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October LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**

View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of October?

Jefferson Beleaguered Sessions III

4 11.11%

John Kelly

2 5.56%

Brett Kavanaugh

12 33.33%

Wilbur Ross

1 2.78%

Ben Carson

0 0%

Rudy Giuliani

1 2.78%

Sarah Huckabee Sanders

0 0%

Kellyanne Conway

0 0%

Rod Rosenstein

14 38.89%

write-in

2 5.56%

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10-03-2018 , 07:18 PM

#101

Trolly McTrollson

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“censorship and censoriousness?” Are you ****ing kidding with me, Bari.

10-03-2018 , 09:01 PM

#102

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

The last time Anthony Aiello spoke to his stepdaughter, he took homemade pizza and biscotti to her house in San Jose, Calif., for a brief visit. Mr. Aiello, 90, told investigators that she then walked him to the door and handed him two roses in gratitude.
But an unnoticed observer in the house later revealed that their encounter ended in murder, a police report said.

Five days afterward, Mr. Aiello’s stepdaughter, Karen Navarra, 67, was discovered by a co-worker in her house with fatal lacerations on her head and neck. She had been wearing a Fitbit fitness tracker, which investigators said showed that her heart rate had spiked significantly around 3:20 p.m. on Sept. 8, when Mr. Aiello was there.

Then it recorded her heart rate slowing rapidly, and stopping at 3:28 p.m., about five minutes before Mr. Aiello left the house, the report said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/03/u...imes&smtyp=cur

10-03-2018 , 09:24 PM

#103

Jiggymike

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

I mean I get it, people can only progress as far at one time as they are able, but it's not inspiring when someone reconciles their Christian faith with their homosexuality, it's sad. It's Stockholm Syndrome. This is 2018, nobody in first world nations has a problem with homosexuality anymore except religious people. The story is presented as inspiration but it is in fact a tragedy that he feels it necessary to argue with these morons anymore.

Yeah it’s like how the media gushes over stories about how people donated their paid leave to a colleague who was being treated for cancer. Employers could just give more paid leave and our taxes could just pay for healthcare, then we wouldn’t need heartwarming bull**** stories and we’d get to keep our leave!

10-03-2018 , 10:28 PM

#104

2/325Falcon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StimAbuser

I was just in line at the grocery store when 3 old white ladies got behind me with a cart packed with stuff. They were all 70+ and looked pretty well off. This is in CA 8 where a dem didn't even make it on to the ballot for the house.

Normally I'd help them load their cart here but I realized its like 90% chance they're deplorables so I said **** it. Store was busy so nobody came to help them and towards the end they were struggling and one of them shot me a couple dirty looks.

This is a turd move, bro.

10-03-2018 , 10:54 PM

#105

Trolly McTrollson

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Good news for the space exploration dorks:

10-03-2018 , 11:50 PM

#106

campfirewest

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StimAbuser

10-04-2018 , 04:06 AM

#107

jalfrezi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon

This is a turd move, bro.

You're right. He should've asked them their opinions on Trump first, then left them to their own devices.

10-04-2018 , 09:38 AM

#108

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dth123451

Can’t wait

If you don't want to read the book

10-04-2018 , 09:46 AM

#109

Namath12

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Get down with the Maybot.

This is how genocides begin

10-04-2018 , 09:52 AM

#110

chezlaw

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Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 46,852

You may enjoy her latest effort at the tory party conference.

https://scroll.in/video/896937/watch...rty-conference

10-04-2018 , 09:53 AM

#111

Namath12

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lol I just can’t even

10-04-2018 , 09:53 AM

#112

Trolly McTrollson

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cp running with the idea that Kushner is a Mossad secret agent.

10-04-2018 , 10:02 AM

#113

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Good news for the space exploration dorks:

Did you see NASA recently released a free book about the history of deep space probes? Seems like it might be your kind of thing.

10-04-2018 , 10:05 AM

#114

Trolly McTrollson

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Didn’t hear about that, thanks for the tip!

10-04-2018 , 12:01 PM

#115

uDevil

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I don't see this as all that sad. At least he had a way to pay for health care.

https://twitter.com/APWestRegion/sta...32131063726080

10-04-2018 , 12:06 PM

#116

TrollyWantACracker

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 4,184

Who on Earth would pay $765,000 for a Nobel Prize?

Hell, I found a Nobel in Economics on the subway this morning.

10-04-2018 , 01:35 PM

#117

DeuceKicker

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Obv some Nobel's are worth more than others. Apparently the Peace price is nearly worthless.

10-04-2018 , 02:43 PM

#118

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker

Who on Earth would pay $765,000 for a Nobel Prize?

Hell, I found a Nobel in Economics on the subway this morning.

Are we sure Leon actually earned his or did he buy it off someone?

10-04-2018 , 02:47 PM

#119

All-In Flynn

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Foolish investment, supply increases steadily year after year, yet demand is rigid.

10-04-2018 , 02:52 PM

#120

TrollyWantACracker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by All-In Flynn

Foolish investment, supply increases steadily year after year, yet demand is rigid.

Damn, front-runner for next year's prize right here.

10-04-2018 , 03:36 PM

#121

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker

Who on Earth would pay $765,000 for a Nobel Prize?

Hell, I found a Nobel in Economics on the subway this morning.

Nobel prize is ~$1M, sounds like a bargain.

10-04-2018 , 03:46 PM

#122

TrollyWantACracker

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Just looked this up - apparently the Nobel medallion has about 10k in gold in it. And sometimes the winner lucks out and finds an original copy of the Declaration of Independence hidden in the back .

10-04-2018 , 04:04 PM

#123

Trolly McTrollson

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True story: Niels Bohr dissolved his Nobel to keep the Nazis from getting it. He recovered the gold after the war.

10-04-2018 , 04:18 PM

#124

suzzer99

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The comments on this hackernews piece about Chinese chip that compromised the US supply chain are fascinating. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18138328

Quote:

lmilcin 9 hours ago [-]

I have worked in card payment industry. We would be getting products from China with added boards to beam credit card information. This wasn't state-sponsored attack. Devices were modified while on production line (most likely by bribed employees) as once they were closed they would have anti-tampering mechanism activated so that later it would not be possible to open the device without setting the tamper flag.
Once this was noticed we started weighing the terminals because we could not open the devices (once opened they become useless).

They have learned of this so they started scraping non-essential plastic from inside the device to offset the weight of the added board.

We have ended up measuring angular momentum on a special fixture. There are very expensive laboratory tables to measure angular momentum. I have created a fixture where the device could be placed in two separate positions. The theory is that if the weight and all possible angular momentums match then the devices have to be identical. We could not measure all possible angular momentums but it was possible to measure one or two that would not be known to the attacker.

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lmilcin 4 hours ago [-]

There were other considerations like the fact we were actually buing it from large reputable company and what happened was that some employees were doing it with no involvement of the company.

The fact is, doing any kind of hardware production in China, you have to be aware Chineese have different value system and you would not be suited doing any business if you throw tantrum at any sign of apparent dishonesty (assuming the company was involved which they could not have been as they have been the ones damaged the most).

If the company does screw you (like replacing components for something cheaper) they typically will not be thinking they are doing anything wrong. They are just testing if you notice and if you do not they will say it makes no difference for you but saves them costs.

The way to work is then verify everything and politely point it out. If you notice they will correct apparent mistake.

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I understand the indignation etc etc. And the suggestion to not use these kind of companies anymore.
And that sounds really reasonable, until you realize that pretty much all contract manufacturers in the Far East will source cheaper or off-spec components than those on the BOM if they can get away with it.

One of my friends supplied small widgets for a well known consumer electronics maker. He routinely gets widgets returned to him as defect for inspection, which then inevitably turn out to be clones of his widgets.

The only way to make sure that your product rolls of the product line as expected, is to have people on-site with continuous inspection (and pray that they're not the cousin of somebody who's on the other side.)

If you want the benefit of dirt cheap manufacturing, you need to have a system in place to deal with these practices.

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I used to work on the server-side stuff for telecom devices. We designed hardware that went into customer homes, but only downloaded the (encrypted) firmware upon home activation as otherwise the Chinese manufacturers would have ripped us off and sold them to telecom companies without our cut.

So, realising they could copy our hardware, but didn't have our software, they responded by trying to hack my servers, multiple times, from the same IP they sent manufacturing data from. A quiet word with their management would stop it, and it'd start again a couple of days later.

These people have no shame, and if we are going to go for lowest cost at all times it is what manufacturers should expect to happen.

Quote:

It's not rewarding bad behavior when you take it into account in the deal. Moralization is useless when you do business with different cultures. When you notice something what would be out of ordinary in your culture, you estimate the cost and find out how locals solve it. Different cultures have different kinks and people living there know to adjust to them. It can be fun to figure out how other cultures function.

From a naive Finnish perspective you could see American business culture as dishonest. People lie all the time and promise things that are false and you need massive amount of legalese or they **** you over. When they say something, you can't trust it as much as you can trust a Finn (or Swede). American way is to lie to your face in pre-negotiation but then be truthful to the legally binding agreement. Germans or Belgians are more truthful beforehand and they stick to deals better without legal enforcement looming over them, but require more detailed written deals than Finns. Who is right? Should we punish Americans for their behavior or adopt their culture?

Of course not. You must understand that that the level of acceptable exaggeration, overpromise and bull**** and trickery is strictly culture dependent and relative. Someone is dishonest if they "lie this amount above average" in their cultural context. After you make an adjustment, you know how to get the truth.

Chinese manufacturers have the capability to stick to standards, take responsibility and deliver high quality stuff. It's just more dependent on personal relationship. Just placing an order has less trust as default. Either you develop "quanxi" with your suppliers or work trough some third party that understands both worlds. Third party understands what you need and knows how to get it from the Chinese suppliers because they have a relationship.

Chinese pay the cost that comes with their business culture. They can't network as fast as you can in open western cultures with more default trust between strangers.

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This is just how low trust societies function for hundreds if not thousands of years. This is also why families tend to be much stronger in these places. The American idea of a strong family is different from what I'm describing, since it just centers on immediate family. My definition of strong family bonds, implies both closeness and dependency not just on your immediate family, but even on your distant cousins on both sides. It's close if not the same to how Mediterranean and Hispanic cultures view families. I guess you can call it a clan mentality. I'm now wary of countries where families are really strong ie clans. It's not always the case, but it tends to mean the rule of law is weak and corruption is crazy.

When you can't even trust that food is real, and when you have to bribe even low level provincial government employees (can you imagine needing to bribe DMW workers or even police?) - what else is an average person to do except to treat it as the norm in order to survive? Unless you're an elite, the only other option is to leave, and not everyone has that choice. Very little is considered wrong over there, aside from criticizing the powers that be; as long as it helps your clan. It doesn't help when Western companies and governments look the other way, as we see in past news stories and even the comments here.

I'm not condoning the behavior; just explaining.

10-04-2018 , 04:23 PM

#125

suzzer99

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Not often you get a hearty LOL from Bloomberg Business Week:

Quote:

Elemental servers sold for as much as $100,000 each, at profit margins of as high as 70 percent, according to a former adviser to the company. Two of Elemental’s biggest early clients were the Mormon church, which used the technology to beam sermons to congregations around the world, and the adult film industry, which did not.

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