Was mainly referring to suzzer's quote of:

I did say "might have", not that he did have some.

I think CP is a little deflated that Hannity/Fox have abandoned Bundy so quickly for his remarks. Thread is losing its steam.

Looks like conservatives have hit upon Dvault's idea!

Conservative Pundit Dana Loesch: All Bundy Needed Was Some Media Training!


I'm trying to troll them, but my heart's not in it.

Yeah, there's some momentum picking up for "MSM took this out of context/made **** up to make sure to discredit the whole libertarian movement because Bundy was gaining so much momentum". Of course the comments are on tape, but whose splitting hairs here.

MSM intentionally set out to destroy libertarian movement by giving them coverage.

The SHOCKING UNEDITED FOOTAGE is pretty funny. The NYT quotes are exactly as he said them, but he adds his thoughts on "Spanish people crossing the border".

He's somewhat complimentary of their work ethic and family structures, so obviously NOT RACIST and the whole thing is a huge character smear by MSM.

Ex-Illinois Republican Congressman and noted deadbeat Dad Joe Walsh rushed down to the ranch to support his fellow patriots...



... and now, having returned home and apparently snorted a mountain of blow, says Bundy is not racist, he's just asking questions about Black America...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukph...ature=youtu.be

The Emancipation Proclamation: A positive for African Americans? WE REPORT YOU DECIDE

Not racist just worrying out loud. Nice.

Just asking questions!

We should do an end of year awards show.

Nothing is topping "They didnt get no more freedom" said a white person about black people referencing the end of slavery, its a shoe in for 'most racist thing said by a Republican hero' award.

THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT: Why Most People Think It Was Good For Black People

"Don't Call Them 'The Negros': The History of Words Meaning Things"

I've been giggling all day over this.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

THE LIFE AND TIMES OF LEE ATWATER: Expressing Your Views On Race In Code

Just going to throw this policy suggestions out there: Give all the state owned land to black people.

Like, you're all giving TomCollins way too much benefit of the doubt here. You're acting like he's pulling a pvn-style "ah man we's only had to say them racist things cause you tricked us into talking about them when we was pontificating 'bout other stuff" bull**** argument, but even that grants Tom the artifice that he's some objective observer who is just disappointed to discover that his fellow traveler in liberty ONCE AGAIN happens to be a huge ****ing racist. But that's not the situation here at all:

TomCollins, in this very forum, has posted upbraiding foolish libs for overrating the positive benefits of emancipation.

Bundy's problem activity here isn't that he started spewing vile neo-confederate white supremacy, it's that he forgot that **** is for private noncommercial use only and spewed it while cameras were rolling. Tom, don't you dare think you're better than Bundy. You ARE Cliven Bundy, you're just self-aware enough not to say "Negro" in public.

The idea that the welfare state makes African Americans worse off through ???? (a mechanism that poor white people are somehow immune to!) is conventional ****ing wisdom among the right-wing populist fringe. It's how you explain 90% of blacks voting against you when you are desperately pretending that anti-black racism is a myth.

There has never been a better time for fly to descend on chiefsplanet. Maybe go post there during your next tempban?

You guys could always send some CP stalwarts over here, you know.

No. They'll just get owned and leave, a la the dozens of ******s who quit during the last two presidential election cycles. Borodog, anyone?

If there's one thing internet libertarians hate more than anything else, it is being challenged on their idiotic views. There's a reason they end up jerking each other off at sites like ChiefsPlanet.

Don't Touch That!
Distancing Strategies in Political Risk Management by Bill Clinton, forward by Sister Souljah

Charlie Brown and the Football:
You, Words Having Anything to do with Race, and the Media by George Allen, forward by S.R. Sidarth (a.k.a macaca)

That's the incredible thing here. It's not like some internet leftists goaded the right into taking up Bundy as the new Tea Party Idol. They did it themselves! Willingly!

I think there's alot to be said about the libertarian right and the "why do these neo confederates keep ending up on my Christmas card list?" phenomenon but that aside, I think the actual, somewhat interesting thing in this is how exposed the GOP is letting themselves get. I'll quote something in a moment, but this gets to the heart of the "Glenn Beck is showing more political acumen then the Republican Party" meme floating around here too.

Anyway, quote Joe Scarborough:

In the grand scheme, this is like, one bad day amongst many kinda like it for the GOP, where yet again one another of their folk heros turns out to be some racist creep.

When I was coming of age, say 10-15 years ago, the GOP was this super highly organized political death machine, like a totally robust, top to bottom machine with really tight discipline that absolutely crushed the Democrats in most of these battles. It was the Democrats that had some vague associated clownshow acts, like Ward Churchill or something, which the GOP and their allied media would uncover and then flog them for weeks on end, and it's not like any actual Democrat knew or had any idea who these people were, but Democrats would twist and turn and do everything to disavow everything and the GOP would just sit on the sidelines veritably laughing their asses off at how they made the Democrats squirm day after day.

Now? Now, it's like, it's the GOP in the same position, but it's completely self inflicted. It's not like the actual Democratic Party is any good at this, they have to be brought along by the leftist internet community.

But the GOP, maaaaaan, I mean, Scarborough is 100% accurate, why is the collective party machinery, from a top tier Presidential candidate like Rand Paul all the way down to Hannity and Senator Heller, are taking their political lots with like George Zimmerman and some dude who is blatantly violating the law for decades? Once upon a time there were adults in the room to control the John Birch Society from taking over and setting the terms. And now it's just almost criminal how risky and exposed the GOP is making themselves.

It's kind of astounding because this is still the party of big business and lots of elites are still sailing on the Good Ship GOP, there's still billions of hard earned dollars being funneled into the GOP from powerful people, and it's criminal how ****ed up and terrible the whole party is becoming.

Like they were one itchy trigger finger on some fringe lunatics from having like, really bad PR problems on their hands. For what, exactly?

And I don't mean to be glib about violent idiots and how they manifest as some dumb political problem but it's true. The GOP honestly just branded themselves on this guy. I mean it's crystal clear no one bothered vetting this freakshow in the slightest way before racing to join him in his battle against Obama's BLM Gestapo, but just on first blush, this dude was such a clear red flag Glenn Beck stayed clear. But not like, Fox News, Hannity, Rand Paul, Rick Perry, whatever really bothered to slow down at all. I'm just a little shocked, although I'm not sure why, but I'm a little shocked powerful, rich people who donate their hard earned money and time to the GOP, want to see it successful, want to see it win, sit around and tolerate their leadership sticking their stamp of approval on a posse of complete looney tunes pointing automatic weapons at bureaucrats led by a scofflaw thumbing his nose at the law for two decades.

I mean for all the GOPers and their followers preemptively celebrating their upcoming likely big victories in November, like a bunch of leaders on your side in the party and in the media machine went out to the Las Vegas desert, took all your chips, and put them on some racist crazy people heavily armed and pointing their guns at some BLM flackeys on national TV and bet they won't do it, all so like, I have no idea, Rand Paul and Sean Hannity can continue long-conning America's angry white brigades. Was that risk worth it? We saw today how that's easily going to burn you in the end, but I mean that whole cast of characters from Paul to Hannity to Heller will recover, but as I said, they got lucky the worst thing Bundy ended up doing (I mean besides like violently threatening people) was say mean things about black people. It's not hard to envision much worse outcomes where these kinds of plays just absolutely sink the party for a cycle or two.

Just criminally negligent political brand management, you couldn't possibly have found a more obvious cartoon clown show character to get behind, and the GOP not only didn't run away, they ran fast toward him.

I tried. No interest. I also told them some 2p2ers might come over to CP, but the 2p2ers were asked to please not just troll, to only come over if they planned to engage in legitimate discussion.

So of course the first poster who comes over is Trolly McTrollerson.