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10-08-2018 , 04:25 PM
If You Want Your Children To See A Coral Reef, Join The Left

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Individual authors of the report have said that the science is “telling us we need to reverse emissions trends and turn the world economy on a dime,” and the report “makes it clear: There is no way to mitigate climate change without getting rid of coal.” Carbon taxes far high than any previously proposed will be necessary to avoid catastrophe, although even with a gigantic new effort at harm mitigation there may be no hope for the world’s coral reefs.

Needless to say, at the moment we’re not just not doing this, but actually embracing a psychopathic environmental policy: the Trump Administration seems to love “coal for the sake of coal,” meaning that Donald Trump’s love of coal has nothing whatsoever to do with an assessment of its costs and benefits but exists solely because there is something “all-American” about coal and it gives him the opportunity to wear a hard hat.
that is not a bad sentence

On capitalism and the climate:

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Beware this species of conservative argument, which uses capitalism’s sociopathy as the justification for not trying to restrain capitalism’s sociopathy. If you try to regulate carbon, the costs will just be passed on to poor people and energy companies will actually release more carbon. Ebell’s entire argument throughout the op-ed is that carbon taxes “won’t work.” But why won’t they work? They won’t work because capitalist enterprises are monstrous institutions, that would rather boil the planet alive than take a financial hit. As I say, this is a common kind of argument on the libertarian right: if you try to regulate housing conditions, landlords will just pass the increased maintenance costs onto renters, or if you raise the minimum wage, employers will just fire a bunch of people and make the remaining ones work harder. In each case, the argument amounts to: capitalists will never, ever submit to measures designed to mitigate the negative impacts of their profit-seeking. Ebell doesn’t even pretend that there is a free-market way to change emissions.
10-08-2018 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
This is a great story, except... eight years of graduate school. Donna Strickland (recent Nobel Prize) apparently also took 8 years (and was never appointed a full professorship). I know that half of PhD candidates haven't finished after 6 years, but it's like it doesn't matter how good you are. Maybe Freeman Dyson is right about the system.

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https://twitter.com/stevenstrogatz/s...73429655322629
Is a world that runs on quantum computers one where an exceptionally small number of people understand how the **** any of this works?

I can't tell if this is a function of the time at which I grew up, in which this is a new/poorly understood science and someday all kids will study in school and understand it perfectly, or if computing is moving in a direction where only people who have PhDs in physics or whatever will actually understand what's happening on the inside of a computer, which seems...not ideal for society.
10-08-2018 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
This is a great story, except... eight years of graduate school. Donna Strickland (recent Nobel Prize) apparently also took 8 years (and was never appointed a full professorship). I know that half of PhD candidates haven't finished after 6 years, but it's like it doesn't matter how good you are. Maybe Freeman Dyson is right about the system.


https://twitter.com/stevenstrogatz/s...73429655322629
Strickland said she isn't a full professor because she never filled out the required paperwork. The distinction between associate professor and full professor is generally meaningless as far as prestige, pay, whatever. If you have grant money you can make a nice salary regardless. And, uh, she definitely had/has grant money. In USA#1, not sure about Canada. But again, she could move to a top five research school in USA#1 with a named professorship tomorrow if she wanted and that was probably also true five years ago.
10-08-2018 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
This is a great story, except... eight years of graduate school. Donna Strickland (recent Nobel Prize) apparently also took 8 years (and was never appointed a full professorship). I know that half of PhD candidates haven't finished after 6 years, but it's like it doesn't matter how good you are. Maybe Freeman Dyson is right about the system.


https://twitter.com/stevenstrogatz/s...73429655322629
Awesome story.
10-08-2018 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Is a world that runs on quantum computers one where an exceptionally small number of people understand how the **** any of this works?

I can't tell if this is a function of the time at which I grew up, in which this is a new/poorly understood science and someday all kids will study in school and understand it perfectly, or if computing is moving in a direction where only people who have PhDs in physics or whatever will actually understand what's happening on the inside of a computer, which seems...not ideal for society.
I think this has been true for a long time. A real understanding requires both a deep and wide understanding of overlapping areas of physics, mathematics and various engineering disciplines. I don't know anything about quantum computers, but it does seem to add another level (ha).
10-08-2018 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
If You Want Your Children To See A Coral Reef, Join The Left



that is not a bad sentence

On capitalism and the climate:
God we're really going to just completely ruin this planet. We need to play the GOP game and fear monger conservatives that climate change is going to lead to mass migration to the US from the middle east & africa. It's probably the only thing that would work.
10-08-2018 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Strickland said she isn't a full professor because she never filled out the required paperwork. The distinction between associate professor and full professor is generally meaningless as far as prestige, pay, whatever. If you have grant money you can make a nice salary regardless. And, uh, she definitely had/has grant money. In USA#1, not sure about Canada. But again, she could move to a top five research school in USA#1 with a named professorship tomorrow if she wanted and that was probably also true five years ago.
Yeah I heard her say it was because she was lazy but I think she's being PC. Imo it reflects poorly on her university that they didn't press to promote her. Similarly, it's a failure of her PhD supervisor not to have seen to it she graduated in a timely manner. I'm assuming a lot in these two cases but it fits with my experience as well as the stats.
10-08-2018 , 05:56 PM
How many people understand how an internal combustion engine works?
Or a CD player? Or even a record player?
10-08-2018 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Is a world that runs on quantum computers one where an exceptionally small number of people understand how the **** any of this works?

I can't tell if this is a function of the time at which I grew up, in which this is a new/poorly understood science and someday all kids will study in school and understand it perfectly, or if computing is moving in a direction where only people who have PhDs in physics or whatever will actually understand what's happening on the inside of a computer, which seems...not ideal for society.
You think people have any kind of a clue how conventional computing works? Like, ask your average slob how many transistors are in a cell phone and marvel at how many orders of magnitude they're off by. Ask em what a transistor even is.
10-08-2018 , 06:01 PM
Man, the fact that brilliant people are spending eight years earning peanuts as grad students while solving incredibly difficult and important science problems is not a feel-good story to me. This is a bull**** system.
10-08-2018 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Greenwald supporting dictators around the world until he has to suffer the consequences and then it's too late. Right wing in a nutshell.
I'd take just a little bit of pleasure in Bolsonaro winning. Glenn's been playing down fascism developing in America, thus mocking those who are victims of it. Now there's a good chance that he gets to know what it's really like. It's really prime trolling territory if he wins.
10-08-2018 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
Yeah I heard her say it was because she was lazy but I think she's being PC. Imo it reflects poorly on her university that they didn't press to promote her. Similarly, it's a failure of her PhD supervisor not to have seen to it she graduated in a timely manner. I'm assuming a lot in these two cases but it fits with my experience as well as the stats.
SHE WON THE NOBEL PRIZE FOR HER THESIS WORK!!!! Any marks against her adviser for taking a couple of years too long for her getting her PhD done have to mitigated by, uh, winning the Nobel Prize for her thesis. And her taking as long as she did might have had more to do with her than him. She might have wanted to finish her work (Nobel Prize winning work) before leaving even though she surely had enough to justify a PhD years earlier.

And sure, it could be sexism but the fact that she wasn't hosed like the pulsar girl or the DNA lady suggests not.
10-08-2018 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
I'd take just a little bit of pleasure in Bolsonaro winning. Glenn's been playing down fascism developing in America, thus mocking those who are victims of it. Now there's a good chance that he gets to know what it's really like. It's really prime trolling territory if he wins.
cheering on fascism to own the Glenn
10-08-2018 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
How many people understand how an internal combustion engine works?
Or a CD player? Or even a record player?
Or a turn signal. shoot.
10-08-2018 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
How many people understand how an internal combustion engine works?
The gas goes in, the exhaust comes out. You can't explain that!
10-08-2018 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
SHE WON THE NOBEL PRIZE FOR HER THESIS WORK!!!! Any marks against her adviser for taking a couple of years too long for her getting her PhD done have to mitigated by, uh, winning the Nobel Prize for her thesis. And her taking as long as she did might have had more to do with her than him. She might have wanted to finish her work (Nobel Prize winning work) before leaving even though she surely had enough to justify a PhD years earlier.

And sure, it could be sexism but the fact that she wasn't hosed like the pulsar girl or the DNA lady suggests not.
Are you just trying to keep in form or something? I never said anything about sexism. Of course it wouldn't be at all surprising. What would be surprising is if her advisor knew in her 3rd or 4th year she was destined to win the Nobel 30+ years later so better keep her around as a grad student rather than do what would probably be best for her.

Eta my main point is what Trolley said, if it's not obvious.
10-08-2018 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
You think people have any kind of a clue how conventional computing works? Like, ask your average slob how many transistors are in a cell phone and marvel at how many orders of magnitude they're off by. Ask em what a transistor even is.
Relative to quantum computing, yes, definitely. I got a pretty good idea of the inner workings of a computer by the end of my freshman year of college and that was in computer science, which is more about the theory of programming and less about actual physical hardware.

It's still the case that not a lot of people study it, but that information is at least accessible and fundamentally understandable in a way that quantum computing seems, to me, like it is not.
10-08-2018 , 06:50 PM
This woman could probably cash out a ton tomorrow or a half-ton in the past if she had wanted to. She seems to like academia and solving tough theoretical problems as opposed to all the BS you have to go through when the man is paying you big $$.

One one of my photo trips there was a guy who had a PhD in chemistry and was completely bored and disillusioned with his private industry job. I imagine this is pretty common?
10-08-2018 , 07:04 PM


Message sent to the rest of them, don't you DARE go against dear leader trump.
10-08-2018 , 07:08 PM
Punishing Murkowski will become a big priority.
10-08-2018 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Relative to quantum computing, yes, definitely. I got a pretty good idea of the inner workings of a computer by the end of my freshman year of college and that was in computer science, which is more about the theory of programming and less about actual physical hardware.

It's still the case that not a lot of people study it, but that information is at least accessible and fundamentally understandable in a way that quantum computing seems, to me, like it is not.
It's deep down workings will just get abstracted away into some form of machine language just like with current CPUs and then people will start writing higher level languages for it so it can achieve it's potential and start being combined into Beowulf clusters.
10-08-2018 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich


Message sent to the rest of them, don't you DARE go against dear leader trump.
The Dems should reach out to her quietly about switching parties. You know if the Dems tried to punish Manchin for voting yes on Kavanaugh, that's exactly what the GOP would do.
10-08-2018 , 09:22 PM
She won a write-in campaign FFS. She should tell them to **** off.
10-08-2018 , 09:36 PM


If ya'll remember North Carolina Republicans tried to money wrench this race by eliminating primaries and putting judges' party affiliation on the ballot. The goal was for Democrats to have multiple candidates to split the vote while the incumbent Republican collects all the R votes. Democrats then judo'ed it by having a previous D voter apply to run as a R hopefully spliting the R vote. The NC legislature tried to do backies on the changes so that they could boot the split candidate but the courts said they couldn't do it after the filing deadline.

Now the D is in the lead and the late comer pseudo R that's really a D is in second place with the incumbent R in third
10-08-2018 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Relative to quantum computing, yes, definitely. I got a pretty good idea of the inner workings of a computer by the end of my freshman year of college and that was in computer science, which is more about the theory of programming and less about actual physical hardware.

It's still the case that not a lot of people study it, but that information is at least accessible and fundamentally understandable in a way that quantum computing seems, to me, like it is not.
Again, IDK from quantum computing, but some knowledge of quantum mechanics is already required to understand the solid state physics of diode/transistor operation and flash memory/SSDs. Also hard disk operation.

Anyway, this topic brings to mind a great Asimov (very) short story:

The Feeling of Power

      
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