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An Off-Topic Nonpolitical discussion of the Happiest Place On Earth, Disney World. An Off-Topic Nonpolitical discussion of the Happiest Place On Earth, Disney World.

02-18-2019 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Jman is correct in that if you know how/where to look and are willing to put in the time, you can often get good (or at least better) deals than this. Most people don't know this, however, so they go in blindly and wind up with this kind of vacation expense.

But the craziest thing to me is that, apparently, the market will bear these prices! Local news told me one day around Christmas (may have been the day after?) that Magic Kingdom was literally full to capacity and they were turning people away at the gate. Seems like if anything their prices are too low. Sucks they're pricing the middle class out, though.

Also agree with Jman that there are good restaurants on property if you know where to look. A couple I know stayed at the Beach Club last summer and I met them down there for dinner, we ate at some fantastic restaurant right inside the hotel that was first class (but pricey). I can't speak for Epcot though, in all these years I still have not been. Universal is just a better time and better value all around imho.
I wouldn't even stay in Orlando to begin with. Plenty of places in Central Florida that are within a couple hours of Disney that aren't rife with tourist prices.
02-18-2019 , 12:39 PM
Does disney still have the EXXON ride? That is the only thing I really remember from 30 years ago.
02-18-2019 , 12:43 PM
Does this forum have adult Disney fans talking about how weird adult anime fans are?
02-18-2019 , 01:18 PM
Great that the Amazon stuff was moved ... we can get back to the AOC



dammit - this thread is confusing.
02-18-2019 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
WTF that sounds miserable. I think you'd have to pay me to go there.
Disney is considered the leader in Queueing theory, especially the psychological aspects of queueing.

Literally experts in sorting people into lines.
02-18-2019 , 01:55 PM
Taking the daughter to Disneyland this spring. Send the inside tips!
02-18-2019 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Does this forum have adult Disney fans talking about how weird adult anime fans are?
People going to Disney with their kids =/= fans per se. It's the all American Experience™ where we forget Walt Disney was an atrocious ****lord.

Whereas there is a **** ton of creepy ass animes in how they depict pre-pubescent females that a lot of anime fans don't frown on.
02-18-2019 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Does this forum have adult Disney fans talking about how weird adult anime fans are?
I thought one of the more interesting details about Maria Butina was that she told a friend that her Space Mountain ride was the most fun thing ever in her life. Not sure how she feels about anime.

There's no denying Disney has wide appeal. I don't completely get it. I mean I've ridden Space Mountain but I remember the time we went and the ride was closed more clearly than the time I actually went on the ride.
02-18-2019 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
I wouldn't even stay in Orlando to begin with. Plenty of places in Central Florida that are within a couple hours of Disney that aren't rife with tourist prices.
If you do that you lose the ability to do a park in the morning, then return to your hotel during the hottest/busiest part of the day then return to the park in the evening which I think is the optimal Disney strategy with kids.
02-18-2019 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker
Does disney still have the EXXON ride? That is the only thing I really remember from 30 years ago.
I don’t think so, I’m not familiar with that one.
02-18-2019 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by True North
We went on MLK Day weekend this year and we were astounded at how bad the lines were. We went to HS on the Sunday during Extra Magic Hours, got in around 8:15 after spring out a problem with our tickets, headed for Toy Story Land...and the line for Slinky Dog Dash was 2 hours 15 minutes, 45 minutes before the park officially opened.

On the Tuesday at MK, we quit the line for Haunted Mansion around 5:00, when we joined it had snaked all the way around to the Hall of Presidents. Clock said 60 minutes but it was feeling more like 90. At one point, I checked the app for wait times and it had the wait at Seven Dwarfs Mine Train at three hours.

We chatted with several people who regularly visit on that particular weekend, all of them said they’d never seen lines that bad in over 10 years of going.
Did you use the tap/grab/modify Fastpass strategy? Waiting on standby lines is doing it wrong. Here’s a blog post that explains it better than I can. https://www.mousehacking.com/blog/di...tpass-strategy
02-18-2019 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by True North
We went on MLK Day weekend this year and we were astounded at how bad the lines were. We went to HS on the Sunday during Extra Magic Hours, got in around 8:15 after spring out a problem with our tickets, headed for Toy Story Land...and the line for Slinky Dog Dash was 2 hours 15 minutes, 45 minutes before the park officially opened.

On the Tuesday at MK, we quit the line for Haunted Mansion around 5:00, when we joined it had snaked all the way around to the Hall of Presidents. Clock said 60 minutes but it was feeling more like 90. At one point, I checked the app for wait times and it had the wait at Seven Dwarfs Mine Train at three hours.

We chatted with several people who regularly visit on that particular weekend, all of them said they’d never seen lines that bad in over 10 years of going.
Also going to morning EMH hours is a mistake IMO. That is invariably going to be the most crowded park of the day because all those EMH people stay and because so many good neighbor hotels now get you EMH access as well. You’re much better off avoiding the parks with morning EMH at all costs.
02-18-2019 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
If you do that you lose the ability to do a park in the morning, then return to your hotel during the hottest/busiest part of the day then return to the park in the evening which I think is the optimal Disney strategy with kids.
I don't know man. My family never did the full day of Disney growing up. It was 5-6 hours. Ride all the rides and GTFO. I think we once managed to do Disney and NASA in the same day.
02-18-2019 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
Did you use the tap/grab/modify Fastpass strategy? Waiting on standby lines is doing it wrong. Here’s a blog post that explains it better than I can. https://www.mousehacking.com/blog/di...tpass-strategy
Tried it, there were no extra FastPasses to be had that day. That was the only substantial line we waited in at MK, though, we had FPs for Big Thunder Mountain, Mine Train and Jungle Cruise. It was pretty disappointing to only ride anything once, though, usually we can do 4-5 trips on BTM before the lines start to build up.
02-18-2019 , 05:15 PM
About 4-5 years ago I was in Anaheim for a conference and went to Disneyland with a friend from school. She had a friend, who was local and a Disney expert, meet us and take us around the park. I guess DL isn’t was competitive as DW but it was still amazing watching someone hit that kind of efficiency with FastPass and knowing where to be when. We even got some Mickey beignets which they claimed were hard to find and only available at one place in the park. 10/10 would go again as an adult
02-18-2019 , 05:15 PM
Always always key for any theme park is get there before the park opens and be ready to storm towards the most popular ride (again, get an itinerary from Touring Plans or take the latest guide out from the library or whatever). The first 90 minutes of park openings you can often knock off a bunch of attractions with little to no wait.

Some parts of parks (like Animal Kingdom with Avatar) actually open like an hour BEFORE even the posted openings (independent of Extra Magic Hours).

This then usually repeats itself when it gets close to closing time, especially if it rains or something. Take a break during day if you need it.

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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker
Does disney still have the EXXON ride? That is the only thing I really remember from 30 years ago.
Universe of Energy, later Ellen's [DeGeneres] Energy Adventure, it had dinosaurs (cuz fossil fuels). It closed within the last 2 years and they're building a Guardians of the Galaxy attraction in the building.



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Originally Posted by fatboy8
Taking the daughter to Disneyland this spring. Send the inside tips!
Eat at Blue Bayou, indoors and overlooks part of Pirates of the Caribbean so has a nice twilight feel plus that wonderful musty water smell.

Candy Cane Inn down the block (walking distance depending on how your daughter handles that, but also free shuttles) is fine and good if you don't want to stay at one of the more expensive on-site hotels.

Don't miss Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.

Get an app like Touring Plans and follow an itinerary.

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Originally Posted by gregorio
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! THIS IS NOT THE THREAD TO TALK ABOUT AMAZON!!!111!!!!

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02-18-2019 , 06:38 PM
Agree with a previous post that Universal Orlando is elite. I can't compare it to Disney because I haven't been to Disney in over 30 years, but my family went to Universal about three years ago and it was great. It's not cheap - and I don't remember the exact cost - but it doesn't sound as bad as Disney.

We went during the summer and stayed at one of the lower-end Universal hotels (though it was still very nice). There were some rides - Spiderman and Simpsons, in particular - that we went on over and over as there was literally no line. The worst line was for Minions. It was about an hour. The Simpsons area of the park was what got my son into the show. My favorite food in the park was the Lard Lad doughnut. Five bucks, looked just like the pink frosting doughnuts on the show, and was gigantic. My kid and I shared one and at it with a knife and fork. It was one of the best doughnuts I've ever hand.

The Harry Potter world is incredible. My wife and daughter are really into Harry Potter and though I'm not, I enjoyed the movies. We went to Harry Potter world multiple days and I was genuinely a bit sad to leave.


If we go again, I'll look into all the similar tricks that have been mentioned for saving time at Disney. We didn't do anything special except line up before the park opened (I think we had that luxury because of the hotel we were at).
02-18-2019 , 06:46 PM
Can't imagine ever going anywhere but Disney now that there's tons of Star Wars and Marvel stuff. Imagine if Disney could do LOTR or Game of Thrones.

lol at Harry Potter, no offense bro
02-18-2019 , 07:12 PM
Universal seems to rely very heavily on motion sim rides that invariably make me projectile vomit. I'll take good old splash Mountain.

My wife and I went to Orlando a few years back and we went to Discovery Cove. It was awesome. Not cheap but included unlimited food and drinks for the day plus Sea World and Aquatica water park admission and free parking at all 3 parks.
02-18-2019 , 07:25 PM
Disney stuff should go in its own thread not the LC thread imo.
02-18-2019 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Universal seems to rely very heavily on motion sim rides that invariably make me projectile vomit. I'll take good old splash Mountain.

My wife and I went to Orlando a few years back and we went to Discovery Cove. It was awesome. Not cheap but included unlimited food and drinks for the day plus Sea World and Aquatica water park admission and free parking at all 3 parks.
Go to Sea World before they all close down. Especially if you got kids. It's actually really ironic but I am pretty sure a majority+ (at least a much higher % than the general population) of the modern crop of tree huggers/marine animal lovers had early formative experiences at Sea World.

The irony is strong and I do think places like Sea World need to go away (I actually think there is a semi-viable business there with them just doing research for very specific species that do well in confinement and are in need of protection but an organization like that would have to constantly fight the temptation to monetize and we may be better off just leaving that kind of thing to full time researchers.) Still, I do think we need to think about how we're gonna get the next generation of children to care about animals they likely will never see/touch except in pictures, especially the ones that don't look cute to human eyes.

The biggest predictors of species survival for the next 100 years are probably:
1. binary variable "cockroach?"
2. cuteness score
3. probably also fluffiness
02-18-2019 , 08:52 PM
This thread was created from the source thread here:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...ntent-1728788/
02-18-2019 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
The irony is strong and I do think places like Sea World need to go away (I actually think there is a semi-viable business there with them just doing research for very specific species that do well in confinement and are in need of protection but an organization like that would have to constantly fight the temptation to monetize and we may be better off just leaving that kind of thing to full time researchers.) Still, I do think we need to think about how we're gonna get the next generation of children to care about animals they likely will never see/touch except in pictures, especially the ones that don't look cute to human eyes.
I think you're describing public aquariums, basically.
02-18-2019 , 09:02 PM
Yeah. And even those probably need to go.
02-18-2019 , 09:15 PM
even if your kids have graduated from strollers, USE A STROLLER! you can rent them up front, pick them up at the entrance of each park you go in, and drop them at the exit of each park you leave. they're light, can be single or double, and have a shade cover.

even if your kids are 1-2 years beyond strollers and say they're too big for strollers, GET A STROLLER! the days are long and when your kids get tired & cranky, they'll jump at the chance to be carted around. they can calm down/recharge on the long walks, plus you can take in the sights without constantly having to corral them by hand or [shudder] carry them on your shoulders.

      
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