Suzzer, surely you don't read adios' post to say that the tax code should be graspable by any 5 year old. That's clearly clearly clearly not what adios was saying. At all.

And characterizing adios is saying that makes it sound like you think the tax code is simple, and there are just some stupid republicans out there (Cain, adios, et al.) who have their undies all bunched up because its not SO simple that a 5 year old can understand it. Which is also pretty unfair. The tax code is complex. It's complex as ****. I take classes on it and I still don't understand it particularly well. There's a reason anyone with any significant amount of assets hires somebody to do their tax returns.

Great, you can be right in hypothetical world then. Even for you, that's one lazy ass strawman.

It's also hurt a lot of middle class and lower middle class people. The danger of the government intervening through tax credits is that no matter how absurd or unfair the tax preference, people will accept it a lot easier than they would an equivalent spending program.

Actually, not at all. The benefit is priced in to housing prices, so buyers pay a bit more while renters (more likely the poorer you are) subsidize the whole scam. And of course the amount of subsidy you receive is larger the more expensive your house is, so joe blow lower middle class, even if he's getting the deduction, is often a net loser.

I.R.S. Watchdog Calls for Tax Code Overhaul

When the IRS ombudsman calls the tax code overly complex I think it's fair to say that it's overly complex. . suzzer isn't particularly worried about the facts or understanding a point of view that he doesn't agree with.

I've stated this many on this forum, since the USA has a diverse set of income earners taxing income tends to make for a complex tax code. This also makes the tax code a breeding ground for special interest groups that lobby Congress to get favorable tax treatment for their particular circumstances. Anyone see a possibility of corruption with this situation?

Also called picking winners and losers == central economic planning.

We killed al-Awlaki's 16 year old son (born in Denver, US citizen) with a freedom bomb in Yemen. USA! USA! USA!

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Yes the benefit is definitely reflected in housing prices.

Didn't you see The Godfather II? When he grows, he'll grow up strong. And then come for revenge. And then he'll throw all the pieces of his gun down chimneys like he was afraid of 1920s CSI.

What are people's thoughts on starting a political chain email thread? As I mentioned earlier I get a ton of them from my dad and other random family members and for the most part they are pretty comical and they're sure to become more outrageous as we get closer to the election. Seems like it could have potential.

Revenues by Source (Percent of GDP)


Average Federal Tax Rates, by Income Quintile, 1979 to 2007 (Percent)


Looks like lowest income quintile has seen largest percentage federal tax decrease since 79. The source of this is this CBO blog post:

Some Context for Thinking About Deficit Reduction: Federal Revenues

Um can you see where if more people in the bottom quintile were even poorer - IE had zero income - that the average federal tax rate of the whole quintile would drop?

Show me the tax rate based on a specific income. Not the average across a quintile - that could mean a lot of things.

I'm thinking we need to bring back a game of Sheep to Politics. I'm thinking one themed around the GOP primary. Are people interested? Run it soon, or wait until closer to when primaries and caucuses start going?

lulz http://www.yubanet.com/opinions/Andy...p#.Tp9Na3Iewrs

I'm not an animal rights type of guy, but I do feel like assault rifling the crap out of these animals is pretty lame.

I'm not sure if this is actually NSFW or not, but I need to be careful these days

~NSFW~

wtf? Does Ohio not have tranquilizer guns? Why the hell would you just kill them all?

What is sheep?

Some combination of:
-People don't feel like waiting for tranq's and zoo assistance
-The same reason most of this country believes that "terrorists hate us for our freedom" (they are motivated by <irrational> fear)

Are those quotes real?

Yeah even the Bachmann one.

Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks setting up his own PAC: http://www.wolf-pac.com/

I'm not entirely sure if trying to get money out of politics by putting money into politics is a great idea. But whatever, I like the name.

wtf, no way. That looks like something out of the left-wing version of a chain e-mail. I assumed it had to be a joke.

They were afraid a person might get hurt. And the death of dozens of exotic animals > injuries to a few Midwesterners, I guess. I can see some logistical problems in trying to sedate and capture these beasts while there's a ****ton of others running around at the same time.

That being said, I like wild animals more than I do people, so I would have been cool if they sedated them, even at the cost of a few yokels getting mauled nipped, but I think I'm in the minority.



And the real reason I came here was to post this:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41...reveal-754947/

This. No way they said that imo.