I still can't get past the fact that Charles Murray wrote one ****ing neo-phrenology book and has been riding that gravy train as a "public intellectual" in the derposphere for over twenty years. If you'd told me in college that the Bell Curve guy was still going to be talked about in 2018 I would have laughed.

So Max had never heard of him yesterday, just browsed his wiki and is now thumbing his nose at somebody fly has spent hours he wish he could have back reading quotes and stories about?

U of T is fine in the same way all Canadian universities are. They're mostly in province for students and dont have billions in endowments like the major US schools. The difference between Simon frasier and university of regina just isn't massive beyond specific faculties.

Sweet Allah those articles have some money:

The other thing, and you touched on it, is that we don't need to derive JP's level of expertise from his CV. The man puts out hours of youtubes, is constantly interviewed by assorted people, writes books, etc.

And he's a total ****ing fraud. The Jim Jeffries Civil Rights Act thing was so great, he's so exclusively used to "debating" people who agree with him about everything that he collapsed immediately when confronted with one followup question.

Which, uh, apparently runs in the intellectual family.

The point issue isn’t the university, it’s the rank. I guess people just don’t realize how hard it is to get permanent jobs in academia. I was honestly expecting someone close to Sklansky and got someone closer to Carl Sagan on the resume scale.

People used to think I was a weirdo for saying white supremacist propaganda had gotten really, really sophisticated, like it hadn't moved past crazy stormfront rants circa 1998.

Peterson's an idiot tho.

Hahahhahahahahana this might be the single dumbest post ever made on 2+2

It's a bit different in Canada than the USA and I've had two close family members graduate from U of T.

Clovis, keep the meltdown going for 72 hours. I'm really hoping for a foldn binge next where you just post for 24 hours straight while embarrassing yourself.

The Canadian university with the largest endowment has a smaller endowment than Amherst.

Imagine living on the same planet as Will Kamkwamba and still somehow wondering if Africans are dumber than rocks.

Please tell us more about University of Regina and University of Toronto are the same. You sound very intelligent.

We are back to the old rhetorical zinger claiming someone you disagree with is melting down. Glad to see you play on the same field as fly.

You really want to prove it's not a meltdown and that you're right you could always, just, you know, answer my questions. We all get that you're trying to imply you're not answering them to troll me, but you were responding to me pretty normally pre-meltdown, like you were defending Harris on the merits and accusing me of not listening to the podcast and stuff. It was only after I started asking questions you couldn't answer that you decided I was doing "bad faith"(note: Clovis does not know what "bad faith" means) and you would do a MASTERSTROKE OF RHETORIC and dodge the questions you can't answer by pretending to be trolling. Everyone is on the same page.

So,


Clovis, you think Murray is racist. Is believing Murray is a racist a controversial belief, do you think, or one well supported by the facts?

Does, for example, Sam Harris share your belief that he's a racist(but nevertheless think it's important to let racists participate in academic discussions about ranking the different races)?

I still have no idea whatsoever.

The best part is you honestly think I give one **** about your approval. You don’t realize I take your dispproval as a massive boost to my confidence that I am correct.

its pretty amazing. these guys hate fly so much they go to bat for alt right dipshts like jordan peterson and this harris guy.

OK, and like I told to, to come off as effective trolling the audience needs to be aware that this isn't true. But it very well might be! You genuinely appear to have no ****ing idea what you're talking about.

Correct about what?

In this post I “imply” I am not answering fly on purpose. Someone needs to look up the word imply. Time to put your legendary googling skills to work.

Like a little peek behind the curtain of my meltdown inducing skills, I only started asking Clovis very simple and basic questions when he started saying stuff that made it appear that he had no ****ing idea what he was talking about.

The ignorance came first, I exploited it, but it wasn't like Clovis was just trucking along making cogent and well-supported points before getting absolutely stonewalled by basic questions like "so what's your point?" That **** is high risk/high reward, normally if you smugly ask someone super basic questions they can just shut you right up by answering them, it makes you look dumb. I had developed a ton of confidence that Clovis had no idea what was going on, though, so I had no doubt in my mind he wouldn't answer. He can't!

This is exactly what happened. You nailed it.

They just hate being called out or told they're wrong. There are so, so many instances of somebody being told they're wrong on this forum and instead of having any introspection they meltdown for hours or support white supremacy. Its ****ing bizarre.

I must have two or three thousand posts on here supporting white supremacy. Maybe more.

Again, I think you want this to come off as sarcasm... but it doesn't.

That does seem to be what happened, you were throwing a bull**** tantrum in defense of Harris because the libtards were playing the identity politics race card, I called you on it, you were completely unprepared for even the most basic questioning and thus progressed to a fullscale meltdown.

That is incredible considering that he's mentioned roughly fifty times a week in this forum. Not saying he's pretending to have never heard of him or anything, I mean, why lie about something so trivial? I guess he just never bothered to look up this name that is so often mentioned in so many threads. That's not impossible. Surprising, but not impossible.

Nailed it again.

Like you're still responding to every post I make in this thread, buddy, do you think ANYONE believes you can answer those questions and are merely choosing not to?


Anyone? Here, Max hates me too, ask him. Ask him if he thinks you're intentionally refusing to answer questions you fully could or if he thinks you are refusing to answer them because you can't.

Good thing you are not responding to every post I make. Oh wait.