splitters!

This would actually be one of the better pranks I've heard of in some time, I have to say. I knew your crazy was good for something Dids. Well, maybe I didn't know but clearly it is.

What is the range on those things? I mean if we really wanted to get them we would need to dress it up a bit ala the flying lawn mower but instead just make it into a bigger drone looking thing. They would probably shoot it down but also be too afraid to go near it after wards. Plus they could be further scared by putting scary looking things crudely attached to the inside.

I might die of laughter if I could see that go down.

CP weighs in:

lol wtf is going on over there??

light moderation

This * infinity, get these ******s the **** out. I believe that the peaceful resolution is always best to pursue, but this is the kinda **** that makes me wish in the moment that the government would just roll in guns blazing.

damn.

such a good point.

and who is CP?

I watched most of the Oathkeeper's video attempt to "set the record straight" on the brewing hostilities between the various factions on the ranch. It was actually more like a close up look into the nuttiness of the whole ranch. Here are some highlights and a few of my comments. Not everything in quotes is exact.


- Oathkeepers referred to other militia as "a ticking time bomb of nutbags runnin amok". Speaker then seamlessly transitions into discussion of "intel regarding potential missile strikes".

This perhaps speaks to the level on which they are thinking. It would be somewhat sophisticated for them to count on Obama's fear of political fallout from a bloody mess as their trump card or bulwark against superior numbers and firepower. But if that's what they thought then they wouldn't think Obama would drone them along the women and children, leaving a scene of carnage rival only by scenes from Red Dawn, right? So then they thought they would, what? actually outgun the federal government? Apparently they are that dumb.


- Oathkeepers accused the supposedly even nuttier militia people of "seeing imaginary people out in the desert and things like that"

I'm more worried about the "things like that" part but the other is scary too.


- They refuted apparent charges of cowardice by pointing to Vietnam acquired shrapnel in one of their chest's: "He's not a dam coward, and this shrapnel proves it!"

I think if he knew the shrapnel was coming and moved into it they would have a point but that's a tough sell- fast moving stuff, that shrapnel. Then again would that just instead prove stupidity for not getting out of the way?


- "I was trying to explain to them the mission to fall back to the hotel".

This is an exact quote.


- An old man in their ranks was taken down by a member of a rival militia in a running forearm shove to his chest.

This is not too surprising from a group that openly claimed to use women and children as human shields. Yeah, take down the frail geriatric and the rest will fall right into line. Throughout the video other oathkeepers wished they had been there when it happened. I wish that too.


- Oathkeepers tout their superiority to other militias by pointing to the former military statuses among their ranks and discrediting those statuses in other groups. "You aint no ranger!"

The irony here is pretty much naked. You cling to credibility by claiming military ranks issued by the very same federal government which you are aligned against and claim has no credibility. Wow.


- They alleged that, at some point in the dispute over drone strike rumors, a "mountain militia" guy put his hand on his gun in it's holster and said to an oathkeeper "I dare you to draw. Draw mother****er and I'm going to kill you". Not to be outdone, in another incident an oathkeeper "had to draw on somebody". The oathkeeper was "this close (pinched thumb and forefinger) to having to shoot that dingaling" who had allegedly gone to his truck and grabbed his AR to escalate the confrontation

I can see why the government has all but shipped in federal picnic tables to encourage these people to hang out together for awhile.


- Haggling over equipment, who brought what, what was a loan and what was a gift etc, is justified by provisional concerns for "the next hot spot" since "this is a fight for the whole west".

Grand delusions in the flesh. Ok pal you've corralled some federal cattle for the time being. What are you going to do next, risk your life over some federal chicken farm regulations? Try to segregate a school with your AR's and see how that works out for you.

You know, have serious people given consideration to letting militias and your other assorted sundry right-wing libertarian groups just have their way in like all of Nevada outside of Clark County and just see how it goes? Like if the federal government was like "you know what, we're moving out of the Nevada desert, entirely, you guys just have it, in fact, if you'd like to move it, we'll create a True White Patriot Homestead Act and give you a stipend to move there."

I think this is worth exploring.

At some point the BLM should have just airdropped a few kegs of beer into the militia camp and just let them sort out who was the manliest on their own.

lol They would never go for it. This would instantly be labeled a federal concentration area. Then again maybe the lure of utopia would override the competing paranoia.

I think Obama's cautious nature has happened upon a winning strategy for dealing with these types of situations/groups. I don't know how much the strategy could be coerced or expanded though.

I grew rather fond of Reno in my time there. They can't have Washoe County.

Well, actually they can have most of it. Especially Sun Valley. But not Reno.

I got people in Reno man.

But they can take ALL of ****ing Arizona.

I live in Arizona (not for long) and I can't really argue this. They probably wouldn't want Phoenix anyway, which has become redeemable over the last five or so years, and there's just tons of useless open space in this state.

The government has to have some undercovers in some of these group, right?

I've only heard left wing group infiltrations exposed but that is probably a function of what news I get. It figures that they would infiltrate these groups as well since they are far more dangerous. It would be easier too for obvious reasons so yeah, they would pretty much have to be in there or getting information from those inside unwittingly giving it.

Easily. They are so ****ing stupid you could send in Paulie Shore instead of Donnie Brasco.

You don't need undercover agents. Informants work just fine, just as long as they're paid in silver.

They definitely get infiltrated:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article.../patriot_games

Well that's a level of entrapment I don't think I've imagined before. That's a rather clumsily constructed name, just like the generic cobbling together that you would expect from the FBI. Like their analogous attempt to infiltrate the gangs of L.A. would be called the Bad Black Mofos. And the lead agent's alias was David Rossi? Yeah, pick a Jewish sounding name to be the leader of the racist antisemitic group. Nice cover story too. Why go for believable when you can pose as an utter outlier, a high risk high success men-of-action cover story in a general movement that is high on rhetoric, super low on action, and gets busted every time they try to do anything.

No arrests sounds about right.

Are any of the *******s who pointed guns at federal agents in jail?

They were all white, and thus not really a threat.

Black child with a supersoaker tho? Kill on sight.

David is obviously a name some Jews have, but Rossi doesn't sound Jewish at all.

Not sure if Jewish but she's definitely a whore.

Haha....that was the first thing I thought of as well.