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10-06-2018 , 08:28 PM

#26

ScreaminAsian

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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace

NYT lost all credibility already in the days of WMD. What kind of idiot pays to read it now?

still 50x more credible than the toilet paper you read

10-07-2018 , 05:57 AM

#27

bacalaopeace

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

still 50x more credible than the toilet paper you read

Not sure I see the difference. Both are covered in ****.

10-07-2018 , 10:40 AM

#28

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Originally Posted by Riverman

"look he's lying but he does it so well you have to hand it to him"

10-08-2018 , 12:13 AM

#29

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10-08-2018 , 01:13 AM

#30

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Lol cheques right from the casino to Donny

10-08-2018 , 03:36 PM

#31

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this is absolute garbage

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/u...mer-metoo.html

10-08-2018 , 03:46 PM

#32

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I thought the bump would be for the NYT doing the unexpected - visiting a Mississippi diner to FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN AMERICA, through the lens of two waitresses there (one black, one white)

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Ms. Walls’s verdict on the rally [Trump's, where he mocked Dr. Ford]: “It was pretty awesome.” And on the #MeToo movement: “Any woman can say anything. You know as well as I do, they bring it on themselves, to get up the ladder, to destroy somebody they don’t care for. I think it’s something that should be kept personal. Sure there’s a lot of bad guys in this world doing a lot of things they shouldn’t have been.”

Thanks for reminding us that deplorables are still deplorable, I would never have guessed

Bonus points for this particular deplorable:

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“PTSD, c’mon, get real,” she said. “Maybe she needs to talk to some servicemen that really understand PTSD. It’s not that I don’t understand rape, big time. But if it affects you that bad, which it did my daughter, you go to counseling, whatever you need to do. My daughter’s gone on just fine with her life.”

Her ****ing daughter is a rape victim and she's like "lol Ford get on with your life already"

10-08-2018 , 05:51 PM

#33

TwitchySeal

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Their quick pizza dough sucks (and isn't that quick). Better off buying a frozen pizza.

BUMP

10-08-2018 , 09:00 PM

#34

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All the news that's fit to print apparently does not include extensive communication between a Russian bank and the Trump campaign:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...trump-campaign

Does, of course, include a 73rd story on HER EMAILS

10-09-2018 , 03:08 PM

#35

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This WaPo reporting on a rape case against NYPD officers seems pretty terrible

The article focuses on this question:

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While the issue of consent is at the heart of most sexual assault and rape cases, the allegations against the New York police officers raise a unique question: Can someone who is under arrest and in police custody consent to sexual contact with their arresting officer?

Despite the power police hold in such situations, laws in nearly three dozen states have allowed police officers to argue that such sexual contact can be consensual and that their standing as an arresting officer is essentially a non-factor in such allegations. It’s an argument that has been used to combat complaints like those Chambers brought forward at a time when New York didn’t specifically bar police from engaging in consensual sexual contact with subjects of investigations and suspects in crimes.

Consent can be the difference between a rape conviction and an acquittal at trial, and blah blah blah blah

It goes on and on like this. But this question seems...not relevant to the facts of this specific case?

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The officers sent the young men on their way, but they detained Chambers, who police say had marijuana and illegal prescription pills in her purse, according to court documents. Martins and Hall then handcuffed Chambers and locked her in the back of a black Dodge Caravan, and Hall slid into the driver’s seat and pulled onto the street. The court documents also allege that Martins, sitting in the rear with Chambers, said that he and his partner were “freaks” and that he asked what she was willing to do to avoid arrest.

According to Chambers’s account, the van stopped, and the detectives took turns engaging in sexual acts with her. She claimed that both forced her to perform oral sex and that Martins raped her. They then uncuffed Chambers and let her out near the 60th Precinct, a local police station, without charging her with a crime.

Chambers immediately alleged that she had been sexually assaulted. Martins and Hall — whose DNA was found on Chambers, according to court documents — were charged with felony sex crimes about a month later, on Oct. 30, 2017.

Oh, that's the allegation? THEN WHAT THE **** IS THE REST OF THIS ARTICLE ABOUT?

10-09-2018 , 04:04 PM

#36

PocketInfinities

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Has anyone listened to Maggie Haberman's interview with Koppelman?

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/sla...man/e/56520357

10-09-2018 , 04:07 PM

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Zero chance I’m listening to that.

10-09-2018 , 04:10 PM

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I heard her interview with Preet and it sounded like a completely different person from the one who writes her tweets and articles

10-12-2018 , 03:29 PM

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While the Washington Post appears, on the whole, to be significantly better than the New York Times despite employing Megan McArdle - the Kavanaugh hearings have caused me to notice another one of their opinion writers, former GWB speechwriter Marc A. Thiessen, who's had some staggering takes in the last couple weeks (these are the headlines and sub-headlines of his articles):

Look who’s shattering presidential norms now: With a highly partisan speech, Barack Obama demeans the presidency rather than the current president.

Trump is protecting our country from a sham of an international court: The International Criminal Court is a hindrance to democratic change.

Chaos or not, Trump is racking up a record of foreign policy success: Many worried he would usher in a new age of American isolationism. That hasn’t happened.

How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?: The current information about the allegation against Brett Kavanaugh should not be enough to derail his nomination.

The anatomy of a smear: Despite the alleged victim’s admitted uncertainty and the failure of a single witness to back her story, the New Yorker published an uncorroborated account.

Brett Kavanaugh fights back: The Senate must reject this campaign of character assassination.

Rachel Mitchell expertly eviscerates the case against Kavanaugh: If Ford’s memory is the only evidence against Brett Kavanaugh, then inconsistencies matter.

Ford’s case against Kavanaugh continues to erode: Let’s hope that due process will be honored when the Senate votes on the Supreme Court

Update: "Trump could be the most honest president in modern history"

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Donald Trump may be remembered as the most honest president in modern American history.

Don’t get me wrong, Trump lies all the time. He said that he “enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history” (actually they are the eighth largest) and that “our economy is the strongest it’s ever been in the history of our country” (which may one day be true, but not yet). In part, it’s a New York thing — everything is the biggest and the best.

But when it comes to the real barometer of presidential truthfulness — keeping his promises — Trump is a paragon of honesty. For better or worse, since taking office Trump has done exactly what he promised he would.

This ****ing guy

10-28-2018 , 03:37 PM

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10-28-2018 , 04:34 PM

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NYT gives their treatment to Kate Brown. Basically, "Does she suck? Maybe? Here's some uninformed voters who say, 'Maybe?'" Also throw in some jabs at Kitzhabers star power because, um, let's get back to Kate Brown, "what's the deal? I heard Buehler is 'pragmatic,' which means smart, and what's with Kate's mousy glasses and how they hang on her nose?" This is simply a bad article.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/28/u...elections.html

10-29-2018 , 01:44 PM

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It’s pathological

10-29-2018 , 06:19 PM

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People have labeled Bolsonaro with all these mean adjectives, but are any of them accurate? Who knows!

10-31-2018 , 02:10 PM

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Thank god WaPo hired "libertarian" Megan McArdle to write independent-minded takes like "Trump seems to enjoy dictator cosplay. But he’s no fascist."

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Some journalists are greatly alarmed, but I just can’t muster much fear of persecution. The president struggles to control a handful of his senior staff; strong-arming the vast federal bureaucracy into carrying out any purges he fancies looks entirely beyond his capacities.

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This is where conservative readers will be getting angry. “There you go again! You mainstream media types are always calling us Nazis! Such nonsense!”

As it happens, I agree: It is nonsense to argue this way, and the left-wing folks who do it ought to knock it off.

Trump’s rhetoric about immigrants and others appalls me. But that’s not in the same category as establishing a fascist dictatorship. Nor is tightening our immigration policy very much like invading other countries and sending millions of citizens to extermination camps. It’s offensive lunacy to suggest that these things are somehow inextricably linked.

And it’s not much more reasonable to claim a direct causal link between Trump’s rhetoric and the monstrous synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh, as is now happening. Jews are not among the groups Trump is known for slandering, and America has a pernicious history of anti-Semitic violence long pre-dating Trump. Sadly, there were deadly attacks at Jewish centers under both Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

"Trump is incompetent so this is fine, shut up and stop overreacting libs"

10-31-2018 , 02:21 PM

#45

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through my facepalming I almost missed the pièce de résistance

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So, no, friends, I’m not arguing that Trump is Hitler, or even Hitler Lite. I’m entirely confident that even if he wanted to trash the Constitution and impose a racist dictatorship, neither the institutions of the United States nor the people of the United States would permit it.

Our institutions will save us, says this faildaughter who once wrote a tweet thread about how anxious her poverty made her feel when she had to move back to her parents' Manhattan condo ("a bit of luck", she calls it, to have that option available!) in her 20s when working for her criminal father wasn't going to be a long-term sustainable career

10-31-2018 , 02:31 PM

#46

tomdemaine

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The most hated chapo reading series contributor ever.

10-31-2018 , 03:24 PM

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Wow, super unfair for her to blame Hitler for the anti-Semitism that was endemic in Germany long before he gave any speeches.

10-31-2018 , 03:35 PM

#48

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Found this takedown pretty satisfying

https://theoutline.com/post/2303/meg...=1&zi=srwigtcl

10-31-2018 , 03:41 PM

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In 2007, she moved to The Atlantic, where her very first column, titled “Don’t Panic,” downplayed fears of the recession that was to commence five months later.

Easy rescission? That’s ikestoys signature move!

10-31-2018 , 03:58 PM

#50

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Thank god WaPo hired "libertarian" Megan McArdle to write independent-minded takes like "Trump seems to enjoy dictator cosplay. But he’s no fascist."

"Trump is incompetent so this is fine, shut up and stop overreacting libs"

McArdle is bad but this is basically the Smart Centrist™ take on this, standard Dog on Fire This is Fine meme stuff. You'll see it from bobman like yesterday or whatever: oh, Trump is bad, very bad, and sure he has no respect for the rule of law and is super racist, but don't worry, he's pretty inept so you're an alarmist and overreacting, why that won't help at all, better consider milquetoast centrism.

Remember McArdle types are self-aware people who voted straight ticket GOP for the last 10-20 years, over objections of the left, who often pointed out the GOP was marching directly to fascism. It was always met with "calm down" and "no you're the lunatic fringe."

It's a form of Trump Adjacent hedging. These people won't fire up the gas chambers but push comes to shove, binary choice, they're siding with fascists over the left and they're preemptively building the same kind of both-sides case file to tut-tut that the victims merely should have calmed down and all their agitating really threw the whole system into chaos, shame.

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