Why are there no call from this forum to audit all former American poker players and for the government to collect back taxes. I am sure that would help to pay for your universal health care and free college and free housing and guaranteed job.

I always found it odd that a site dedicated to poker was so left leaning. I mean in poker you take money from people dumber than you in the most ruthless way possible.

Taxes are a pretty ruthless form of taking money from others imo

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Some businesses failed. Some downsized. Even banks. Lots of them. Feds stepped before it spiraled.

You all use the internet. Smart phones. Computers. Facebook. All brought to you by corporations and banks. Homes. Cars. Food. Clothes. Advertisements. Movies. Television. All corporations backed by banks.

You don't want to work for a big company then work for a small one
You want to start your own company? Friends and family and sba loans run out quickly. Find investors that want to take risk. The investors want a chance to make money too. Oops corpetation is born. Need a bridge loan to pay for new equipment go to an investment bank. Need to finance your textile imports go to a merchants bank. Want to get a small bridge loan go to a commercial bank.

You don't want to work for a corp or start a corp. Go sit in the street. Hope for government handouts. Hope for change but don't offer solutions. Governments are financed by taxes ( you better have a productive economy) and bonds (you better have a productive economy or investors wont buy them).

Greece's government can't afford to pay off the debt that it incurred to pay for all of their social programs. Neither can Portugal. You don't want corps. But you think investors are going to continue to buy bonds to finance our government, military, social programs and infrastructure. Keep dreaming.

Go sit in the street. Bring it all down. Nice solution.

Oh and I think the tea party is just as ludicrous.

This site is left leaning?

Oh thank god we've got them! Without them, I wouldn't be able to access credit to expand my business (which is so easy to come by) and create all of the jobs that I, as a Job Creator©, have created over the course of the past ten years so that now we're only looking at 4% unemployment!

Thanks for the video. Why is it Newtown is right down the road but nobody from that neighborhood showed? I see a few drum circle Siesta Key dudes, a sprinkle of LongBoat Key folks, A smidgen of Lakewood Ranch people, and then some random donks. Turnout looks meh at best. Disappointing TSTL.

Could have used some 14th St W street walkers imo

You sure do like to inject a lot of meaning to other's posts so you can post your rants. False dichotomies ftw though amirite??

Some of the protestors were paid.

Song about Tony Balony, definitely worth listening to: http://reporters.majority.fm/post/11...oritys-week-in (it starts at 3 minutes if you're not interested in the introduction).

Wow, you know this town better than I do and I've lived here all my life. It's freaking me out.

What school did you go to? I went to RHS class of 06.

The most ruthless way possible?

So not only more ruthless than muggings, pirates, armed robbery homicides, home invasions, etc. But also more ruthless than everything imaginable like aliens destroying millions of civilizations to use them as scrap resources?

I am not comparing these people to nazi's or anything like that as far as their politics go, just demonstrating how a dictator can take over. but to claim that GA's will prevent a bunch of pissed off people from being lead astray. lol.

"Hitler and his fellow members of the National Socialist (Nazi) Party, who were determined to bring down the republic and establish dictatorial rule in Germany, did everything they could to create chaos in the streets, including initiating political violence and murder. The situation got so bad that martial law was proclaimed in Berlin.
Even though Hitler had badly lost the presidential election, he was drawing ever-larger crowds during the congressional election. As Shirer points out,
In one day, July 27, he spoke to 60,000 persons in Brandenburg, to nearly as many in Potsdam, and that evening to 120,000 massed in the giant Grunewald Stadium in Berlin while outside an additional 100,000 heard his voice by loudspeaker."




My point to all this before it blows up into some **** show. Get your message and your solution laid out before you take it to the streets. Be ruthless in getting that message out, unless you want to be co-opted or marginalized.

I'm a big fan of loaning someone money for a house, collecting money from them for as long as possible, then jacking up their interest to rates they can't afford, and having them evicted by the same police that their taxes paid for.

the protestors should really be occupying the FED. who bailed out everyone? who created the incentives to make shady loans? who created the artificial boom with lower interest rates?

im not saying you cant blame greedy people. but lets not forget the main culprit here. wall street didnt just become greedy in the 90s, they always have been. the FED however did begin to have greater influence around that time and ever since.

We don't do large groups like that, by design. There is very real practice and theory behind this. We can't be cooped, no worries there. Google affinity groups / spokes model paradigm. Large scale protests involving crowds near that size have been organized completely leaderless. We've been doing it for over 100 years. I know that you can't imagine this right now... but this is all been proven to work long before any of us were born.

You should be asking why it works. There really is no point in arguing if it works, since it does. And this is another thing the MSM will prate on about "no message". The message is we're mad as hell, and we're going to try to do something about it.

And we're going to work at it. We're going exercise our rights to assemble. That's what were doing right now. And once we are assembled and have created a safe alternative space, we are going to exercise our rights to speak. We are going to talk it all out, over and over again. We are going to have solidarity and talk power to truth about all our grievances. And then, if consensus is reached, we will act... take direct action, that's were the fun starts.

How do people expect us to all have reached consensus on these terribly complex issues, when none of us had ever met before? That's why we're doing in the camp-outs. To meet and talk it out. But before we can do this, the first thing is to establish a community space, where it can happen. Here in San Diego, because of a planning f***-up, we haven't even started our discussion, we've spent 100% of our time on logistics.

The real purpose is this (1) community building, (2) networking and (3) practice IMO. The point is this... thousands and thousands of people all over the country (and the world if we don't drop the ball) are going to be experienced and networked direct actionists. So next time they try to pull some crap like start a war... we don't need to start from scratch, we can just shut it down.

Well figure out what city the "THE FED" is in, go to their GA, and make that proposal. If we get critical mass, I'm sure a ton of people would love to do a Seattle style blockade around the "THE FED"'s offices. Direct action is DIY, why say what you think "the protesters" should do, like we are leaders or something? Organize and do it yourself.

good luck guys!

Has this actually happened, who buys a house signs a mortgage and then has their interest rates jacked up? I mean I know there are adjustable mortgages based on LIBOR or what ever but with these I would think you'd be in good shape considering the interest rates right now. I'm interested to hear more about this.

That thing you hippies do where one person speaks and the others repeat what is said is the most annoying thing ever.

Also using words like solidarity just exposes you all as the communists you are. Might want to keep that on the down low.

I'm still not clear exactly what this movement wants. Saying "we want corporations out of politics" is not clear enough. What specifically do you want done?

Also, why is it so evil to be rich? Did Steve Jobs really have no more of a right to be a billionaire than the average joe?

Is this movement arguing for socialism? If so, they should just come out and say that. At least things would be clearer, and then we could get some intelligent debate underway. Ranting in the street and not even knowing what you're whining about is kind of childish, no?

the point is, the people are misled. thanks to the media and politicians. cant really blame the people, most are ignorant. well i guess you can blame them for that

I'd certainly like to know what the goals are too, I have no issue what so ever with people taking to the streets, I'm just not sure what you're/they're fighting for.

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