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Nevada Rancher Hilarity: The Tragic Death of Y'All Qaeda's Tarp Man Nevada Rancher Hilarity: The Tragic Death of Y'All Qaeda's Tarp Man

01-27-2016 , 01:08 AM
Fly, as much as I hate to profile people by religious beliefs, most of the actors involved are Mormon. I tend to believe they are pretty honest folks, most of the time.
01-27-2016 , 01:08 AM
This seems like a good occasion to have the cops record video.
01-27-2016 , 01:10 AM
Yeah I somehow doubt that a guy who repeatedly said he would rather die than go to jail became a docile little pussycat when he and his boys were getting arrested. Still, if it somehow did turn into a brazen execution then yes you obviously want the agent charged. It would probably be an uphill climb given the reasonable expectation this dude was going to start ****, but we'll see I guess.
01-27-2016 , 01:12 AM
Thread title should be changed to something like "Y'All Qaeda and friends" or something imo
01-27-2016 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
Fly, as much as I hate to profile people by religious beliefs, most of the actors involved are Mormon. I tend to believe they are pretty honest folks, most of the time.
Mormons out West have long, long running beef with the feds for a variety of reasons. If you think their religion puts them beyond disseminating propaganda for their cause, then I don't know what to tell you. Just floating this out there right now is going to be enough to convince anyone with any sympathies to them that it was an execution barring serious evidence otherwise.

Hell, someone just posted this to his youtube account saying that he was on his knees with hands up and they need more people and arms because they're going to be raided at any time:

01-27-2016 , 01:15 AM
In case anybody has forgotten from late last year, this is Michele Fiore.

01-27-2016 , 01:22 AM
I'm not buying the "hands up, don't shoot" rhetoric as the most likely way that this might have gone down. Prepared to wait for more information though.
01-27-2016 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Thread title should be changed to something like "Y'All Qaeda and friends minus one" or something imo
fyp

Or, tragic death of the Nevada rancher hilarity
01-27-2016 , 01:24 AM
Noze that could well be, they have also been known to dress like Native Americans and kill off whole wagon trains of settlers.

This is just what I'm hearing. I thought it might be of interest to the folks here. I can't confirm the accuracy of any of it. Worst thing I've heard is that since the Feds have drawn first blood, the people left in the "compound" are going to make a stand.
01-27-2016 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Noze
Mormons out West have long, long running beef with the feds for a variety of reasons. If you think their religion puts them beyond disseminating propaganda for their cause, then I don't know what to tell you. Just floating this out there right now is going to be enough to convince anyone with any sympathies to them that it was an execution barring serious evidence otherwise.

Hell, someone just posted this to his youtube account saying that he was on his knees with hands up and they need more people and arms because they're going to be raided at any time:

That guy doesn't know what happened. He says, "They say he was on his knees with hands up..."

He's just repeating from the tweet.
01-27-2016 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
fyp

Or, tragic death of the Nevada rancher hilarity
I think this will do.
01-27-2016 , 01:27 AM
Holy crap, LaVoy had 11 kids. He took the easy way out.
01-27-2016 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
Holy crap, LaVoy had 11 kids. He took the easy way out.
Mormons, dude.
01-27-2016 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Noze
Mormons out West have long, long running beef with the feds for a variety of reasons. If you think their religion puts them beyond disseminating propaganda for their cause, then I don't know what to tell you. Just floating this out there right now is going to be enough to convince anyone with any sympathies to them that it was an execution barring serious evidence otherwise.

Hell, someone just posted this to his youtube account saying that he was on his knees with hands up and they need more people and arms because they're going to be raided at any time:

The comments on that video are sooo butthurt.
01-27-2016 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
Holy crap, LaVoy had 11 kids. He took the easy way out.
11 foster kids. And had is the operative word.

Militant Says Foster Children Were Pulled From His Home
01-27-2016 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Mormons, dude.
Hated big gubmint, hated condoms, hated pulling out.


... ah foster kids? Now I feel as bad as Seth Meyers.
01-27-2016 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
They must have been on a snacks run!
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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies
They were supposed to show up at a town hall thing and the FBI nabbed them on the way.
Rule #15 of hostile takeovers: Don't just go for a drive.

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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Thread title should be changed to something like "Y'All Qaeda and friends" or something imo
+1 y'all Qaeda.

Seriously, these folks are ****ing lunatics.
01-27-2016 , 02:03 AM
If we can't believe a second hand Facebook account of an implausible self serving coversation between a violent felon and a complete lunatic about a member of a violent militia surrendering peacefully to government forces than what can we believe? That's what the "reports" say and it's certainly more reliable than the video we had with all those other no angel victims. They're Mormons after all!
01-27-2016 , 02:19 AM
When you have groups like inner city black youths and white western ranchers all this po'ed at the government that they feel is steamrolling them and they can't get relief in the courts or the political spectrum, I would say we have a huge problem at the moment.

Right or wrong, they have grievances that arent being addressed. This is their way of drawing attention to it to the public at large. Kind of like looting a CVS. And I didn't get the purpose of that before, but I'm starting to understand. You have to work with what you have.
01-27-2016 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
If we can't believe a second hand Facebook account of an implausible self serving coversation between a violent felon and a complete lunatic about a member of a violent militia surrendering peacefully to government forces than what can we believe? That's what the "reports" say and it's certainly more reliable than the video we had with all those other no angel victims. They're Mormons after all!
Priceless. But a stunning summation of why many of 2+2ers find P and PU a toxic cesspool.

I'm just telling you what the feedback I'm getting, and I would guess I'm a little less removed than you are. Is the information I'm getting incorrect? Could well be, I can't vet something ongoing. But I do know some of the players, you?

But I'll leave again and you can go back to your circle jerk, that is the point, right?
01-27-2016 , 03:43 AM
Hmm, potential that one of America's trigger-happy LE agents unnecessarily opened up on dudes who didn't actually pose an imminent threat versus the chance violent militia idiots finally worked up the courage to shoot a cop.

Tough to say where to place our bets here. I mean that sincerely.
01-27-2016 , 03:53 AM
Why choose? My money is on aggressive gun-brandishing by y'all qaeda AND overenthusiastic law enforcement.
01-27-2016 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
When you have groups like inner city black youths and white western ranchers all this po'ed at the government that they feel is steamrolling them and they can't get relief in the courts or the political spectrum, I would say we have a huge problem at the moment.

Right or wrong, they have grievances that arent being addressed.
Seems like a category error though. Inner city blacks insofar as they are angry are pretty clearly angry at alot more than 'government' and certainly not in alot of or really any of the ways those white western ranch dudes are mad at the government. I guess if we just say all anger is anger and government exists then sure, yeah, I guess it's the same thing.
01-27-2016 , 04:07 AM
I'm gonna feel more comfortable about the justification when the reports come out that the guy known to be armed and said he wouldn't be taken alive was reaching for his waistband than when unarmed black kids supposedly do the same.
01-27-2016 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
Fly, as much as I hate to profile people by religious beliefs, most of the actors involved are Mormon. I tend to believe they are pretty honest folks, most of the time.
Maybe we can profile them by other things than being Mormon?

Like how the guy shot dead when being placed under arrest said they would never take him alive and he would rather die than go to jail?

I think you lose the default pretty honest folks label when you use guns to take over federal property and terrorise a town who demands you leave. At what ****ing point do you call these guys thugs given your leaps to judgement when black unarmed kids are shot?

Weren't you the "follow instructions and you won't get hurt no matter if you think they are unreasonable" guy about Eric Garner?

      
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