In what "ways"?

What, specifically, is Jon Stewart hiding from? How is his mentioning that he is a comedian first(which nobody has disagreed with!) hiding from anything?

from that article

Stewart seems to be saying that just because he is a comedian, that means he is not political commentator who may also driven by an ideology and it is insane to think otherwise.

Dude, you quoted Stewart directly addressing that!

How did you possibly pick which part of the article to quote without reading what you were quoting?

I still don't understand how he's hiding from anything, and I notice that you skipped that part too. You'll never actually get there, nobody can draw that line. Stewart is like "hey Fox is a right wing propaganda network pretending to be objective news, LOL, and they are DUMB" and the response to that is:

Stewart is a liberal comedian who pretends to be... a liberal comedian? Well, no ****. Does that make him wrong about Fox?

Again, just because he says it is not his primary motivated force, does not make it so...and doesn't make it right for him to deny that he makes political commentary... I can very well say that the primary motivating force of fox-news is to provide fair and balanced news coverage.

Does Fox make people stupid?

So writes one blogger:

Didn't he agree with this? But the fact is, he's on a freaking comedy network. Fox News actually pretends to be a news organization.

dude, take his show off Comedy Central, and its not the same format, audience, and even the support staff are different.

To use your own words To be on Comedy Central, you must first, foremost, and always, be funny. In the Wallace interview he, like you, seem to not be able to accept that premise. If it's not your brand of humour, fair enough. But it is humour, and to not understand that is ridiculous, or as stated in the interview, "YOU'RE INSANE".

Says the guy who admittedly hasn't watched him in years. Everyone, it's pretty futile bothering to correct this guy about his misguided opinion on a show he doesn't even watch.

Cool analogy bro

Lolz... Yes! In general a person saying something is not a proof it is true. Good job if you just figured that out today. The point is that what Stewart says is reasonable. He picks and chooses stories based on how funny he can make coverage of them. While his views may make it easier for him to make fun of certain things and not others, that is just because he is a person and not a directed goal of his show.

General- http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/pol...nfor030360.php

Though always glad to see you deploying pvn's patented "super-******o-constant-bumping" strategy so deftly.

Uh, but then we can try to evaluate whether those statements are actually true. Also, you really need to work on your reading skills. He denied that he was an activist. I know you've got like a set script you're trying to work off of, but are you trying to embarrass yourself?

of course he does. Most comics have a viewpoint. And I'm pretty sure Stewart admits that he'd be classified as a liberal.

But the point is that his show is not trying to make people liberal. He's trying to make them laugh.

I would also offer that his show is less about politics then people make it out to be. His show largely satirizes the news media. His criticizes ALL media as neglecting their duties. If you watch the show regularly you will see montages of all the news networks where he criticizes the inept job they're doing.

Conservatives take particularly offense because Fox is more heavily represented then the other channels. But they would claim the reason he does so is because he's liberal as opposed to the other possibility; that Fox constantly produces material that is mock-worthy. I mean... before Glenn Beck quit Stewart spent a lot of time mocking him. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that even republicans can understand why he was such a ripe target for humor.

If you watch the show regularly you would know that he's spent plenty of time mocking all the channels, mocking Obama and his administration, other democrats...

a gem.

by the way... season 2 is on the way!

What do you think Steward should be doing that he's not doing right now? Do you think he has an ethical obligation to do something that he's currently not doing, and if so, what is it?

Jon Stewart produces a comedy show -- based on my observations of people who watch it.... his show is filled with comedy and people laugh. His end product is what he says it is: comedy.

If the primary motivating force of fox-news is to provide fair and balanced news coverage then they fail. And this can be seen not only by watching the program but by their own internal memos directing them how to cover the news in such a way to make Obama look bad, to favor the conservative take on issues, etc.

In summary, if each person claims there primary motivating force is to provide comedy on the one hand and balanced news on the other... I'd say its clear that the first case succeeded while the other utterly failed.

sorry, but i won't respond to everything here, at least for now.
I misspoke, I haven't watched him in one year, but watched him regularly before then for some time.


IMO Stewart's intentions of what the show is about are ultimately not that important. What is important is that a lot of his viewers watch the show for some political commentary that is presented in an entertaining way that will make them laugh. His audience expectations of political commentary, is why i believe that his show is as much about politics, as it is about comedy.

I did not say that Stewart was overly biased, just that there is bias.


Ok... he denied being an activist in the same way that Fox news talking heads are activists, because he is a comedian... which i believe is wrong.

So? He admits that.

No, he's not an activist like they are, because being an activist like they are involves actively lying to their viewers.

I haven't seen fox news in several months either, but i don't think it is fair to describe what they do as actively lying. Sure they put a spin on things, but so do other news networks. They do heavily distort things from time to time, but that is probably more a result of having less than professional people on tv in their quest for ratings and not out of some desire to outright lie to people. I think Stewart's criticisms and coverage of things are similarly slanted, but obv not to the same degree as Fox News, due to the different nature of their shows and differences in the medium they chose.

I mean, FNC literally organized anti-tax/anti-government(anti-Obama) rallies across the country in 2009. Fox News promoted them, Fox News personalities headlined them, and then Fox News spent the next week whining that other networks didn't pay as much attention to the rallies as Fox did.

That's not news. That's not commentary. That's being a participant.

hotdogfallacy- Do you know who Bill Sammon and Roger Ailes are?

no

what's your point guy

No, they are not similar. There is a big difference between choosing what to comment on, and being unfair in your commentary. Steward picks a lot of liberal, or at least, anti-conservative things to comment on, but his commentary is much more fair. All he does is remember what people said.

I wish just -once- we could have this argument about the Onion instead of The Daily Show.

My last three sentences there seemed pretty "conclusion-y" to me.

Do you know who Ailes and Sammon are? They are pretty critical to this discussion. Stewart does know who they are, he referenced them.

I still don't know what Stewart is "hiding" from by saying(correctly) that he is a comedian.