Maybe all those cuts are to fund Ford’s new government-funded propaganda channel.

^^ The Liberal government ran this same sleazy scam in BC during their regime. They ran a print campaign as well. Ultimately it became a failed strategy, like many of the shenanigans they pulled trying to increase the Party's stature at the public's expense.

For those who don't know, the BC Liberal party is actually the conservatives. I won't bother to explain.

3:50 "Oh buddy, if I wanna take a swipe at you.."

The Ontario Liberal party actually started it and the Conservatives are keeping it going instead of cancelling it. Sigh

No they didn't. Who told you that?

Doug Ford — wasting taxpayer money to own the libs: Opinion
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/onta...nion-1.4770244

You might notice that article doesn't include a link to the Liberal party propaganda network. Do you want to guess why?

Oh because they disguised it better that makes it okay? I would argue it makes it worse

Can you provide some examples of what they did that was "disguised better" or "worse"?

The fact is that they didn't do anything comparable to this BS fake news propaganda. You can support the Cons if you want but you have to own their **** if you support them.

And the Liberals did plenty of actual things badly, you don't have to pretend that they did things they didn't actually do.

I dislike Doug Ford a lot, but I despised Wynne. I have yet to hear those Conservative ads and only have seen them in this thread(which I didn't bother to watch). I think it's ridiculous and idiotic and a waste, I hope they roghtfully get called out for it and it stops. I will probably vote Liberal in the next provincial election if Ford is running again.
I remember those dumb hydro, energy, and other partisan junk ads being all over the radio(maybe tv, unsure I blocked them out) in the 6 months leading up to the election. They weren't Liberal ads, rather province of Ontario ads for the Liberal government.

We could have had Hudak or Tory running this province and the world would be so much better

But they weren't going to eat my face!

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/...ilot-1.4769853

They’re not ads. They’re propaganda clips dressed up as legitimate news, being run for the express purpose of driving up distrust in the actual news media. This is Doug Ford saying not to trust the media, only to trust what comes out of his office, exactly as Trump is doing. And he’s using the provincial treasury to do it!

On a related topic, anyone catch Minister of FYIGM Lisa MacLeod saying reports of her admitting the Cons broke their promise on basic income “fake news” (using those actual words)? This after, you know, BEING ON CAMERA ADMITTING SHE BROKE A PROMISE? It’s happening here.

Yeah, I was kind of terrified to see our government trotting out the Fake News mantra in response to accurate reporting of facts.

Ontarians are dumb.

https://twitter.com/TelcoAg/status/1025535930747236352

He and his QB make quite a pair

Mental health funding cut, social assistance increases slashed, basic income pilot eliminated, but fear not:



Priorities!

Mr. Smith,

I am a former brewery owner (sold earlier this year) and a constituent of yours in Prince Edward County.

It’s important for me to write to express how appalled I am at your buck a beer announcement this morning. I watched you stand next to Doug Ford as he lied about Liberal red tape and how they are responsible for increasing the pricing of beer as a result of increasing the price floor of beer. This is incorrect and disingenuous. No brewer in this province currently retails beer at the existing price floor so it obviously was not an impediment to lower pricing. No brewer was asking you to lower the price floor because they wanted to sell their beer for less. It’s a non-issue that you have fabricated.

Barley Days, for instance, currently sells its cheapest beer for $2.50 — a price that is fair given the costs that go into making beer. They are not selling it for the current price floor although they most certainly could. Even the famous Laker beer that used to be $1 a beer is retailing for $1.60 — above the current price floor.

What I am most qualified to talk about is the cost of beer and the cost of running a small business brewing beer. It is simply not possible for a business the size of Barley Days to sell beer at $1 without losing significant amounts of money on each can. Here are the direct costs at their scale to make the most basic beer possible:

25 cents packaging (can)
24 cents provincial beer tax
18 cents labour
12 cents HST
11 cents malt
3 cents hops
3 cents water
3 cents federal excise tax
2 cents yeast
2 cents water treatment + cleaning chemicals

Total: $1.03 for a 355ml can. This doesn’t include any profit margin for the brewery. It doesn’t include any non-direct operational costs like rent, administrative salaries, utilities to make the beer and keep the lights on, debt servicing because a brewery is extremely capital intensive, etc. It doesn’t include any retail margin for LCBO.

So when you see a brewery like Barley Days pricing at $2.50 a can, it is because that’s actually what it costs a business like this to make even passable product and pay their employees. I have to wonder if there is some sort of back room deal with friends at Johnvince Foods, who own Barley Days, to convince them to sell their product below cost.

When I ran my brewery we never made beer anywhere close to this cheap because of all the corners that need to be cut were unacceptable to us. It was difficult for us to make beer anywhere less than $2 per short can in costs alone.

At the Molson scale, their costs in taxes alone (provincial beer, HST, federal excise) are $0.60 per short can. Even at their scale it is next to impossible to sell that beer for $0.40 in ingredient, operational, labour costs and profit margin.

So this is why I am disgusted by your “challenge” to breweries across this province who employ thousands of Ontarians to suck it up and eat the cost to provide below-cost $1 beer to consumers. How insulting this is to the breweries across this province who employ so many people in a rapidly growing industry. Will your government be challenging other industries to lower the price of their products to consumers? Will you be "challenging" Galen Weston to lower the price of bread?

Mr Smith, I believe the “incentives” you are offering to brewers through the LCBO in exchange for them to sell product below cost is anti-competitive and illegal under the Competition Act and Liquor Control Act. It distorts the market and will only serve to devalue the product of brewers who price fairly in an open market and do not choose to participate in your challenge because it does not make business sense.

You are also “challenging” brewers to eat their margins at a time when their costs are going up significantly as a result of steel and aluminium tariffs which will impact the costs of equipment and aluminium cans. You couldn’t be more tone deaf on this subject.

If you were serious about lowering the price of beer you would be immediately announcing lower provincial beer taxes across the board. But you are not serious. This is a distraction from issues that actually matter to your constituents.

Finally, I watched you smirking as your boss dismissed concerns about the mental health impacts of buck a beer, which is especially rich considering his own brother’s descent into addiction to alcohol and crack cocaine, and his role in enabling that behaviour, not to mention Doug Ford’s past as a drug dealer.

I watched you smirk and cowardly run away as your constituents protested this proposal and wished to voice their disapproval. Shame on you.

Eric Portelance

In other Canadian politics news not Doug Ford related it seems twitter these days is a serious business when it comes to world politics.

This tweet has put Canada at odds with Saudi Arabia.


Saudi Arabia isn't happy with Canada telling them what to do and
- has frozen all trade investment with Canada
- is recalling their ambassador to Canada
- is to relocate students from Canada
- has cancelled flights to Canada

That new Saudi leader seems like a real snowflake.

The enduring mystery of Calgary's 'Vaseline Alley'

Do brewers have to sell their beer at a dollar a can?

No, it’s just the minimum price they can sell it at. No one sells beer for the higher minimum that’s in place now. It’s a meaningless stunt.

Laker beer was piss-water and not worth buying for a dollar.