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There is one beer nobody's ever drank that goes for a buck a beer. I think they sell a 4-pack for $4. Not sure if they could sell singles for a buck.

Here it is. $4 for 4 bottle + $.10 deposit

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01-10-2019 , 06:58 AM

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There is one beer nobody's ever drank that goes for a buck a beer.

Homeless people with a handful of change definitely buy it at my neighborhood Beer Store.

01-18-2019 , 11:39 PM

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Canada seems like a safe and fun topic right now. Discuss away!

01-18-2019 , 11:55 PM

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Okay, last week the Mounties came on to first nations' land to rough up people protesting a pipeline for disobeying a court order:
https://www.facebook.com/unistoten/
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/rcmp-break-int...ters-1.3755023

This week Doug Ford ****ed over college and universities and their students: https://www.thestar.com/politics/pro...announces.html

01-19-2019 , 12:04 AM

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Jesus Christ, WTF Canada?

01-19-2019 , 01:26 AM

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Let's see what else Doug's been up to

01-19-2019 , 02:02 PM

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Lets tell the whole story. The council had voted along with other tribes to approve the pipeline through their land and took the payments for it. The bands council that was elected by the tribe approved this and than a few older tribe members said no and tried to block construction.

not saying it

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...11D3&FORM=VIRE

01-19-2019 , 03:58 PM

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Sure, let's tell the whole story.

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The Trans Mountain pipeline expansion is a high-risk investment for Canada and any future financial backers because it runs through unceded Indigenous lands, says one economist.

D.T. Cochrane, an economic researcher with the Indigenous Network on Economies and Trade, says the Texas oil giant Kinder Morgan’s April decision to suspend non-essential spending and the federal government’s subsequent nationalization of the controversial project are either ignorant to, or minimize, legal and financial risks that make the project “completely untenable.”

Nicole Schabus, an assistant law professor at Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops, says while about half the Trans Mountain pipeline route crosses through Secwepemcul’ecw – the unceded territory of the Secwepemc people – Canada has never obtained their free, prior and informed consent.

The Trans Mountain pipeline was built in 1953, at a time when Indigenous people couldn’t legally organize around the question of land title and jurisdiction, Schabus explains.

Since then multiple Supreme Court of Canada decisions have strengthened Indigenous Peoples’ land rights, title and jurisdiction in decision-making processes about what happens on their unceded territories where no treaties exist that give title to the Crown.

At least four Secwepemc First Nations along the pipeline route have signed onto the project, but Schabus says Aboriginal title and jurisdiction belong to the Secwepemc people themselves – not the bands established under Canada’s Indian Act – and the people are the “proper rights holders.”

https://aptnnews.ca/2018/06/08/indig...s-economist-2/

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The Band Council system is a governance structure created by the Canadian state through the Indian Act. The Unist’ot’en and grassroots Wet’suwet’en grudgingly accept that the Band Council has a limited authority, extending only to managing the affairs of the reserve it was created to represent. That authority in no way extends to traditional territory which remains governed by the Hereditary Chiefs. Therefore any deal claimed to have been reached by a pipeline company with a First Nation Band Council is not legitimate, unless it also has the consent of the Hereditary Chiefs and the Clan itself.

With respect to Unist’ot’en traditional territory, the Moricetown Band Council has acknowledged the authority of the hereditary chiefs and therefore refrained from signing any deals with pipeline companies. In other places such as Burns Lake, where the Band Council has been signing deals without even consulting the people, there has been growing protest. Representing an unbroken line of tradition that continued even through a period when the Feast system was made “illegal” by the state, the Wet’suwet’en regard their law as pre-dating and superseding the authority of the Canadian state.

When it came out that industry and government were hatching a plan for a massive pipeline corridor through their territory, the Unist’ot’en clan assembled to discuss the issue. They made the decision to reject all pipeline proposals. This uncompromising opposition to ALL pipelines through their territory is no surprise considering the historical reputation of the Unist’ot’en as a tough and hardy people with a fierce warrior tradition. The impact of the Unist’ot’en decision is considerable as their territories account for two thirds of the total Wet’suwet’en land base.

https://crimethinc.com/2013/07/09/st...unistoten-camp

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In Canada, armed forces raided native Wet’suwet’en territory in British Columbia Monday, with at least 14 arrests being reported. Land defenders faced off with Royal Canadian Mounted Police as the police breached two checkpoints set up to keep pipeline workers out of protected territory. Indigenous leaders are reportedly being blocked from their territory. TransCanada Corporation has been seeking entry into indigenous territory, where they are planning to build the massive $4.7 billion Coastal GasLink pipeline. Land protectors from First Nations clans set up two encampments where they had been physically blocking entry to TransCanada workers.

We speak with Karla Tait, a member of the Unist’ot’en House Group of the Gilseyhu Clan. Dr. Tait is also the director of clinical programming for the Unist’ot’en Healing Centre.

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/1/...O1EsI88IGqaA9E

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01-19-2019 , 07:21 PM

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Sure, let's tell the whole story. https://aptnnews.ca/2018/06/08/indig...s-economist-2/
https://crimethinc.com/2013/07/09/st...unistoten-camp

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/1/...O1EsI88IGqaA9E

Explain to me the pint of electing a band council than as corrupt as many are. Canada is a resource based economy and hey I am all for diversifying but all our resources are a whole lot cleaner than the USA or the Middle East

01-19-2019 , 08:24 PM

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Yeah, oil sands are famously clean. Good thing we're building pipelines on stolen native land to take full advantage of such an environmentally responsible source of energy.

01-19-2019 , 09:43 PM

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Yeah, oil sands are famously clean. Good thing we're building pipelines on stolen native land to take full advantage of such an environmentally responsible source of energy.

I never said Oil Sands were clean. But I personally think they are a better option than a million barrels of Saudi oil being refined in Canada per day. Id rather have it piped than shipped by rail.

I am just saying this tribes council signed on for it. I assume the council was elected? How many tribes prosperity is derived from oil as well?

01-19-2019 , 09:43 PM

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I have free health insurance.

I paid a grand total of $10k-12k over 4 years for a degree that an American student was forking over 20k a year for in the same school.

Lol ****ing Canada is right.

I wish we had the same tax laws though. Mortgage interest deduction and 1031 exchanges. Thats it.

01-19-2019 , 11:37 PM

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Okay, last week the Mounties came on to first nations' land to rough up people protesting a pipeline for disobeying a court order:
https://www.facebook.com/unistoten/
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/rcmp-break-int...ters-1.3755023

This week Doug Ford ****ed over college and universities and their students: https://www.thestar.com/politics/pro...announces.html

And was spotted and photographed at Trump Tower Washington. For the people I guess.

China is threatening us with "repercussions" if we don't let Meng* go, I like how Ralph Goodale dismissed the Chinese ambassador's comments as "to be expected", like we were dealing with children. It's a smart play vs. their huff and puff routine.

*Correction: if we don't let Huawei in on our 5G network. Lol. We're going to end up telling them to pound sand, obv.

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01-20-2019 , 01:35 PM

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Yeah I don't get this Huawei thing either . So the Daughter we detained for the USA is out on bail sitting in her cosy home. Yet our 2 CDN's are in jail. Plus you have the Chinese spokesperson threatening Canada. Id say release our 2 CDN's are there never will be a 5g network from Huawei.

As far as the CDN on death row. When you start dealing drugs in foreign countries you may face this. I don't see many CDN's having sympathy for him

01-20-2019 , 01:56 PM

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Yeah I don't get this Huawei thing either . So the Daughter we detained for the USA is out on bail sitting in her cosy home. Yet our 2 CDN's are in jail. Plus you have the Chinese spokesperson threatening Canada. Id say release our 2 CDN's are there never will be a 5g network from Huawei.

As far as the CDN on death row. When you start dealing drugs in foreign countries you may face this. I don't see many CDN's having sympathy for him

As if the west didn't already know, but with these short-sighted actions the Chinese Communist Party has shown its hand in establishing a clear link between Huawei and the regime's authoritarian wishes. There's a chance Meng doesn't end up being extradited to the States, but there's no chance of Huawei gaining the foothold in Canada that the Chinese (and some Canadian businesses and CEOs) were hoping for. Presumably the feds are biding time to see if we can salvage any value out of this situation (and hopefully save an imprisoned Canadian or two) before giving this dictator-controlled company the boot.

01-21-2019 , 07:42 AM

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As far as the CDN on death row. When you start dealing drugs in foreign countries you may face this. I don't see many CDN's having sympathy for him

This is definitely true. Half of Canadians think that if you go to Cancun on spring break and get raped, well, you were stupid to go to Mexico in the first place. Our popular media is really into the "Canadian white person got killed in Foreign Land by Foreigners" stories so plenty of people that consider Toronto to be a far away exotic land just assume that's just what happens when you travel anywhere where most people aren't white.

01-21-2019 , 11:43 AM

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Going to Cancun on spring break is not a crime Trying to arrange a large shipment of Meth out of China is a crime. Saying this guy is the same as the two CDN's jailed is a joke. Was it him that appealed the 15 year sentence and not the government?

Plus in a previous conviction in Canada the judge even said to him before he was sentenced

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"Your country deserves much better from you...you are in one of the best places to live....You are not caught up in Libya or Syria"

sadly he never got the message

01-29-2019 , 02:15 AM

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Election year.

I like Trudeau not backing down from other nations and hope he cancels the Saudi deal.

I just see the Scheer led Tories as a joke..can't see how anyone could relate to Scheer he seems to be like Daniel Negreanu

01-30-2019 , 01:18 AM

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Is the $1 beer thing on singles, or any beer? i.e. is the minimum price of a Bud Light 30-pack $30?

Now only available on long weekends https://www.thestar.com/politics/pro...-weekends.html

02-04-2019 , 12:18 PM

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Loved the ad GM Didn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEAAz3fr2EU

02-07-2019 , 12:24 PM

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/o...-ay5-en50Hf2X8

02-09-2019 , 12:07 AM

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...-undiscovered/

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Just more than a year ago, when I first learned of Mr. McArthur’s crimes and how he had disposed of his victims – especially the fact that the dismemberments appeared to have an expressive and even pleasurable dimension that actually brought additional risk of being caught versus, as is instead more commonly seen, a purely strategic purpose (such as to prevent identification or even the full recovery of the remains) – I knew that he was in all likelihood a rare breed of an already rare type of murderer. As not only a serial killer but also what’s known as a homicidal necrophile, his disordered erotic preoccupation with the aesthetics of death and particularly of lifeless and defiled corpses had become so intense that he was likely prepared to claim innocent lives to indulge it.

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So, with all of these details in mind, including the fact that I can think of no serial killer on record who started murdering at such an advanced age as Mr. McArthur, that homicidal necrophiles tend to have long and devastating criminal careers with elevated victim counts, and that they also tend to be highly versatile and variable – a process known as polymorphism – in their victim selections, usually zeroing in on vulnerable or marginalized communities regardless of gender or age, why is there still no systematic inquiry under way into what Mr. McArthur was up to, if anything, between roughly 1978 and 1993?

More precisely, what is the status of the investigation into his movements during those same years when he led a largely nomadic existence across Eastern and Northern Ontario, as well as throughout the expansive and burgeoning GTA, as a travelling sock and underwear salesman? Who is cross-referencing cold cases, missing-persons cases and the dozens of still unidentified human remains recovered from these same areas to Mr. McArthur’s old sales routes, hotel stays and known visits to his department store clients? Sadly, to date, it still seems no one. As what stands to be one of the most complicated and political multijurisdictional investigations in provincial and perhaps even national history, the Ontario Provincial Police in particular are hoping that Mr. McArthur remains strictly a Toronto blight. In reality, when looking at substantively similar offenders, most of his victims are likely in rural OPP territory. One need only read my 2015 book, Murder City, to get a sampling of this agency’s tragicomic track record with cold cases and the prevailing institutional attitude that highways are only for catching speeders and texters, not killers.

In the United States, the FBI’s Highway Serial Killing Initiative tries to be more thorough. The specialty unit currently estimates that there are 450-500 active serial killers currently traveling the country’s Interstate network under the cover of legitimate business travel; and that’s in 2019, when every car and cellphone leaves digital breadcrumbs and CCTV cameras are ubiquitous. In the lonely hinterland of 1980s Northern Ontario, Mr. McArthur would have been a ghost. With a car and convincing story, there is no limit to what he could have done and to whom. Consider also that, by that point, he may very well have cut his teeth as a sexual murderer and even a necrophile.

With his looking increasingly like a viable suspect in the original “Gay Strip” murders of the 1970s while working in downtown Toronto – at least 14 similar murders that suddenly stopped in 1978 when Mr. McArthur hit the road as a travelling salesman – we may very well be talking about a serial killer who was already highly experienced before going mobile. We may, as such, be talking about eventual victim numbers equal to or greater than those of Robert Pickton. The victims won’t all be gay men, either. There were no gay strips or villages in Sudbury or Timmins in the 1980s. But there were lots of runaways, drifters, sex trade workers, drug addicts and other people on the margins that Mr. McArthur knew no one would immediately go looking for. The question is: Will they now?

02-09-2019 , 07:50 AM

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Although I take that guys point (notwithstanding the nakedly self serving plug for his own book), I can't see this possibly being something that the OPP is just going to jump on proactively. Even if called out publicly in the Globe and Mail.

I think that this would take a nudge from some good investigative journalism to move it along. Like, if someone does the digging and finds some credible link between McArthur and some crimes then sure, the OPP or local police should investigate that and contemplate bringing more charges. But the author seems to be suggesting that the OPP should allocate a bunch of resources to that project solely on the basis of his speculation.

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02-09-2019 , 10:20 AM

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Not just his. Presumably he's basing his opinion on more than just naked speculation (i.e, the stats and literature and relevant facts about this rare type of killer.) It would be neglectful to not try to dig up information about his whereabouts throughout the years. Balancing that digging with cost and police resources is just an inescapable reality of working cold cases. I agree the book plug was cringe-worthy.

02-09-2019 , 10:36 AM

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He also vacationed in various countries over the years and it wouldn't surprise me if Canadian authorities are contacted by different police agencies around the world believing they recognize McArthur's work.

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