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07-28-2018 , 03:46 PM

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I'm just grateful to live in Canada where we don't have racism and gun violence like they do in USA#1

07-28-2018 , 03:59 PM

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Canadian mass shooters and racists are much more polite about it.

07-28-2018 , 11:42 PM

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In more lolCanada, here is our current leader

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Margaret Thatcher has aged well.

07-29-2018 , 11:40 AM

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Also our former city planner is running for mayor on the idea of having the city separate from Ontario and make our own province. Fun times.

As a proud Torontonian I want the city to separate from the country, but our current awesome mayor will probably get 70% of the vote in the re-election so it doesn't matter who else is running.

Also trimming the size of our city council is a good thing, the timing of it is not.

07-29-2018 , 01:23 PM

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Trimming the council size may be a great idea - but a provincial government forcing it upon a city isn't the best way to go about it. With his previous experience in the city govt, it comes across as vindictive.

And there's always whack-jobs running for mayor - last election they had 60+ registered. I'm sure it's the same in any large city.

07-29-2018 , 03:30 PM

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Curious as to why you think it’s good.

07-29-2018 , 05:01 PM

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It's good if you don't like voter parity and want the conservatives in the burbs to have disproportionate power.

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Council expanded to 47 after an independent consultant’s nearly four-year review concluded that this was essential for effective representation, a priority set out in a Supreme Court decision that called for every vote to have equal weight, known as voter parity.

Today, the city’s ward populations are not balanced, with some as small as 45,000 people and some as big as 97,000, according to 2016 census data.

As Toronto continues to grow at an unprecedented pace, there are concerns disparity will grow with it. This is especially true in high-growth areas of the city, such as the downtown core.

Council provided direction to the consultants to maintain an average ward population of 61,000. The recommended 47-ward option would achieve voter parity by the 2026 election, the consultants reported.

A challenge to the recommended option from Etobicoke Councillor Justin Di Ciano went to divisional court and was dismissed in March. The court upheld an earlier decision of the Ontario Municipal Board, which found a 47-ward structure achieved effective representation and that a 25-ward option preferred by Di Ciano did not achieve better voter parity for the 2018 election.

During their review, the consultants did consider an option consistent with federal and provincial riding boundaries and that would create 25 wards but “encountered challenges” trying to achieve voter parity, their report said.

https://www.thestar.com/news/queensp...urces-say.html

07-30-2018 , 08:45 AM

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https://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/07/...ed-curriculum/

07-30-2018 , 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by True North

Curious as to why you think it’s good.

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I hate country music, but most of my friends like it(they're all very progressive, more so than me). Still I went to Stampede one year and got a sweet black cowboy hat and a revolver spinning belt buckle on a connecting flight in Dallas in the airport(never been to Texas otherwise) so now whenever I'm dragged to a country concert or bar I wear those things and look like the biggest country fan in the place. Gets awkward when random people start talking to me about the band or country music and I have no idea of any of the songs the band plays or really the names of any country song. Even more awkward when say I'm more of a Wu-Tang fan

07-30-2018 , 10:30 AM

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https://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/07/...ed-curriculum/

Is there going to be a comprehensive consultation or not?

07-30-2018 , 10:44 AM

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I hate country music, but most of my friends like it(they're all very progressive, more so than me).

I don't understand why you bolded that. A lot of my friends are from small town Ontario or from Calgary originally so they like country music. They're all educated and very progressive. I'm also quite progressive, but still hold conservative fiscal views when it comes to how much we should be funding social programs. Also, I prefer fewer government representatives

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07-30-2018 , 10:55 AM

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Would you say you're fiscally conservative but socially liberal?

07-30-2018 , 10:57 AM

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Would you say you're fiscally conservative but socially liberal?

Eat a dick

07-30-2018 , 10:57 AM

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https://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/07/...ed-curriculum/

That made me dizzy.

07-30-2018 , 03:11 PM

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I don't understand why you bolded that. A lot of my friends are from small town Ontario or from Calgary originally so they like country music. They're all educated and very progressive. I'm also quite progressive, but still hold conservative fiscal views when it comes to how much we should be funding social programs. Also, I prefer fewer government representatives

Because if your country music loving friends are more progressive than you are then that would indicate that you must be pretty damn conservative. And that would potentially give True North some insight wrt your views of Doug Ford's agenda.

07-30-2018 , 03:17 PM

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You're still free to tell us why you think cutting city council is a good thing though. From what I gather this may just be vindictiveness on Ford's part.

07-30-2018 , 03:25 PM

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I haven't looked into the part where someone claimed that Conservative Councillors will keep there jobs and only the Liberal ones will be ousted. That's obviously incorrect if true, but haven't heard that mentioned anywhere outside of here. I am a fan of smaller government and feel that too many leads to less efficiencies in policy making as well as higher costs to the city.

07-30-2018 , 03:26 PM

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This week in polite GTA racists:

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“I don’t give a f—. You don’t tell me what to do in my province,” he said. “You don’t ask me a f—— question. It’s my f—— province.”

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“You want me to go to my own country? I’m a Canadian citizen,” the other man says. The driver responds, “Show me. Prove it. I don’t believe you.” He then mocks the person’s accent, saying: “You don’t talk like a Canadian. I’m racist as f---. I don’t like you. I don’t like her. I would kill your children first,” the driver continues, before pulling away.

07-31-2018 , 02:45 PM

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Someone might want to tell that to the right-wing councillors.

07-31-2018 , 05:37 PM

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It's not that the conservative councillors will keep their jobs and only the liberal ones will be ousted, but that the wards that are being removed will disproportionately effect downtown Toronto where people tend to vote more liberal (i.e. what was Toronto before amalgamation), over Etobicoke, North York, Scarborough and York where people tend to vote more conservative. This will get worse over time, as the population is increasing in downtown at a greater rate than in the suburbs.

07-31-2018 , 10:20 PM

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April 24, 2018:

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Doug Ford’s Progressive Conservatives support Ontario’s basic income pilot project, a three-year experiment to determine whether regular, no-strings-attached payments improve health, education and housing outcomes for people living in poverty.

“We look forward to seeing the results,” a party spokesperson said Monday about the Liberal government initiative launched a year ago today.

When asked if a PC provincial government would kill the innovative experiment, Melissa Lantsman replied: “Nope, as mentioned we look forward to seeing the results.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...doug-ford.html

Today:

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The Ontario basic income pilot project is coming to an end, says Children, Community and Social Services Minister Lisa MacLeod. MacLeod said Tuesday that the project was expensive, and "clearly not the answer for Ontario families."

During the announcement, MacLeod was asked what data the province was citing when it said the program wasn't working. MacLeod didn't offer any examples, and instead just said it was "not sustainable."

The pilot project started in April 2017. It was originally set to last three years, and explore the effectiveness of providing a basic income to those living on low incomes — whether they were working or not.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ment-1.4768626

07-31-2018 , 10:56 PM

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This week in polite GTA racists:

Please seek asylum in USA #1 where you will be safe.

07-31-2018 , 11:02 PM

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But don’t steal my jerb tia.

08-01-2018 , 06:12 AM

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April 24, 2018:https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...doug-ford.html

Today:https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ment-1.4768626

Translation: They’re afraid the results will prove it to be effective and moved quickly to kill the evidence.

08-01-2018 , 03:55 PM

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Triggered Conservatives refused to answer questions in the legislature yesterday.

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Premier Doug Ford and Finance Minister Vic Fedeli (Nipissing) maintain they heard NDP House Leader Gilles Bisson (Timmins) “mimicking” PC MPP Kaleed Rasheed during question period on Tuesday.

Bisson denied the charges and there is no video or audio proof of any such heckling. Speaker Ted Arnott and journalists in the chamber — including three Star reporters — did not hear the alleged mockery.

Still, Government House Leader Todd Smith (Bay of Quinte) refused to answer any NDP questions in the chamber on Tuesday. Smith, who also admitted he didn’t catch anything untoward, said the Tories would refuse to answer any NDP questions until the official opposition apologized.

“It was very audible to the premier, it was very audible to the minister of finance and a number of other members of government caucus,” said Smith, citing the standing orders of the Legislative Assembly as the reason the Tories will not take New Democrat questions.

“It’s reprehensible that a member was treated in this way. We won’t stand for it. Unless we get some kind of apology … I wouldn’t expect that we’ll be answering any questions from the official opposition,” he said.

Such unlucky timing, as that was the day they announced cutting the Basic Income program and reductions in planned increases in social assistance rates do they didn't have a chance to answer questions about that. Also unlucky that Doug Ford wasn't in the legislature today when they decided they could start answering questions again.

https://www.thestar.com/news/queensp...ps-accent.html
https://www.thestar.com/news/queensp...d-mimicry.html

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