Yeah, this

Bring in Dan Patrick

Michael Savage (Weiner) is a hate-mongering psychotic who wants to kill any race or sect that opposes our hegemony abroad.

He's a first-rate PoS.

NY Times today on the MSNBC/Olbermann split.

I think this dude is officially the Shannon Doherty of media political pundits

Blah Blah Blah. Kill any sect or race??? Have you ever even listened to his show. He is now calling for our troops to come home from Afhan and Iraq.

Savage has the most entertaining of any of the right wing radio talk shows. Some percentage of his show is what he really believes some percent is satire it's up to the listener to decide.

Savage is clearly a level. No money in ******** books about plants from Fiji curing cancer, actual medicine too solid. Talk radio tho...

Time for my obligatory mention of the time I played a PLO cash side game w/Savage at the Rio during the WSOP and lost a $1500 pot to him. The story is in the archives somewhere.

This is not entirely accurate. Savage really is a conservative, he really hates liberals, and he really believes borders/language/culture.

HE obviously is over the top to get a reaction. I tihnk he does talk radio for the money and the intellectual challenge. If you listen to his show you realize that he is not just another right wing talker.

Lately he has called for Sarah Palin not to run for president and for our troops to leave Iraq and Afghanistan.

I'm pretty sure I don't want to **** KO

Shannon Doherty? Maybe a decade and change ago when she was on Charmed, but have you seen her recently? Age wasnt as kind as it could have been.

He is just on another level than you Nick. He wants the troops to come home so that the two countries descend into civil war. Then in 5 years he will recommend we go start air striking and wiping out whoever won the civil wars probably calling it a humanitarian action to save the losing side so we can have all the tasty oil and lithium all for ourselves with the brown people being a minority to the few thousand white people we send over to rape their land of natural resources.

WTF, is this for real? (short fox video).

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201101260007

Wow...you mean there weren't real crickets in the house chamber?

In all seriousness, that seems like a pretty poor thing to complain about (for media matters, I mean) since it's plainly obvious what was happening. Fact-checking is fine, even if you're just checking the right's facts. Pointing out doctored vid clips or pictures is good. But something that obvious? Meh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIYgetzo1aQ

Starts at 40, got a good laugh going, ended with a bit of applause.

Lol fair and balanced amirite.

You dont think its the very definition of dishonest reporting to remove the laughter and applause after a joke and then attack the president for making a joke that no one laughed at or applauded? It is implied, and then reinforced by the hosts, that the jokes were not well received and the only thing they did was add in the crickets. Clearly no one at MM was like "****, we need to double check if there were actual crickets there!"

Sure, its a soft ball, but lets not pretend there is no value in media matters attacking Fox for the soft balls as well as the deeper ones that take more than a minute or two on youtube to debunk.

I think it was a joke, and a pretty obvious one at that. About as good as the president's, but not quite (I sort of supplied my own punchline to the Salmon one, and I know there was a bit of a response...).

Personally, I think the definition of 'dishonest reporting' is attempting to pass something false off as true. As such, I don't think that was 'dishonest reporting', at least the sound effects. Though, maybe I am focusing on the sound effects (but that was what the headline was about). But I also don't remember a huge reply to the jokes during the SOTU.

OK, watching the link Phil provided there was a bit more response than I remembered--I was probably lost in thought.

I thought The Daily Show episode this weekly nicely slammed Fox. Where they were appalled that someone compared the right to Goebbels. Then Megan somebody or other from Fox said that Fox would never compare people to Nazis. Within 4 hours of her saying that Glenn Beck was doing it. They then showed a dozen or so clips of various Fox personalities comparing people on the left to Nazis.

I find it funny that Fox doesn't even try to be careful. What I question is... does the average Fox viewer know she's full of crap when she denies Fox would do that? Or are there minds so blank that they immediately agree with her despite the fact that they've no doubt seen Fox do it time and time again?

Trying to pass the jokes off as failing in silence - i refuse to go back and watch it but they referenced the only response was Biden grinning awkwardly (or however they phrased it) - that right there is attempting to pass something false off as true.

The age old crickets and whooshing wind sound effect is used when a joke actually fails and is added on top of actual silence. Creating silence b cutting off the sound then adding the crickets effect on top for extra effect is the problem i have with it and i assume MM is the same though they could have expressed that fact better.

Again, I was focusing on the headline that MM supplied to the video--the sounds and the crickets. I guess MM is guilty of dishonest reporting too

Fox new is not allowed to have any fun ever. Those cricket noises may inspire violence.

I mean yesterday i watched msnbc and Chris Mathews called Bachman stupid 20 times

but that's not a joke. that's just honest reporting.

Well then Savage is also reporting honestly when he calls Obama a radical communist

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So I know everybody loves Rachel Maddow. I hate her. She always makes ironic pop culture references. She says 'dude' all the time. And she is clueless.

Steward was on her show and criticized her for saying 'teabaggers' alot. Then she's all like it wasnt me. Then on Bill Maher she says it is impossible to shoot down a missle.

Then there is this

CNN Response

Madoow just not very bright. She should retire now that DADT has been repealed

I Wonder why FOX has higher ratings?????????????????????????????

When your side has Piers Morgan you instantly lose the argument. Its a rule here in Britain and it will soon be a rule in the US too.

That said, we like you guys more now that you have taken that jackass off our hands.

That said from what i hear it made the teabaggers look terrible, so im gonna go find it on youtube and laugh cos i forgot to do that today

The point is that maddow makes it seem like her network is on some moral highground for not showing it when they are going to play it 1000 times the next day and call Bachman stupid 10000 times

I'm kind of with Maddow, if only because Bachmann herself was trying to downplay the seriousness of her response. I watched NBC's coverage last night and they were like "zomg we have TWO RESPONSES, an official sanctioned one from the Republicans and another one from MICHELLE BACHMANN speaking on behalf of those WILD AND CRAZY tea partiers!" and then they interviewed Bachmann after her response (which they didn't air) and she was like "um, this competing responses thing is the invention of the media, everyone goes on camera after the state of the union to give their thoughts on it and the Tea Party Express™ asked me to speak to their constituents, I'm not trying to compete with the Republicans at all and this was just supposed to be an internet thing."

So in the context of Bachmann's comments, it did seem out of place for NBC's coverage to be assigning the importance that they did to her response, let alone CNN going ahead and broadcasting the thing.