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01-10-2008 , 11:41 PM

#76

manbearpig

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

McCain: "I'm going to handle these immigrants compassionately"

I can see why this guy's position is so unpopular within his party. Not deporting a soldier's wife who's MIA? Blasphemy. She needs to lineup behind our 50 ft border walll and get in line with everyone else.

McCain: I know how to secure our borders. I live in a border state, and we have the most illegal brown people coming over of anybody in the whole big wide world. So again, I know how to secure our borders.

ORLY?

01-10-2008 , 11:43 PM

#77

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Originally Posted by Bedreviter

Wonder who wins the text-poll for this debate...

Ron Paul 54%. (for those reading, that's my guess not a report)

Cody

01-10-2008 , 11:43 PM

#78

UlidEyes

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Originally Posted by manbearpig

I know how to secure our borders by securing amnesty for anyone who makes it across.

01-10-2008 , 11:43 PM

#79

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The RP answer of "We borrow from China, give it to Musharaff, blow up Iraq, etc etc" was the best answer I have seen from him in a long time.

He really got to rambling and got confused a few times tonight but that answer was spot on imo. If we would have just left it there and let it sink in instead of going on about the damn Dep of Ed it would have been so sick.

01-10-2008 , 11:44 PM

#80

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Originally Posted by DING-DONG YO

wow, loser RP. Don't let them go into any detail or anything.

Frank Luntz is such a hack.

faux news

01-10-2008 , 11:46 PM

#81

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Originally Posted by sting0209

Thompson the clear cut winner IMO...Rudy held his own...Paul lost me time and time again, the rest same old same old...

Thompson didn't do enough for me to sway my vote, but I'm mildly impressed.

I thought Thompson sounded good tonight do but did he ever really say anything? About 80% of what he said was attacking other candidates, which I really like to see them get called out on the stuff, but I dont recall him saying anything of substance.

01-10-2008 , 11:48 PM

#82

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I can't wait until Romney is 10 years older and 10 years smarter. It'll be interesting to see where he stands on the issues then.

Maybe he'll like the "cloak room" by then?

01-10-2008 , 11:49 PM

#83

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RP did do the worst in the debate tonight, although Romney was close. Thompson definitely "most improved" but I didn't think Huckabee was that bad either. McCain just drones on and on...

01-10-2008 , 11:51 PM

#84

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Originally Posted by manbearpig

Thought some of his economic/tax/spending thoughts were insightful and substantive...however all of those were early in the debate, I agree at the end he didn't finish very strongly and really didnt have much of substance other than taking shots at other candidates(however, they were new digs at other candidates and it showed life in a candidate that appeared dull and dead to me)...Missed the first ten-twenty mintues so I don't know if he got to talk about his social security plan, but it is substantive as well...

01-10-2008 , 11:53 PM

#85

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Originally Posted by manbearpig

Frank Luntz is such a hack.

faux news

It sort of makes a lasting impression when the host gives you a "what the hell are you rambling about"-comment and the other candidates and almost everyone in attendance are openly laughing at you.

01-10-2008 , 11:53 PM

#86

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Originally Posted by kidpokeher

RP did do the worst in the debate tonight, although Romney was close. Thompson definitely "most improved" but I didn't think Huckabee was that bad either. McCain just drones on and on...

I think it was pretty clear that McCain did the worst. RP didn't fair much better though.

01-10-2008 , 11:55 PM

#87

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Cmon, you have to admit, Ron Paul really stunk it up tonight. Every answer ended with, "...and we don't HAVE that kind of money, since we're fighting wars all over the world and we have to borrow $10b from China..." This guy doesn't seem to be up to task for the big stage. Up against guys like Romney (Bain CEO), Giuliani (prosecutor), Huckabee (preacher), and Thompson (lawyer), he seems way overmatched on the verbal acuity department.

No, I didn't forget about McCain.

01-10-2008 , 11:59 PM

#88

kidpokeher

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Seriously, RP needs to realize nobody cares about monetary policy or at least the ones that do already know about it.

01-11-2008 , 12:00 AM

#89

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Originally Posted by iversonian

I don't think anyone's ever said he's a great speaker. He seems angry and lost most of the time he speaks. Of course, part of that is that his message takes time to explain while "Terrorists hate us for our Mardi Gras" is pretty simple. That said, it's pretty obvious what happens to a good message in poor hands.

Cody

01-11-2008 , 12:00 AM

#90

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Paul with 35% so far, damn I was off, still doubled second place though.

Cody

01-11-2008 , 12:01 AM

#91

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Originally Posted by iversonian

Yeah, it's worth repeating over and over if you think about how dire the consequences are. Most of the questions were about the economy and foreign policy anyway. As far as articulation, I agree he is outmatched. Substance over style though.

01-11-2008 , 12:02 AM

#92

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Originally Posted by iversonian

You are completely right. Paul's message in Romney's body (maybe minus the newsletters?) would be a nearly unstoppable force. I said in a post earlier and so have many others that he rambles and stumbles and is very unpolished. While this might appeal to a small percentage of people it is one of the defining characteristics that keeps him from doing better in the polls.

And he was particularly bad with that tonight, FWIW, minus his last answer about China-Musharaff-etc.

01-11-2008 , 12:05 AM

#93

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Originally Posted by manbearpig

Huckabee's body.

Is this online yet or will it be other than YouTube bootlegs?

01-11-2008 , 12:06 AM

#94

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Did McCain at least get in his "I'll follow Bin Laden to the Gates of Hell!" line? I love that one.

01-11-2008 , 12:07 AM

#95

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Originally Posted by Dan.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you cry on TV, then you win.

Or does that only work for girls?

01-11-2008 , 12:09 AM

#96

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Another good one from tonight.

Huckabee: If you look down your barrel and it is pointed at US troops the next thing you will see is the gates of hell!!!

Hume: Umm, they pointed their guns at us and we didn't do anything. Do you support that decision?

Huckabee: ldo.

Good one Mike.

01-11-2008 , 12:11 AM

#97

manbearpig

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Also from the Huck:

Huckabee: I cut taxes 94 times in Arkansas.
Mod: Taxes in Arkansas were a few hundred million dollars more when you left.
Huck: I am for the people. Dont you understand? I deal with the goddam people.