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06-08-2011 , 08:50 AM
Moderates dont share 50/50 amongst liberals and conservatives.
06-08-2011 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cres
watch it tonight for a different take
I have a lot of friends in television and I've been to rehearsal tapings where you usually arrive around 4:30pm. So they've definitely normally written their scripts by the time Wiener spoke.
06-08-2011 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Moderates dont share 50/50 amongst liberals and conservatives.
I was just thinking about that because most conservatives seem to think anyone whose not completely conservative is a liberal. I would offer that by the standards of your average fox viewer, they would call most moderates liberals. They call their own moderates RINOs.
06-08-2011 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kurto
I was just thinking about that because most conservatives seem to think anyone whose not completely conservative is a liberal. I would offer that by the standards of your average fox viewer, they would call most moderates liberals. They call their own moderates RINOs.
Yeah, a lot of those moderates and conservatives support things like having a public option for health care and gay marriage and/or believe in global warming and evolution. But the point of Fox is to confuse people into thinking that Sean Hannity is closer to the American center than, say, Obama(who is a terrifying liberal extremist ldo).
06-08-2011 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by iNeedScissors61
Surprisingly enough if you question people by the issues they're not that non-liberal anymore.
06-08-2011 , 02:50 PM
I would guess, and I could be wrong, that a lot of moderates are liberal on social issues and conservative on other issues.
06-08-2011 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Omar Comin
I would guess, and I could be wrong, that a lot of moderates are liberal on social issues and conservative on other issues.
let's ask ikes IMO
06-08-2011 , 03:26 PM
BOOM ROASTED
06-08-2011 , 08:11 PM
Bill'O in fine form tonight. "Weiner is the most active & popular democrat of the liberal philosophy". His guest said Kerry, nope, not according to Bill'O, cause you can't book him. Then Beckel said it was Clinton, who again Bill'O claimed was not, because you can't get him on TV.................here's a hint Bill'O, your show isn't that big of a deal. Only once every 4 years for the main election cycle.
06-19-2011 , 04:52 PM
Steward pwning Chris Wallace today.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_879964.html
06-19-2011 , 06:57 PM
I didn't really see it as a pwning so much - just an illustration of what we already know about Fox News. That Wallace can't see the difference between what his own network does and what Steward does is further evidence of the ideological bubble they live in where everyone's out to get them (to the point that making fun of Palin's TV commercial is seen as a "political statement" - lol what??).
06-20-2011 , 03:43 PM
in that line what I found more baffling was them playing the Cain clip where Cain said he'd veto any bill longer then 3 pages. You would have to live in a bubble to suggest its partisan to mock that. You would like to think people of any party can see why that's mockworthy.
06-20-2011 , 03:58 PM
Yeah, the Fox guy was a pretty terrible interviewer and using some pretty tortured logic to assail the mainstream media for bias. No one will disagree with the fact that he and his team can find nearly limitless clips of someone on NBC, CBS, ABC, the NYT, or the AP running a story that errs or slants in a liberal way. However, we can also dig up clips of them erring or slanting in a conservative way (exhibit A, the media's treatment of the lead up to the Iraq war). Both kinds of errors can often be explained by a bias for sensationalism, controversy, laziness and/or pro-establishment.
06-20-2011 , 07:31 PM
If Herpes, Cain, and that mild Sawyer clip is the best his team could dig up I'd say Stewart is wrong about Fox being so good at what they do. They should aggressively head hunt Stewart's 8th or 9th best guy who could've found 50 better clips just from this week.
06-20-2011 , 07:37 PM
I wish Stewart were more of a policy wonk to really tear into Wallace about Obamacare and how Sawyer(who, if she was commenting on the unamended version of the bill, wasn't even that wrong) didn't just make some **** up about death panels.
06-20-2011 , 07:54 PM
STEWART: Who are the most consistently misinformed media viewers? The most consistently misinformed? Fox, Fox viewers, consistently, every poll.

His response was omg lampaneli tells funny dic jokes!

What a fail
06-20-2011 , 09:01 PM
That bit about uninformed viewers was the best part and the host just had zero comeback on it.

And yeah, bringing up comedy central was just lol, i mean you might not laugh but its a comedy show. His point that Stewart balances out the celebrity roasts was just a weird segue interpretation that the host's show balances out hte crazy **** on fox like Beck.
06-21-2011 , 12:54 AM
Steward interview, unedited

12:30 to 15:00 is a pretty good segment that didn't make the TV version.
06-21-2011 , 01:34 AM
wtf wallace thought the stewart was making a connection between palin and herpes in that first clip? lol

wtf why did wallace point out the comedy central runs stupid comedy stuff? thus proving stewart's point. lol. facepalm.

Last edited by vixticator; 06-21-2011 at 01:43 AM.
06-21-2011 , 01:43 AM
Awesome levelling by Stewart throughout: buttering up Wallace, talking about how great he is, which gives more weight to his several "you're wrongs" during the interview.
06-21-2011 , 10:10 AM
Amazing how many people think FoxNews is the greatest threat to modern society today, and not deficits, spending, jobs or terrorism. Do they really think that if only FoxNews didn't exist that all the "idiots" would be good little citizens, driving their cars listening to NPR or watching the network news and voting Democrat?

I've said this before and I still stand by it: the only people who have a problem with FoxNews are liberals, Democrats, people from other shows with lower ratings, and people who are paid to have a problem with it (i.e., jounralists, pundits and comedians).

If you think watching Fox News makes you stupid, then don't watch it.
06-21-2011 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by codemanz4

If you think watching Fox News makes you stupid, then don't watch it.
Yeah, but what if it's making other people stupid? I have to share the roads with those people.
06-21-2011 , 10:46 AM
The homerun comment from Stewart was
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STEWART: Who are the most consistently misinformed media viewers? The most consistently misinformed? Fox, Fox viewers, consistently, every poll.
Pick a show, any show, where they poll their audience after a debate, current event issue, of just the host's commentary. If the organization was reaching a full balanced spectrum of Americans, their results would tend to align with other national polls. But they don't. McCain won every debate.
06-21-2011 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by codemanz4
Amazing how many people think FoxNews is the greatest threat to modern society today, and not deficits, spending, jobs or terrorism. Do they really think that if only FoxNews didn't exist that all the "idiots" would be good little citizens, driving their cars listening to NPR or watching the network news and voting Democrat?
No, I'm sure many of them would still be the sort of people who get nervous when a black family moves in across the street, but at least they wouldn't be setting the national agenda.

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If you think watching Fox News makes you stupid, then don't watch it.
Fox News doesn't make you stupid like through osmosis, Fox News deliberately misinforms it's audience for partisan reasons. When they poll Fox News viewers and discover they are wrong about all sorts of stuff, it's not because randomly all the ******s decided that was their channel of choice, it's because the TeeVee anchorblonde, acting in the role of Fair and Balanced journalism, LIED TO THEM.
06-21-2011 , 11:03 AM
Some are arguing that Steward was wrong re: Faux News:

http://reason.com/blog/2011/06/21/is...26+Run+Blog%29

      
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