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Old 06-26-2018, 11:59 PM   #51
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Have a go at what is wrong with this statement.
Here's a start:

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If liberals who refuse to speak honestly on these topics continue to march with Islamists
This is like the ****ing Jordan Peterson video I posted above!
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:00 AM   #52
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This is like the ****ing Jordan Peterson video I posted above!
Yes, this is the problem! JP is an idiot and knows nothing(see Harris first podcast with JP). Harris actually knows what he's talking about and is really smart.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:05 AM   #53
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JP is an idiot and knows nothing(see Harris first podcast with JP)
Then you see the problem with the fact that the quote I posted is from your Sam Harris statement
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:10 AM   #54
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Then you see the problem with the fact that the quote I posted is from your Sam Harris statement
Do you not know what being an Islamist means? You are trying to play gotcha, as a mod, without knowing what the **** you are talking about.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:11 AM   #55
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Have you thought about this at all?
That specific take? It could be more precise I'll admit.

But in general I'll say it like this, Hirsi Ali's views aligned more with mine the more she thought about it.

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Liberals turning against people like Hirsi Ali is insane to me.

To her credit she's actually walked back some of her more extreme views but only after fomenting anti-immigration sentiment and Islamophobia for years and milking it for fame. It's like people only know her as, "oh yeah that's Sam Harris' secret girlfriend," but well before that she was the grandmama of the post-9/11 far-right anti-immigration and Islamophobic movement now fully blossoming in Europe.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:19 AM   #56
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To her credit she's actually walked back some of her more extreme views but only after fomenting anti-immigration sentiment and Islamophobia for years and milking it for fame. It's like people only know her as, "oh yeah that's Sam Harris' secret girlfriend," but well before that she was the grandmama of the post-9/11 far-right anti-immigration and Islamophobic movement now fully blossoming in Europe.
You are right. No one could possibly read her words and come to conclusions based on what she has said. I totally see her as Sam Harris' girlfriend. That type of logic isn't at all sexist and dismissive and exactly what she has fought against her entire life.

Well done. You are fighting the good fight.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:22 AM   #57
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What's funny about that? The **** is wrong with you?
Sorry but it's funny when somebody doesn't know what an analogy is.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:23 AM   #58
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Sorry but it's funny when somebody doesn't know what an analogy is.
Assume you are right. Explain the analogy to me.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:25 AM   #59
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You are right. No one could possibly read her words and come to conclusions based on what she has said. I totally see her as Sam Harris' girlfriend. That type of logic isn't at all sexist and dismissive and exactly what she has fought against her entire life.

Well done. You are fighting the good fight.
Bro she's not gonna be your GF she's already taken.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:28 AM   #60
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Wait but srsly,

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You are right. No one could possibly read her words and come to conclusions based on what she has said. I totally see her as Sam Harris' girlfriend. That type of logic isn't at all sexist and dismissive and exactly what she has fought against her entire life.

Well done. You are fighting the good fight.
That's literally all I'm doing and I don't even know what you could be referring to. You literally responded to nothing but 'secret girlfriend'.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:30 AM   #61
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Assume you are right. Explain the analogy to me.
A bad person does a bad thing to you so you want to do bad things to all people even tangentially and superficially related to the bad person.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:35 AM   #62
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Then you see the problem with the fact that the quote I posted is from your Sam Harris statement
I don't see what's wrong with the initial part of the quote and the following that you omitted is 100% spot on what's occurred.

"If liberals who refuse to speak honestly on these topics continue to march with Islamists, denigrate free speech, and oppose the work of the real reformers in the Muslim community, they will only further provoke and empower Trump. And Trump, in turn, will empower Islamists the world over by threatening the civil liberties of all Muslims within his reach"

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Old 06-27-2018, 12:42 AM   #63
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Have a go at what is wrong with this statement.
It pretty much flies the **** off the rails at point 3.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:43 AM   #64
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Bro she's not gonna be your GF she's already taken.
Bye. I mentioned on the first page they argue like they are 5 and they just keep proving it.

Why? I don't get the allure of being a ****ing imbecile.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:49 AM   #65
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You are right. No one could possibly read her words and come to conclusions based on what she has said. I totally see her as Sam Harris' girlfriend. That type of logic isn't at all sexist and dismissive and exactly what she has fought against her entire life.

Well done. You are fighting the good fight.
Btw it would've been very hard of you to know but my running joke is about the opposite. All these dudes secretly desire her and want to impress her with their Islamophobia. She came first after all. It's about female empowerment even if that power is being a genocidal maniac for a spell.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:50 AM   #66
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Bye. I mentioned on the first page they argue like they are 5 and they just keep proving it.

Why? I don't get the allure of being a ****ing imbecile.
Just relax and scroll to the next post.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:54 AM   #67
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Do you not know what being an Islamist means? You are trying to play gotcha, as a mod, without knowing what the **** you are talking about.
Maybe not? The dictionary definition sounds like what I thought it means:

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an advocate or supporter of Islamic militancy or fundamentalism.
"radical Islamists"
Suggesting that liberals march with Islamists and that's driving people to Trump sounds pretty dumb to me, kinda like Peterson saying that feminists have an alliance with radical Islamists! But maybe you can educate me on why he's right.

By the way, I'm not a mod of this forum and you're doing forums wrong if you think a green name gives my opinions any more weight.
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Old 06-27-2018, 01:04 AM   #68
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Yeah, those centrist libs and their darn pro-wahhabist platforms.
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Old 06-27-2018, 01:08 AM   #69
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I'm just your standard socially-liberal, fiscally-conservative, pro-salafist centrist.
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Maybe not? The dictionary definition sounds like what I thought it means:

Suggesting that liberals march with Islamists and that's driving people to Trump sounds pretty dumb to me, kinda like Peterson saying that feminists have an alliance with radical Islamists! But maybe you can educate me on why he's right.
https://samharris.org/what-hillary-c...war-on-terror/

He’s looking at it from a complete perspective on how to go about navigating a giant problem. It seems like people don’t want to admit what role they have in fixing it and in some cases like the SPLC, working against it.

Saying political correct lines of Islam is a religion of peace when dudes are blowing thremselves up in the name of Islam doesn’t help. It makes it more attractive when lunatic like Trump says openly racist ideas and wants to do a blanket Muslim ban.

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Old 06-27-2018, 01:27 AM   #71
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WTF are people even arguing about in this thread? This is pointless.
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Old 06-27-2018, 01:30 AM   #72
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I'm not a fan. She said it herself to Chris Hayes "I'm a prosecutor first and foremost." ACAB
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Old 06-27-2018, 01:32 AM   #73
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It kind of did play out like that on the campaign.
The so-called war on terror is not just a crime against humanity, it's an unseemly disgrace and embarrassment. If America spends 100s of billions of dollars on a defense budget to the neglect of it's citizenry and still gets caught slipping by some dudes with box cutters, America doesn't get to burn down the Middle East from now until forever in some deranged revenge spree. America doesn't always get what it wants.
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WTF are people even arguing about in this thread? This is pointless.
I thought we were on our way to a nice discussion until you got all mad at me for some reason.
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Old 06-27-2018, 01:36 AM   #75
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Suggesting that liberals march with Islamists and that's driving people to Trump sounds pretty dumb to me, kinda like Peterson saying that feminists have an alliance with radical Islamists! But maybe you can educate me on why he's right.
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It kind of did play out like that on the campaign.
I have no idea what this hypothetical speech Sam fantasized up has to do with my post
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