Hmm. I think I'll try to say this as plainly as I can, it's a nice weekend day and I'm going to go enjoy it:

I think most normal people consider the important questions of the Civil War answered and settled. Anyone who still wants to have 'discourse' on that topic probably has some severe character flaws. And yes, they're probably like really contemptible character flaws worthy of derision, scorn, and mocking. Sorry that gives you a sad but that's life chief.

Cool story about Gary Johnson, surprisingly Gary Johnson doesn't spend all his time talking about the Civil War and writing newsletters about fleet footed black criminals, which is probably why he's much less popular than Ron Paul on the libertarian right for reasons I'll leave the rest of you to 'discourse' about.

I can't think of anything I've ever said that is much worse than defending slavery.

Of course isn't the goal to say I'm better than some guy on the internet, but I'm comfortable saying I'm superior morally to someone who is defending owning another human being in any way.

NO CHANCE I can find a thread where H_F goes off the deep end about how much better he is than a bunch of pussy Politard posters and loling at them rather than having a serious discussion. NO WAY, NO HOW.

Happy, it just so happens that there are a handful of libertarian and republican-leaning regs here who somehow manage to avoid being called racist. How do you suppose they pull that off? Magic?

Or maybe it's because, you know, they don't say or defend racist ****?

Fly as always not following along. You are the worst at it, by the way. You just lump your opponents with whatever smear-by-association you can come up with at the time. Oh you said something that's sort of like something a racist said 200 years ago! You must be racist! It gets old.

This is the kind of **** I'm talking about:

It's cool, though. I'm starting to understand how it works around here. Next time I interact with anybody, I'll just state that they want to continue locking up drug users and ruining their lives and ignore anything they say to the contrary.

Hint: this isn't about TC, so you can stop dreaming up your "LOL DEFENDING RACISTS" post.

LOL I called a white supremacist IN THIS THREAD for saying that people were also happy in life when they were racking up huge credit card bills and buying houses they couldn't afford. Because, you know, I'm really pushing the race there.

Trying to play the game by your rules, boss. IIRC I got banned for that trolling too. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Just because you forgot about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Okay now you're superior morally to TC. Now what? You just wait until he says something, anything at all, and then scream out YOU LOVE SLAVERY! Game, set, match. Flawless victory.

Yes, you did. So yeah, you're pearl clutching about "Why can't we all just have serious discussions all the time?" is pretty hollow.

But the last part doesn't matter here. If you think libertarians have ANY good ideas, you're a white supremacist who "defends McCain/Ryans plan to have the poor sweep the floor."

H_F- It actually is about TC? That's what we were discussing. wiper asked about him, people answered. It's ****ing bizarre that answering his question has given you a sad, oh wait, you throw this same temper tantrum CONSTANTLY.

It's not a smear-by-association to mock Ron Paul for **** RON PAUL SAID, FFS.

And see, no, it won't work like like. Because when you say "you're racist for your support of the drug war," I'll be like, "no I don't support the drug war, it's a terrible idea".

What I won't say is "actually while maybe some people think the drug war is a bad idea today, at the time keeping the Negro from using the demon marijuana to get at white women was the standard belief, and also really it's black people's fault for getting high all the time, the drug war isn't even about drugs it was about taxes, your teachers all lied to you let me show you these Mises links about cracking down on the bums, etc."

Yes the Mike Rice college basketball incident is basically the same as calling people racist IN EVERY THREAD to completely shut down discourse.

At least there's WW.

But when I specifically say "John McCain is a piece of **** who should never be taken seriously", it's perfectly fine to continue talking about how I love John McCain and am defending his plans to turn 3rd graders into second class citizens. Just ignore whatever is actually posted and you can twist it into some sort of racial BS. Just like now bringing up Ron Paul for no reason. You just can't help yourself.

lol. No, we don't shut down discourse by talking about racism. Talking about the racism is the discourse.

If you only have a race card, everything looks like racism I guess.

Are you confusing McCain with Gingrich?

Hey, is it safe to work down here?
Of course.
What's the canary for?
Just for some nice bird sounds, don't worry about it.

Yes. It's hard to keep my GOP pieces of **** straight

Yeah man, every single thread in which we are discussing some right wing nut job taking aim at government officials, RACISM JUST KEEPS POPPING UP! Why do liberals keep talking about the racism in all these neo-confederates?

Did you miss the article punctuated by "Why do all these homosexuals keep sucking my cock?"

These people don't have legitimate ideas worth discussing. There's nothing substantial we're shutting down by calling them racist. They are racists, and their ideas are motivated by racism. They deserve to be marginalized.

Who would have thought that racism would be brought up when someone defends slavery? Who would have thought that racism would be brought up when the right wing's current darling says that blacks might be better off as slaves? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

I know, Omar. It's terrible, isn't it? Can't we just have a civil conversation about the ways of the Negro without those liberals calling us racist?

What's stunning about the libertarians who "ask questions" about slavery is that the whole movement is supposed to be a movement of freedom and how important it is, and yet they don't seem to get the very basic concept that it is far better, freedom wise, to NOT be a slave.

The conclusion that "maybe slaves were better off" is the kind of warped utilitarian thinking that they mock and deride in people on the left. So, one wonders, how can these "freedom experts" get it so wrong on the issue of slavery?

Because, and I'm sure this is likely to provoke a fair amount of denial, the primary freedom that many self-professed libertarians value above all is PROPERTY, even at the expense of rights of others that they take less seriously.

Yeah, when you own someone they are your property to do with as you please and the evil government better not take them away from you! FREEDOM!

Influential libertarians like Rothbard had tons of ideas that would be considered racist by modern standards (not that surprising given when many of them were born) and correctly thought that putting into their politics would attract more followers.....dumb people on the internet who likely don't really believe in alot of the racist nonsense end up parroting and "just asking questions" because they they lack the abilities to separate the racist stuff out.