

It's already made a difference. People are going to not vote for politicians who accept NRA money. Younger voters will definitely turn out in higher numbers. More people will vote in the mid-terms. More people know how full of **** the NRA is now. I can only imagine how many people never knew the CDC is blocked from studying gun violence thanks solely to the NRA. I recently learned this and it blows my mind. A small number of Democrats and a large number of Republicans are going to pay for this. Businesses are making decisions regarding the NRA. BlackRock has put gun manufacturers they're invested in on notice. Even the disingenuous responses are being instadebunked and the flat out full of **** comments are being called out immed. I personally remain cynical until I see something significant happen but there's no denying this feels different and has definitely had an impact off the starting block.

Everybody expected her to get torn apart. She successfully moved the conversation away from guns and gun control during the second half of that town hall. Health care! Law enforcement! Arm the teachers! Fortify schools! Kevlar shields!
She certainly beat the spread.

When she repeatedly ranted about how Cruz wasnt supposed to own a gun, I was surprised that no one asked about the NRA's stance on a universal background check.

Trump already got caught showing off a written note card on how to feign sympathy, and still the Parkland kids are dominating.

Mueller brought new moneylaundering and bank fraud charges, and still the Parkland kids are dominating.

The are already way, way ahead of the amount and duration of coverage that the Vegas shooting had, and that had far more victims and survivors.

4 companies cut ties with the NRA tonight. This **** is having an impact.

I was just coming to post that. It's only been a few days and this has happened. It's something. These kids are making a difference.

I wonder how many Democrats will have the balls to run proudly on their F Rating from the NRA this Fall

Not hard to see this coming but come on. A week ago they were ordinary teens. Now they've seen friends murdered. Politicians gave them lip service. And now scumbags are threatening them online.


https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...85437254987782

Speaking from Kentucky. Lexington's district is currently run by a Republican. But the democrat who I think will win the primary posted this (and this is the one KY district that can flip)

https://www.facebook.com/AmyMcGrathK...87388138546401

Louisville's district is the one district in KY that is currently held by a democrat, John Yarmuth. He recently posted this.

https://www.facebook.com/RepJohnYarm...type=3&theater

This is who I think are the two biggest Democratic candidates in KY when it comes to midterms. So I only hope this is seen through out the country.

I work with a 25 year-old, not far removed from high school, and he's a right-wing meme regurgitating idiot lol. The old-racists-dying-off plank of some belief foundations may not happen.

Not a damned thing happened after 20 something 6 and 7 year-olds were slaughtered.

I like the optimism itt though

Businesses backing away from the NRA should give you pause from being a negative nancy, dude.

Plenty of other large companies support the NRA that might change their tune in the coming days. FedEx for one. SimpliSafe, Symantec, True Car. If we see some of these guys bail, it will be great progress.

Bolded is not accurate.


Gun Contro After Sandy Hook

Quote:

On December 19, 2012, President Obama announced the formation of an inter-agency gun-violence task force headed by Vice President Joe Biden.[13] The task force held 22 meetings and collected ideas from 229 organizations.[14]

The NRA and congressional Republicans said that violent video games were a large part of the problem, but those did not end up on the final list of recommendations.[14] After meeting with Biden, the NRA issued a statement saying that it was "disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment."[15]

On January 16, 2013, President Obama announced a plan for reducing gun violence in four parts: closing background check loopholes; banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines; making schools safer; and increasing access to mental health services.[16][17]:2 The plan included 23 executive actions, signed immediately by the president, and 12 proposals for Congress.[18]

The executive actions signed by President Obama were:[19]

Issuing a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS).
Addressing unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), that may prevent states from making information available to NICS.
Improving incentives for states to share information with NICS.
Directing the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
Proposing a rule making to give law enforcement authorities the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
Publishing a letter from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
Starting a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
Reviewing safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
Issuing a presidential memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
Releasing a report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and making it widely available to law enforcement authorities.
Nominating an ATF director.
Providing law enforcement authorities, first responders and school officials with proper training for armed attacks situations.
Maximizing enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
Issuing a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to research gun violence.
Directing the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenging the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
Clarify that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
Releasing a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
Providing incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
Developing model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship, and institutions of higher education.
Releasing a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
Finalizing regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within insurance exchanges.
Committing to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
Starting a national dialogue on mental health led by Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, and Arne Duncan, the secretary of education.
The White House's proposed congressional actions were these:[19]

Requiring criminal background checks for all gun sales, including those by private sellers that currently are exempt.
Reinstating and strengthening the federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 (AWB 1994) that expired in 2004.
Limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds.
Banning the possession of armor-piercing bullets by anyone other than members of the military and law enforcement.
Increasing criminal penalties for "straw purchasers" who pass the required background check to buy a gun on behalf of someone else.
Acting on a $4 billion administration proposal to help keep 15,000 police officers on the street.
Confirming President Obama's nominee for director of the (ATF).
Eliminating a restriction that requires the ATF to allow the importation of weapons that are more than 50 years old.
Financing programs to train more police officers, first responders and school officials on how to respond to active armed attacks.
Provide additional $20 million to help expand the system that tracks violent deaths across the nation from 18 states to 50 states.
Providing $30 million in grants to states to help schools develop emergency response plans.
Providing financing to expand mental health programs for young people.
The proposals were opposed by the NRA and the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF),[20] and opposition was expected by Republican and some Democratic legislators.[18][21]

ya that is legitimately a "something".

https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarz...Mj#.vcW5XNjmrk

It’s positive. Florida house refused to even consider assault weapons ban. Lots of crazy talk from Broward sheriff and the right about militarization of our schools.

Not to be Captain Obvious, but this overwhelming theme with the Trump presidency is a huge problem for the country. There are so many scandals every week or so that nothing moves the needle. I fear that even when Mueller issues the most damning report ever against Trump, GOP will just explain it away like everything else. Impeachment is most likely a pipe dream until Congress flips to Dem.

That said, something does feel different about Parkland. Possibly the fact that these kids are or will be of voting age for 2018 and 2020.

I've heard very conflicting figures on how much NRA money winds up in political coffers and/or what influence this money has on a politician winning an election. My guess is, it's not as much as we'd like to think. Rubio was right on one thing: His constituents vote for him because they agree with HIS take on 2A. He doesn't necessarily need NRA campaign contributions to get their votes and become elected.

What the NRA is especially good at (more so than donating to politicians), is campaigning to whip up gun owners into a frenzy. You see the passion these kids are showing right now? Well NRA members (i.e. American gun owners) are like this every ****ing day! If you even so much as whisper about creating a common sense gun law to gun enthusiasts, they'll go into a tirade that matches the passion these kids are showing right now. They don't need a special event or tragedy. Just threaten to reduce magazine clip counts, or banning military grade assault rifles on any old day of the week and you'll have enough gun owners shouting at the top of their lungs about their 2A right to own weapons made for nothing other than killing as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time possible.

I think these kids are off to a great start, but their target shouldn't be the NRA or even the politicians for that matter. It should be the rest of America. They need to convince non gun enthusiasts to get as passionate about creating common sense gun control laws as gun owners are about rejecting even the most reasonable attempts at gun reform. That's the way to get rid of these heartless politicians and replace them with good ones who will advocate for change. imho

My whole lifetime the left has been in what psychologists would call a state of learned helplessness on guns. These young people who haven't absorbed the futility are really shaking things up.